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NoNotTheMindProbe: Aug 9, 2010; pony porn was here

Endman posted:

A tank is a big metal box with a gun on it.

Any other definition is unhelpfully specific.

This is accurate for pre-WWII definitions. During the war the meaning shifted to specifically mean an armored box with tracks and a full traversable turreted cannon.

# ? Mar 14, 2018 10:34

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# ? May 23, 2024 11:59

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

Starshark posted:

The "AR" in "AR-15" stands for assault rifle.

Avocado & rocket salad, $15.

You're looking at a menu item only ordered by those degenerate millennials who keep eating themselves out of the housing market by having the audacity to spend money on food.

# ? Mar 14, 2018 10:38

Vooze: Oct 29, 2011

Presented without comment.

# ? Mar 14, 2018 10:40

JBP: Feb 16, 2017; You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Vooze posted:

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Ok thread this is the bad immigration.

# ? Mar 14, 2018 10:43

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

https://twitter.com/evcricket/status/972757593100754944

# ? Mar 14, 2018 10:46

Eediot Jedi: Dec 25, 2007; This is where I begin to speculate what being a
man of my word costs me

Starshark posted:

The "AR" in "AR-15" stands for assault rifle.

The 15 stands for "average amount of civilian casualties"

# ? Mar 14, 2018 10:47

JBP: Feb 16, 2017; You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

https://twitter.com/evcricket/status/972757593100754944

Industry bargaining (?) is pattern bargaining and unlawful. FWC is lawful evil.

# ? Mar 14, 2018 10:51

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

Vooze posted:

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https://twitter.com/BetootaAdvocate/status/955952164106526720

# ? Mar 14, 2018 10:56

Reclines Obesily: Jul 24, 2000; Hey Moona!; Slippery Tilde

Vooze posted:

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wow, governemnt wants to make the african gang problem worse?

# ? Mar 14, 2018 10:58

You Am I: May 20, 2001; Me @ your poasting

Vooze posted:

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gently caress White South Africans. They are subhuman.

# ? Mar 14, 2018 11:18

JBP: Feb 16, 2017; You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

You Am I posted:

gently caress White South Africans. They are subhuman.

# ? Mar 14, 2018 11:18

bigis: Jun 21, 2006

I get it�s dickish to help SA people over others that are more needy but is this a glass half full situation? Isn�t this the most compassion we could expect from potato man?

# ? Mar 14, 2018 11:26

bandaid.friend: Apr 25, 2017; My first car was a stick

Vooze posted:

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I don't like Peter Dutton very much

https://twitter.com/sunriseon7/status/973287100094099457

# ? Mar 14, 2018 11:29

JBP: Feb 16, 2017; You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

bigis posted:

I get it’s dickish to help SA people over others that are more needy but is this a glass half full situation? Isn’t this the most compassion we could expect from potato man?

# ? Mar 14, 2018 11:30

GoldStandardConure: Jun 11, 2010; I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow; Pillbug

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxEweP2TiMk

# ? Mar 14, 2018 11:41

Don Dongington: Sep 27, 2005; #ideasboom; College Slice

It's genius. What other demographic are 100% guaranteed to vote against non-white immigration? The Christian Chinese aren't working out anymore, because their pesky kids are all bloody leftist uni students,

# ? Mar 14, 2018 11:49

TheIllestVillain: Dec 27, 2011; Sal, Wyoming's not a country

Vooze posted:

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lmao

# ? Mar 14, 2018 11:55

birdstrike: Oct 30, 2008; i;m gay

lmao retirees are quitting their ALP membership over the franking credit policy

# ? Mar 14, 2018 11:56

Tokamak: Dec 22, 2004

Radical Labor

# ? Mar 14, 2018 12:03

NTRabbit: Aug 15, 2012; i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches

Change from within working

# ? Mar 14, 2018 12:04

iajanus: Aug 17, 2004; NUMBER 1 QUEENSLAND SUPPORTER
MAROONS 2023 STATE OF ORIGIN CHAMPIONS FOR LIFE

Birdstrike posted:

lmao retirees are quitting their ALP membership over the franking credit policy

Can you ever really quit something you weren't a part of?

# ? Mar 14, 2018 12:08

Zenithe: Feb 25, 2013; _{Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.}

Vooze posted:

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Tamils: nah
Rohingya: nah
Boers: yeah.

One of these things is not like the other...

