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Doctor Doom is a child's eternally superlative crayon drawn character.
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Mar 15, 2018 19:22
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Aphrodite posted:Doctor Doom is a child's eternally superlative crayon drawn character.
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Mar 15, 2018 22:23
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Nessus posted:Are you pitching a Doom/Flex Mentallo teamup? DOOM GAMBLES NO STAMPS 
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Mar 15, 2018 22:39
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Is High Evolutionary cool?
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Mar 18, 2018 18:06
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Sinners Sandwich posted:Is High Evolutionary cool? He's a science nerd who used his knowledge to make a bunch of furries. One of his furries became the literal devil of his planet of furries and it was a wolf that did it. He tried to recreate the ending of his favorite anime, Neon Genesis Evangelion. So, no, the High Evolutionary is the exact opposite of cool.
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Mar 18, 2018 19:06
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If someone had just introduced High Evolutionary to 4X games or like, The Sims, maybe he wouldn't have felt the need to create an entire planet and civilization.
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Mar 18, 2018 19:37
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High evolutionary's spore coming this fall
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Mar 18, 2018 20:03
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Sinners Sandwich posted:Is High Evolutionary cool? 
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Mar 18, 2018 23:30
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Way to Godwin the discussion Thor.
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Mar 18, 2018 23:57
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Madkal posted:Way to Godwin the discussion Thor. The weird thing about that is Thor fought on the Nazi side of WWII (along with Dr. Doom for some weird reason given his heritage).
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Mar 18, 2018 23:58
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Random Stranger posted:The weird thing about that is Thor fought on the Nazi side of WWII (along with Dr. Doom for some weird reason given his heritage). Doom (retconned later to be time-travelling with his platform) is at least the one who surreptitiously clues Thor into how Hitler was being less than completely honest with him, right after Thor almost killed a decoy Josef Stalin with lightning. Actually I'm pretty sure that whole Invaders issue was them playing hot potato with Stalin so Thor couldn't fry that luxurious mustache
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Mar 19, 2018 00:34
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Did thor really fight for the Nazis at one point
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Mar 19, 2018 00:54
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Mar 19, 2018 01:11
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So that's why nazicap could lift the hammer, mjolnir is a Nazi
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Mar 19, 2018 01:17
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site posted:Did thor really fight for the Nazis at one point In an issue of Invaders, a Nazi scientist is building a transdimensional portal with the help of a young man with a bandaged face who later reveals himself to be Bachelor of Science Doom. They summon Thor who helps them fight the Invaders. It's an idea that sounds way more clever than it turns out to be. And it has one of those endings where Doom has Hitler at his mercy, goes on about how awful he is, but doesn't actually kill him for no reason other than maintaining continuity.
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Mar 19, 2018 02:02
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I mean, the Nazis were super into Norse poo poo, it honestly makes a lot of sense that if Thor showed up and didn't otherwise know what the gently caress was going on, he'd throw in with the dudes who were worshipping him.
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Mar 19, 2018 02:04
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Random Stranger posted:In an issue of Invaders, a Nazi scientist is building a transdimensional portal with the help of a young man with a bandaged face who later reveals himself to be Bachelor of Science Doom. They summon Thor who helps them fight the Invaders. My Roy Thomas sense is tingling!!
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Mar 19, 2018 03:52
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CapnAndy posted:I mean, the Nazis were super into Norse poo poo, it honestly makes a lot of sense that if Thor showed up and didn't otherwise know what the gently caress was going on, he'd throw in with the dudes who were worshipping him.
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Mar 20, 2018 09:30
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Why do that when you could convince him to assassinate Stalin as an enemy of the Norse people 
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Mar 20, 2018 12:09
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Random Stranger posted:In an issue of Invaders, a Nazi scientist is building a transdimensional portal with the help of a young man with a bandaged face who later reveals himself to be Bachelor of Science Doom. They summon Thor who helps them fight the Invaders. I am positive that there was a follow up series in the 90s. (It was this series that had the Mole Man when he was an explorer before he became Uncle Moley.) It showed that Doom couldn't murder Hitler because it would effect his own path. Which as a guy from a country that the Nazis would have wanted to wipe off the map, makes a lot of sense.
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Mar 20, 2018 21:42
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The Question IRL posted:I am positive that there was a follow up series in the 90s. (It was this series that had the Mole Man when he was an explorer before he became Uncle Moley.) I think that was when they retconned the story to be about a time traveling Doom. At the time the story was written, Reed and Ben had still fought in World War 2 so there was no "path" to affect. Doom could have shot Hitler in the head with no real consequences for him and only didn't because it didn't match real-world history (in which case, don't have Hitler at Doom's mercy and Doom talking about how he should kill Hitler as the climax of your story).
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Mar 20, 2018 23:39
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The Question IRL posted:I am positive that there was a follow up series in the 90s. (It was this series that had the Mole Man when he was an explorer before he became Uncle Moley.)
