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To be clear: These signs were all outside the radioactive areas, right? (definitely interested, count me in)
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Mar 14, 2018 02:36
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I really should have taken a Rad-Con Control Point placard when I left my last job. If there are any left I'll take a trefoil.
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Mar 14, 2018 03:23
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Hremsfeld posted:To be clear: These signs were all outside the radioactive areas, right? (definitely interested, count me in) Count me in only if the signs are neutron-activated.
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Mar 14, 2018 03:56
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I'm super down, farfromtomorrow on the googlemails
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Mar 14, 2018 08:11
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Asproigerosis posted:if anyone wants some free radioactive material signs with trefoil, I can hook you up. We've closed 4 sites and the radiopharmacy loves sending them over and over as stocking stuffers. Ooh, that'd be fun.
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Mar 14, 2018 10:02
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Also interested.
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Mar 14, 2018 10:48
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Platystemon posted:Count me in only if the signs are neutron-activated. Well they definitely contain neutrons, is that enough?
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Mar 14, 2018 14:01
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cakesmith handyman posted:Well they definitely contain neutrons, is that enough? as long as they contain a few extra neutrons yeah
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Mar 14, 2018 21:34
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cakesmith handyman posted:Well they definitely contain neutrons, is that enough? As long as they have too many neutrons and are spitting some out, yeah. Gimme some that are spitting positrons, too.
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Mar 15, 2018 02:38
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Icon Of Sin posted:Nerve agents are a special kind of terrible for me. Acetycholinesterase inhibitors in particular are the pinnacle of Any modern concentrated industrial pesticide also considers farmers pests, and most are like two or three functional groups away from the really awful nerve agents. Every year a dozen or so farmers manage to spill that poo poo on themselves, and die exactly as you described.
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Mar 15, 2018 07:48
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Take the entire disease progression of tetanus (2-3 weeks), condense it down to ~10 horrible minutes, and voila! You've got a real party cooking at that point.
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Methylethylaldehyde posted:Any modern concentrated industrial pesticide also considers farmers pests, and most are like two or three functional groups away from the really awful nerve agents. Every year a dozen or so farmers manage to spill that poo poo on themselves, and die exactly as you described. I remember reading examples of German 'oopsies' with regards to Soman, Tabun, and Sarin where one unlucky fucker had a *gallon* of the poo poo pour into his impermeable suit. They didn't even mince words, I think the conclusion of that particular entry was "he died." Every time someone has asked me in the past to explain nerve agents - usually because their impression is what they saw in "The Rock" - I tell them "bug spray for humans."
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Mar 15, 2018 07:53
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Sagebrush posted:as long as they contain a few extra neutrons yeah Gotta have those lagniappe neutrons.
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Mar 15, 2018 07:56
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Asproigerosis posted:if anyone wants some free radioactive material signs with trefoil, I can hook you up. We've closed 4 sites and the radiopharmacy loves sending them over and over as stocking stuffers. I'm in mike dot llaneza @ gmail dot com
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Mar 15, 2018 08:09
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Nerve agent symptoms has the acronym SLUDGE(M) and it is what you think it is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SLUDGE_syndrome If you see this, run. There is an old US military training video on youtube demonstrating this by firing live rounds of VX on to fortifications with goats in it. It pretty much breaks down to "You're hosed".
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Mar 15, 2018 10:30
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Methylethylaldehyde posted:Any modern concentrated industrial pesticide also considers farmers pests, and most are like two or three functional groups away from the really awful nerve agents. Every year a dozen or so farmers manage to spill that poo poo on themselves, and die exactly as you described. There's currently a scandal ongoing in Denmark about pesticide levels being way too high in a large portion of the groundwater. We've always been proud of our "clean pristine tap water", but that is certainly very much in question now. The worst thing is that the farming lobby and various right-wing governments have been extremely adamant since the 1970s that "there is no danger, the levels are perfectly safe with our current usage of pesticides". Bull. loving. poo poo.
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oohhboy posted:Nerve agent symptoms has the acronym SLUDGE(M) and it is what you think it is. My 2 biggest mistakes in the army (outside of joining  ) were asking a chemical warfare officer about her branch (it still exists, but only barely; these people do admin stuff unrelated to their work all day long), and taking that knowledge to an old army nurse and asking follow up questions, like “does the army have enough medicine to treat a large-scale release?” (lol no). She explained to me why there are so few MOPP suits, but plenty of decontamination gear floating around (suits are for company leadership, and it’s easy to decontaminate a rifle and put it into the hands of a new recruit).
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Mar 15, 2018 12:26
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I ordered some Chromium (III) oxide and our supplier sent us Chromium (IV) oxide instead. They offered to let us keep it but I'd rather not. 
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Rozzbot posted:I ordered some Chromium (III) oxide and our supplier sent us Chromium (IV) oxide instead. Thank god it isn't radioactive!