# ? Mar 14, 2018 12:20

BBJoey: Oct 31, 2012

drunkill posted:

tafe cuts are working as planned

https://twitter.com/workmanalice/status/973797443598016512

state and territory governments have responsibility for tafe funding, not the feds

and you�ll never guess which federal government pushed through the reforms at coag that deregulated and opened the vet sector to private training organisations that began the downfall - i�ll give you a hint, it wasn�t the coalition!

the current government is obviously not helping matters but destroying australia�s vocational education system is bipartisan policy at all levels of government

# ? Mar 14, 2018 12:22

Zenithe: Feb 25, 2013; _{Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.}

Can you imagine for even a second what would happen if we indefinitely locked up white SAs on manus? Jfc.

# ? Mar 14, 2018 12:24

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

Vooze posted:

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I don't have a strong opinion either way but I look forward to the people normally wanting to open the borders up to scream that they don't want those kinds of people over here. (however they actually phrase it)

# ? Mar 14, 2018 12:24

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

Zenithe posted:

Can you imagine for even a second what would happen if we indefinitely locked up white SAs on manus? Jfc.

Don't be silly my fellow Australian Citizen.

We'd hire them as the guards via a 3rd party mercenary outfit. And all the records would mysteriously be lost in a fire when it closes.

# ? Mar 14, 2018 12:25

BBJoey: Oct 31, 2012

literal economic refugees mr speaker

# ? Mar 14, 2018 12:25

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

How is lateline not on anymore gently caress this stupid country

# ? Mar 14, 2018 12:40

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

quote:

Torn to pieces: The rage inside the Greens' Batman machine

"You're f--king finished," the Greens staffer snarled down the phone. "I'm going to tear you to f--king pieces."
The dramatic threats, made on the weekend to this journalist, sound more like a scene from the TV show House of Cards than the words of a party that says it "does politics differently".
But the outburst demonstrates the pressure-cooker atmosphere inside the Greens' campaign as they approach the moment of truth on Saturday in their 17-year struggle to wrest control of Labor's former inner-Melbourne stronghold of Batman.
Disgruntled local members have mounted an extraordinary campaign of leaks and destabilisation in recent weeks that has driven some Greens almost to breaking point.
This is not a political party at peace with itself.
The internal campaign against Bhathal is just the latest outbreak of fighting in a civil war between the Greens' old guard and its reformers, a painful transition from protest movement to a mainstream political outfit.
On the national stage, the high-profile battle between leader Richard Di Natale, with his centrist approach, and the hard-left NSW Senator Lee Rhiannon looks like it will be fought to the political death.
The fault lines in Batman are familiar: Bhathal's foes are long-term party stalwarts, fellow members of the Darebin branch, aghast at some of the people surrounding the candidate, who they say are newcomers to the party with a "whatever-it-takes" approach to their politics.

This campaign should have been a dream run.
Not even Labor people have fancied their chances of holding Batman against the Greens' rising tide in Melbourne's inner-north, described, by one exasperated ALP operator, as a "juggernaut" driven by the area�s changing demographics.
Once the Liberals decided not to run a candidate, the Greens' Alex Bhathal was assumed to be likely to win at a canter in what will be her sixth attempt at the seat. But Bhathal's most dangerous enemies have proved to operate within her own party.
The dissidents are also unhappy that Bhathal threw her support behind first-time candidate Lidia Thorpe to stand in a state byelection last year over long-term candidate and Darebin local councillor Trent McCarthy.
The fury of some members of the Greens' largest branch was not soothed by Thorpe's subsequent crushing of Labor in its former bastion of Northcote in November, a result that was supposed to have paved the way for the Greens to sweep to victory in the federal division of Batman.
The trouble started well before David Feeney resigned from parliament over his mislaid citizenship papers.
A 101-page dossier of complaint against Bhathal, delivered to state party authorities on or around January 18, alleged the candidate was a bully, a branch stacker and "toxic element in our party".
Feeney was, at that point, in deep strife over his eligibility to sit in Parliament and Bhathal's enemies knew there was a byelection in the air.
In the wake of Feeney's January 31 resignation, a hastily convened party investigation cleared Bhathal of the allegations, which she strongly denies, and Di Natale pointed out the candidate was preselected by the Darebin branch with more than 230 votes for her and just 19 against.
But the complaint was never going to stay buried. There simply was not enough time for a thorough inquiry to be conducted and the ill-feeling ran too deep.
So someone leaked the dossier of complaints to The Australian and the ABC, with the story breaking on March 1.
The Greens� command-and-control structure kicked in as the party scrambled to limit the damage, with local branch members ordered not to comment and the leadership rallying around Bhathal.
But the initial attack, two-and-a-half weeks before polling day, was deftly timed.
Bhathal has been forced to deny she is a bully at virtually every major media engagement since, and the leaks have kept coming, despite vigorous attempts to shut stories down.
Di Natale himself publicly conceded the campaign was sabotaged from within after some Darebin members briefed journalists, anonymously, that they would rather see the Greens lose the byelection than Bhathal take up the seat in Canberra.

