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Comptroll The Forums
Apr 25, 2007

DON'T HURT MY FEE FEES!
Yeah but where's all the stories about liberals who scream for universal healthcare but then never go to the hospital? loving hypocrites t:mad:

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Doctor Malaver
May 23, 2007

Ce qui s'est passé t'a rendu plus fort

poptart_fairy posted:

American health care genuinely astounds me. I can never grasp why that's considered acceptable.

Yeah. For me one of the most astounding things on SA was discovering the medical forum and in it people who can't afford a doctor so they ask the internet for advice.

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Jamesman
Nov 19, 2004

"First off, let me start by saying curly light blond hair does not suit Hyomin at all. Furthermore,"
Fun Shoe

Doctor Malaver posted:

Yeah. For me one of the most astounding things on SA was discovering the medical forum and in it people who can't afford a doctor so they ask the internet for advice.

I remember seeing a discussion on Tumblr where non-Americans were shocked and confused that "medical bills" in the US means we get literal bills. The concept was so hard to grasp.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

NyetscapeNavigator posted:

UO never had any anything approaching that kind of sophistication. They were just really bad at figuring out spawn rates because they were blazing the MMO trail.

Also: corp por

vas kal an mani in corp hur tym motherfucker

You
Oct 6, 2009

Jamesman posted:

I remember seeing a discussion on Tumblr where non-Americans were shocked and confused that "medical bills" in the US means we get literal bills. The concept was so hard to grasp.

All kidding aside, it seems so terribly dystopian. I can't even imagine the kind of stress that would put on lower income households. Just the concept of being denied aid when in need is so loving horrendous that it feels like it should violate human rights. But then again I'm a socialist libtard so that's probably why I don't understand.

Kheldarn
Feb 17, 2011












Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Having to pay €10 for a beer also seems dystopian, so it balances out.

Blendy
Jun 18, 2007

She thinks I'm a haughty!

Doctor Malaver posted:

Yeah. For me one of the most astounding things on SA was discovering the medical forum and in it people who can't afford a doctor so they ask the internet for advice.

Welcome to my living reality. I work reference at a library. It's rare if a day goes by where I don't get asked medical, legal, or financial advice from someone all to eager to share ALL of their personal details with me. Today my department had a meeting on how we can best serve patrons that come in, don't know how to use a mouse or keyboard and want us to help them apply for a predatory loan. Honestly, our legit homeless population are some of our nicest patrons when they manage to stay on their meds and get enough sleep.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

One thing our alcohol tax does right is that it actually favors quality stuff over cheap swill, because the tax is entirely based on the alcohol content and not the pre-tax sales price.

You
Oct 6, 2009

Phlegmish posted:

Having to pay €10 for a beer also seems dystopian, so it balances out.

That's why it's common practice among young adults go get shitfaced at home on imported drinks before going out. Also when I was growing up we used the term APK (Alcohol per Krona) so that you could calculate how to get the most drunk on the least money spent.

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

You posted:

That's why it's common practice among young adults go get shitfaced at home on imported drinks before going out. Also when I was growing up we used the term APK (Alcohol per Krona) so that you could calculate how to get the most drunk on the least money spent.

mission accomplished

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense



What was the porno shop doing with all that birdseed?

Jamesman
Nov 19, 2004

"First off, let me start by saying curly light blond hair does not suit Hyomin at all. Furthermore,"
Fun Shoe

You posted:

All kidding aside, it seems so terribly dystopian. I can't even imagine the kind of stress that would put on lower income households. Just the concept of being denied aid when in need is so loving horrendous that it feels like it should violate human rights. But then again I'm a socialist libtard so that's probably why I don't understand.

Also remember when Newt Gingrich or someone got sick in a place where his insurance didn't apply, and he shrugged it off as no big deal because it only cost about as much as a new car and he didn't understand why that was a big deal for people to pay?

END OF AN ERROR
May 16, 2003

IT'S LEGO, not Legos. Heh


You posted:

All kidding aside, it seems so terribly dystopian. I can't even imagine the kind of stress that would put on lower income households. Just the concept of being denied aid when in need is so loving horrendous that it feels like it should violate human rights. But then again I'm a socialist libtard so that's probably why I don't understand.



You can’t be denied emergency aid, however you can tear apart your family afterwards by the lifelong crippling debt and wage garnishment, and permanently ruined credit. America!