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Rozzbot posted:I ordered some Chromium (III) oxide and our supplier sent us Chromium (IV) oxide instead. IV is the reddish orange and III is the green isn't it? (I only remember chromium colors by using them to make ceramics glazes)
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Methylethylaldehyde posted:Any modern concentrated industrial pesticide also considers farmers pests, and most are like two or three functional groups away from the really awful nerve agents. Every year a dozen or so farmers manage to spill that poo poo on themselves, and die exactly as you described. Organophosphates are great. I got a mouthful of concentrated ant spray once when I was mixing chemicals at a resort I worked at years ago. I spit it out and rinsed my mouth. I stood there a few minutes reading the physicians instructions on the bottle. Treatment is to administer atropine to tolerance. That can't be good. Fortunately, I didn't get enough to hurt me I guess.
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mostlygray posted:Organophosphates are great. I got a mouthful of concentrated ant spray once when I was mixing chemicals at a resort I worked at years ago. I spit it out and rinsed my mouth. I stood there a few minutes reading the physicians instructions on the bottle. Treatment is to administer atropine to tolerance. That can't be good.  
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Mar 15, 2018 15:21
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shalafi4 posted:IV is the reddish orange and III is the green isn't it? Turns out I'm bad at roman numerals and its actually VI rather than IV, but I've got no idea what colour it is regardless. The III forms a very pretty emerald green when it's doped into silicate based glasses.  Surely there's a suitable chromium isotope that could complete the hazard symbol pyramid
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Rozzbot posted:Turns out I'm bad at roman numerals and its actually VI rather than IV, but I've got no idea what colour it is regardless. Or perhaps some flammable solvent to cap it with a torch?
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Mar 15, 2018 18:33
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Chromium (VI) oxide, based on a quick wiki search, is the main chromium compound used for chrome plating. I'm surprised the Harley plant here in Milwaukee hasn't blown up yet.
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Mar 15, 2018 18:50
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iospace posted:Chromium (VI) oxide, based on a quick wiki search, is the main chromium compound used for chrome plating. Silly goose, all the chroming is done by Indian and Chinese child laborers before being shipped over here to be assembled. Real Americans get to turn the final screws to ensure that "70% American-sourced content." That content is pride. 
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Mar 15, 2018 18:57
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iospace posted:Chromium (VI) oxide, based on a quick wiki search, is the main chromium compound used for chrome plating. It'll probably be a superfund though!
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iospace posted:Chromium (VI) oxide, based on a quick wiki search, is the main chromium compound used for chrome plating. Also horrifyingly toxic to the environment, and an absolute nightmare to remove from said environment since it tends to leach into the groundwater. Its a highly potent carcinogen as well. Doesnt help that when a chrome 6 spill happens, its usually a big one since its widely used in industry. Rigged Death Trap has a new favorite as of 20:10 on Mar 15, 2018 |
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Mar 15, 2018 20:03
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Ah, chrome-6. (Used to be) commonly added to paints. Involved in a big scandal in the Netherlands where thousands of contractors for the Dutch military got horribly and chronically ill because they were asked to paint stuff with paint that later turned out to have 200x the legal allowed maximum of chrome-6. Apparently the effects of breathing that in are "worse than asbestos".
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Mar 15, 2018 22:39
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Try mixing it with alcohol, preferably under a fume hood.
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Mar 15, 2018 23:56
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GWBBQ posted:Try mixing it with alcohol, preferably under a fume hood. Trip Report: Chrome Russian
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wolrah posted:Trip Report: Chrome Russian I think Captain America fought him in the last Avengers movie.
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Mar 16, 2018 01:00
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The supplier has said regulations prevent them from taking it back and they are contacting the manufacturer so we can send it back directly to them lol
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Mar 16, 2018 14:17
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Rozzbot posted:The supplier has said regulations prevent them from taking it back and they are contacting the manufacturer so we can send it back directly to them lol Reply from manufacturer: "Pour it down the drain."
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Also horrifyingly toxic to the environment, and an absolute nightmare to remove from said environment since it tends to leach into the groundwater. Its a highly potent carcinogen as well.
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The European REACH regs aimed to eliminate the use of chrome, until a bajillion automakers and mechanical component manufactures banded together and said "gently caress the environment, do you know how useful this stuff is?" For example it's used to coat press tooling, being hard as nails and mechanically very slippery. The plasma nitride alternatives can do hard, but not nearly as slippery. In the course of learning all this I meet some cheerful Germans with lasers, robots and pits of toxic chemicals.
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There’s a difference between irreplaceable industry applications and shiny loving bumpers is all.
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Mar 17, 2018 00:28
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Asproigerosis posted:if anyone wants some free radioactive material signs with trefoil, I can hook you up. We've closed 4 sites and the radiopharmacy loves sending them over and over as stocking stuffers. If this offer is still open I'm totally down for one of these. terriblerobotsa at gmail
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Asproigerosis posted:if anyone wants some free radioactive material signs with trefoil, I can hook you up. We've closed 4 sites and the radiopharmacy loves sending them over and over as stocking stuffers. If these are still around, I too would be interested. Username @ yahoo.com
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Asproigerosis posted:if anyone wants some free radioactive material signs with trefoil, I can hook you up. We've closed 4 sites and the radiopharmacy loves sending them over and over as stocking stuffers. Same. Nth.Doctor.SA at google's electronic mail domain.
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