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Mar 20, 2018 23:44
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IIRC, Doom specifically noted that Hitler had mostly lost the war at that point and was about to kill himself soon anyway. Hitler dying mysteriously instead might have created a new stab-in-the-back legend. But that's probably overthinking it.
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Mar 21, 2018 03:11
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Random Stranger posted:I think that was when they retconned the story to be about a time traveling Doom. At the time the story was written, Reed and Ben had still fought in World War 2 so there was no "path" to affect. Doom could have shot Hitler in the head with no real consequences for him and only didn't because it didn't match real-world history (in which case, don't have Hitler at Doom's mercy and Doom talking about how he should kill Hitler as the climax of your story). When I finally read the original Lee/Kirby run on F4, that was the one thing that completely fit for when it was written and also made it impossible to square with modern continuity, Reed Richards fought in WW2 and OG Nick Fury was his sergeant (Ben Grimm too, but he was a pilot and Richards was infantry so they didn't meet until college). Has there been anything written using the moving timeline to imply Reed Richards is a vet?
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Mar 21, 2018 07:55
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Silver2195 posted:IIRC, Doom specifically noted that Hitler had mostly lost the war at that point and was about to kill himself soon anyway. Hitler dying mysteriously instead might have created a new stab-in-the-back legend. But that's probably overthinking it. Pretty much, that's what I got. Like, if in my timeline the Nazi's didn't conquer Latveria and murder my ancestors, I had best be careful when travelling back in time that I don't erase myself from existence. This is a lesson that Norman Osborn learnt the hard way....once.
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Mar 21, 2018 09:51
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Skwirl posted:When I finally read the original Lee/Kirby run on F4, that was the one thing that completely fit for when it was written and also made it impossible to square with modern continuity, Reed Richards fought in WW2 and OG Nick Fury was his sergeant (Ben Grimm too, but he was a pilot and Richards was infantry so they didn't meet until college). Has there been anything written using the moving timeline to imply Reed Richards is a vet?
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Mar 21, 2018 11:04
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Nessus posted:Without the draft I don't think it makes sense for Reed to be a vet. Ben would make sense though. Richards was a badass back in the day.
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Mar 21, 2018 12:04
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Reed didn't become Reed Richards until Lee and Kirby had been at it for a while. He was a bit like a stretchier version of Doc Savage for a good few years at the start of FF.
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Mar 21, 2018 17:05
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Nessus posted:Without the draft I don't think it makes sense for Reed to be a vet. Ben would make sense though. Yeah, Ben is definitely a veteran and you get people occasionally giving him a rank ("Captain Grimm") in conversations. Reed, however, seems to have had his military service quietly erased. FWIW, Reed was in the OSS originally, sneaking behind enemy lines and doing some sabotage. Fury wasn't his sargent, Reed was a major in the issue of Sgt. Fury where he appears. And that makes sense; presumably Reed and Ben finished at least a degree first and then enlisted which would have pushed them into the officer corps.
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Mar 21, 2018 17:43
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Nessus posted:Without the draft I don't think it makes sense for Reed to be a vet. Ben would make sense though. Reed would have totally volunteered for WW2. James Stewart enlisted and got pissed they wanted him to make training films instead of go out and kill Nazis (John Wayne got a deferment, because he's a loving pussy).
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Mar 21, 2018 17:45
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Skwirl posted:Reed would have totally volunteered for WW2. James Stewart enlisted and got pissed they wanted him to make training films instead of go out and kill Nazis (John Wayne got a deferment, because he's a loving pussy). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uv_WGEHr4I
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Mar 21, 2018 21:16
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I could see Grimm wanting to punch the poo poo out of Nazis
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Mar 21, 2018 21:25
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Skwirl posted:Reed would have totally volunteered for WW2. James Stewart enlisted and got pissed they wanted him to make training films instead of go out and kill Nazis (John Wayne got a deferment, because he's a loving pussy).
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Mar 21, 2018 22:48
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Nessus posted:Oh yeah I mean more like narratively speaking, it would significantly alter Reed's characterization if he was a veteran in the late 90s or whatever based on The Sliding Timeline. In the mid-60s that was just a thing just about anyone was involved with. Yeah, I can't imagine Reed signing up for the military at any point past 1945, maybe at the start of Vietnam just to make it less likely someone else got drafted. That would actually be a hell of a What If? something goes wrong with Reed Richard's student deferment and he's in the same platoon as Frank Castle.
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Mar 21, 2018 23:10
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what if reed richards became the punisher
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Mar 21, 2018 23:12
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What If...? Reed Richards Punished Someone Other than His Closest Family and Friends for a Change?
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Mar 21, 2018 23:27
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Madkal posted:I could see Grimm wanting to punch the poo poo out of Nazis I could see him being a coward.
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Mar 21, 2018 23:53
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Jordan7hm posted:I could see him being a coward. I can't.
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Mar 21, 2018 23:56
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 He'd change his tune once Sue calls him out.
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Mar 22, 2018 00:01
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isnt ben jewish? i cant imagine hed go over to europe and then chicken out on killing some nazis
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