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r u ready to WALK posted:I like how UAC on a server locks you out of directories that you would normally have access to on a server through the Administrators group unless you browse the file system from a remote machine because it is impossible to launch an Explorer window with elevated permissions. Instead, Explorer asks if you want to gently caress up file permissions by making GBS threads a new ACL with your username in it all over the existing files. Windows 10 does the same thing with the System32 folder. If you want to edit the hosts file, and you are a local admin, just opening the file with Notepad won't work, as you can't save. Opening Notepad with admin rights (what's the use of having admin rights when you have to manually select the option to run a program as an admin?) will then allow you to edit and save the hosts file.
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You Am I posted:(what's the use of having admin rights when you have to manually select the option to run a program as an admin?) it's so if you get exploited, the ability to have meaningful and lasting damage done to the system is limited back in the windows xp days when every application you ran had full admin rights poo poo was really bad all around
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i laugh when Linux nerds install sudo and log in as unprivileged user most the time, I just log in to root and type startx and get going, i dont need my computer telling me what i can and can't do
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agreedo
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univbee posted:it's so if you get exploited, the ability to have meaningful and lasting damage done to the system is limited i like how notepad++ tells me i need admin privileges to save a file, and asks if I want to restart it in admin mode. then when i say yes and click the uac prompt, it reopens with the file I was trying to save. i guess it saves it temporarily in userspace while restarting and remembers the privileged uri i was trying to save to
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sounds like your operating system is a piece of poo poo
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https://twitter.com/sinfullpotato/status/973156627338719232?s=21carry on then posted:interlinked this made my day
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your welcome kevin
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univbee posted:it's so if you get exploited, the ability to have meaningful and lasting damage done to the system is limited i used xp as a non-admin user from the start. i got into the habit from using windows 2000 as a non-admin user
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Wheany posted:i used xp as a non-admin user from the start. i got into the habit from using windows 2000 as a non-admin user a big part of microsoft’s reason for the shift was also to get program developers to stop expecting admin access to everything of course i still had vendors years later baffled our windows 2008 terminal server didn’t give everyone full admin rights with uac disabled
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Mar 14, 2018 13:26
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Alpha Mayo posted:i laugh when Linux nerds install sudo and log in as unprivileged user most the time, I just log in to root and type startx and get going, i dont need my computer telling me what i can and can't do on Linux it makes sense to always run as root since you don't have the scenario you do in windows where a user runs notavirus.exe and UAC can protect them from themselves. On Linux you would have done "sudo notavirus" anyway so they idea that sudo is protecting you is a joke.
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for a while I couldn't figure out why my notepad++ files weren't saving and it turns out ms decided my user folder required top secret security and was just silently denying access for months ms is absolute garbage
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I have to use lync at work and it lags an i5 to the point of not being able to type a chat program lags the computer so much I can't type. a+ work there ms *audio crackles, computer freezes* Your computer is causing poor audio quality.
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Mar 14, 2018 14:56
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teamspeak with 200 people in the channel in tyool 2004 was better than this rancid poo poo
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HAIL eSATA-n posted:for a while I couldn't figure out why my notepad++ files weren't saving and it turns out ms decided my user folder required top secret security and was just silently denying access for months no it didn't. you hosed with the permissions and broke it yourself.
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why would i ever have to mess with permissions on my user folder? what terrible OS would require such a thing
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it would also fail silently, again, when running programs from the /user/downloads folder i download an excel file and open it, error popup says it's "corrupted" nope, just need to go into the file properties > advanced > other advanced > security > advanced > advanced security > security and check "allow program" microsoft is clownshoes anyway i switched to steveos and haven't had any stupid microsoft problems. thank you for listening
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thanks for your microsoft fanfic
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theres no reason windows would ever change your user folder permissions.
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every time i realize office is still not distributed as an msi i lol luv to not be able to deploy software w/ gpo
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Shaggar posted:theres no reason windows would ever change your user folder permissions. and yet we’re still in this terrible pickle
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NEED MORE MILK posted:every time i realize office is still not distributed as an msi i lol no, it is, but only the expensive version proplus is msi based, everything else is ctr there is also a ctr version of proplus and you can package ctr+xml deployment files and deploy them via gpo
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infernal machines posted:no, it is, but only the expensive version
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anthonypants posted:there is an msi package which installs the ctr version and if you haven't figured that out yet you aren't a very good computer janitor imho orly where? because i dont see poo poo online that isnt "make a batch file and have it be a logon script" or other garbage
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Mar 14, 2018 17:13
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anthonypants posted:you aren't a very good computer janitor imho not that that's anything to aspire to, but most of the problems in this thread are straight up "halp! i'm not very good with computar"
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Mar 14, 2018 17:20
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NEED MORE MILK posted:orly where? because i dont see poo poo online that isnt "make a batch file and have it be a logon script" or other garbage infernal machines posted:"halp! i'm not very good with computar"
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here's an el reg article about some patches from yesterday breaking virtual windows servers https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/03/14/microsoft_secures_the_servers_of_the_world/
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anthonypants posted:here's an el reg article about some patches from yesterday breaking virtual windows servers https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/03/14/microsoft_secures_the_servers_of_the_world/ our dev system vms got hit lol, apparently 1/4 of the 15000 active vms in the farm
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qa? gently caress that, let the devs test it! why the gently caress are we paying people who can't program to work on software?
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HAIL eSATA-n posted:anyway i switched to steveos and haven't had any stupid microsoft problems. thank you for listening 🙏
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infernal machines posted:qa? gently caress that, let the devs test it! MS are morons. testing can't be fully automated until yo u can simulate humanity and their massive fuckups
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anthonypants posted:go here and click on the "install toolkit" link in the sidebar so a third party wrapper that also only works on pro plus
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NEED MORE MILK posted:so a third party wrapper that also only works on pro plus it says proplus but it works with whatever product you select in the configuration and officedev is 1st party microsoft, just on github
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Last Chance posted:MS are morons. testing can't be fully automated until yo u can simulate humanity and their massive fuckups I’m sure whatever dingus responsible got a nice bonus for making the numbers look good on paper. fat and organizationally ill corporation comfortable in the fact that they’re entrenched, so they poo poo on customers. insulting but it doesn’t matter I guess, they don’t need to do much to exist. how many more bungled products and annoyed users will it take for them to fall off?
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infernal machines posted:it says proplus but it works with whatever product you select in the configuration lmao jesus christ
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should we just like, make our installer an msi? gently caress no create a separate click to run application on github that mashes an xml and exe file together to create an unsigned msi that can then be deployed!
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NEED MORE MILK posted:lmao jesus christ
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anthonypants posted:yeah i get that reaction from your posts too 
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NEED MORE MILK posted:lmao jesus christ yeah.. i'm not defending this poo poo.
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