Kearney�s campaign can hardly believe its luck.
But the Greens' brand is so strong in central Melbourne, particularly in the gentrified neighbourhoods in Batman�s south, that Bhathal still stands an excellent chance of taking the seat.
The Greens have successfully turned the screws on Labor over its tortured position on the giant Adani mine proposal in Queensland, exposing Labor leader Bill Shorten�s sometimes farcical attempts to walk both sides of the street on the issue.
Bhathal�s campaign has also had good mileage out of the vexed political issue of asylum seekers, forcing Kearney to repeatedly concede she will toe the Labor line on policies she personally opposes.
The stakes are sky-high for the Greens on Saturday.
They must capture seats such as Batman, and the next-door electorate of Wills, if they are to bring their balance-of-power ambitions within reach.
A win in Batman would generate desperately-needed momentum for a party that underwhelmed in the 2016 election and had a horrible 2017, riven by internal strife and losing two senators to the citizenship saga.
But if Labor can hold onto Batman, it will be hugely encouraged in the struggle to keep its traditional inner-city strongholds and the story of the byelection will be once again be about the Greens' infighting and underperformance.
Under that sort of pressure, people can go to pieces.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/torn-to-pieces-the-rage-inside-the-greens-batman-machine-20180313-p4z43u.html

# ? Mar 14, 2018 12:56

Ghost Leviathan: Mar 2, 2017; Exploration is ill-advised.

Too many Poison Ivys, not enough Harley Quinns.

# ? Mar 14, 2018 13:05

NTRabbit: Aug 15, 2012; i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches

I like how the left wing party has been taken over by principle-free, deal making centrists, and it's the left's fault for not being 'more electable' and toeing the line set by the right.

# ? Mar 14, 2018 13:16

JBP: Feb 16, 2017; You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

NTRabbit posted:

I like how the left wing party has been taken over by principle-free, deal making centrists, and it's the left's fault for not being 'more electable' and toeing the line set by the right.

Yeah the greens have really botched this.

# ? Mar 14, 2018 13:18

NTRabbit: Aug 15, 2012; i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches

"We've finally achieved the balance of power, and all we had to do was agree to the FWA Choices for Work scheme, include clean coal as a solution in our environmental platform, and successfully fight for more woman guards at offshore detention centres"

# ? Mar 14, 2018 13:21

bigis: Jun 21, 2006

I can�t get my head straight on this unused franking credits refunds stuff. I�m now reading that this will disproportionately effect lower income oldies because those with high (taxable) incomes will have tax paid to still offset against? Are Labor suggesting that wealthy oldies have their affairs structured so that they have low taxable income anyway?

# ? Mar 14, 2018 14:15

Anidav: Feb 25, 2010; ahhh fuck its the rats again

Basically there is a large pool of oldies with big supers and are using franking credits to seem like they are low income by only using super to a minimal extent.

Rich boomers playing poor by using super and probably a combination of various tax reporting trickery and by closing the tax refund on excess credits this will cause said old people to use their super more so for expenses and therefore being honest about their true wealth in assets.

# ? Mar 14, 2018 14:22

bigis: Jun 21, 2006

I see. I think I still agree with the idea of refunding unused franking credits conceptually but I understand it has unfair benefits.

Edit: I guess it comes down to whether you think dividends should be taxed at the investors marginal rate or if you think dividends should be not be double taxed but also not refundable. So maybe this policy is conceptually OK after all.

bigis fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Mar 14, 2018

# ? Mar 14, 2018 15:15

Coucho Marx: Mar 2, 2009; kick back and relax

It's basically a highly progressive tax (or, rather, removal of Howard-era tax-evesion loophole) for retirees. Any low-mid income retirees hurt be the changes (and there are a few!) will make up for it by getting larger pensions to make up for the loss of income. Millionaire retirees can suck it up and spend more loving money.

# ? Mar 14, 2018 15:26

bigis: Jun 21, 2006

In summary; the more Howard-era policy that gets unwound the better.

# ? Mar 14, 2018 15:38

Jonah Galtberg: Feb 11, 2009

bandaid.friend posted:

I don't like Peter Dutton very much

https://twitter.com/sunriseon7/status/973287100094099457

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# ? Mar 14, 2018 15:55

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# ? May 23, 2024 11:59

BBJoey: Oct 31, 2012

NTRabbit posted:

"We've finally achieved the balance of power, and all we had to do was agree to the FWA Choices for Work scheme, include clean coal as a solution in our environmental platform, and successfully fight for more woman guards at offshore detention centres"

a savage takedown of an imaginary greens party

# ? Mar 14, 2018 21:42

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