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/ByYourLogic/status/974413849632870400

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Tiny Lowtax posted:

You can’t be denied emergency aid, however you can tear apart your family afterwards by the lifelong crippling debt and wage garnishment, and permanently ruined credit. America!
Tore the debt right from my wallet

go for a stroll
Sep 10, 2003

you'll never make it out alive







Pillbug

Tiny Lowtax posted:

You can’t be denied emergency aid, however you can tear apart your family afterwards by the lifelong crippling debt and wage garnishment, and permanently ruined credit. America!

Plus, all this really means is stabilizing you if you're bleeding out or something. Dying of cancer is not an emergency.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

go for a stroll posted:

Plus, all this really means is stabilizing you if you're bleeding out or something. Dying of cancer is not an emergency.

Or if after they've stopped you from bleeding out you need like, physical therapy to walk again, tough poo poo.

END OF AN ERROR
May 16, 2003

IT'S LEGO, not Legos. Heh


Guy Goodbody posted:

Or if after they've stopped you from bleeding out you need like, physical therapy to walk again, tough poo poo.

Or medication for your new onset heart problems.

That70sHeidi
Aug 16, 2009

Guy Goodbody posted:

Or if after they've stopped you from bleeding out you need like, physical therapy to walk again, tough poo poo.

My insurance required X amount of physical therapy visits before they'd approve surgery for something that cannot be fixed by anything BUT surgery. I kept asking reception what my copay was or would be and they brushed it off as "Oh, they'll just bill you." loving $40 a visit! For a half hour of me doing exercises in front of witnesses, three times a week. I flat out told my surgeon afterwards I will not do PT again, I will use YouTube and wing it.

Also, my head anesthesiologist and his second in command billed me for $300 each about a day after I got home. Super prompt.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Jamesman posted:

I remember seeing a discussion on Tumblr where non-Americans were shocked and confused that "medical bills" in the US means we get literal bills. The concept was so hard to grasp.

I just had one of those moments in the r/elationships thread. I was talking about non emergency patient transport for a woman with non life-threatening problems and someone pointed out that, in the US, you have to book ahead for them and there can be a wait of several weeks.

In Australia, it's about 90 minutes.

Every time I think I've plumbed the depths of the US' lovely health care, something new pops up and loving floors me.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

I do love following your crazy politicians like a lovely reality show and in the abstract the whole America thing is hilarious.

Then I realise these things are really happening to real people and I get sad.





Get well soon, America.




Jamesman
Nov 19, 2004

"First off, let me start by saying curly light blond hair does not suit Hyomin at all. Furthermore,"
Fun Shoe

JoelJoel posted:

I do love following your crazy politicians like a lovely reality show and in the abstract the whole America thing is hilarious.

Then I realise these things are really happening to real people and I get sad.





Get well soon, America.

When we get sick, we take a healthy dose of thoughts and prayers until God makes us better again. If we die, it means God wanted to bring us into his kingdom of Heaven and that's also good.

And the money we save by not being required to have health insurance and therefore not paying for some entitled millennial to afford insulin, we get to spend on more guns, which protect us in case the government turns evil or something.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Jamesman posted:

When we get sick, we take a healthy dose of thoughts and prayers until God makes us better again. If we die, it means God wanted to bring us into his kingdom of Heaven and that's also good.

And the money we save by not being required to have health insurance and therefore not paying for some entitled millennial to afford insulin, we get to spend on more guns, which protect us in case the government turns evil or something.

I'm sorry



gleebster
Dec 16, 2006

Only a howler
Pillbug

Snowy posted:

What was the porno shop doing with all that birdseed?

Offering it for sale. When cross-dressing mayor Rudolph "did I mention 9/11?" Giuliani went after the porn shops and peep shows in Times Square, a legal question involved how to define "adult businesses" so that the number could be limited, and eventually ratcheted down to none. So, the proprietors brought in stuff like birdseed, books of crossword puzzles, and other stuff, put it in the basements and corners and, if anyone asked, would be willing to sell it. The point was that less than half of what they had in stock was dirty books, so how can you say they're running a business that can be shut down by Giuliani? Didn't work in the long run, and now only out-of-towners go to Times Square.

SneezeOfTheDecade
Feb 6, 2011

gettin' covid all
over your posts

Snowy posted:

What was the porno shop doing with all that birdseed?

Look, buddy, if someone wants to gently caress a bird, you gotta have the bird handy.

Comptroll The Forums
Apr 25, 2007

DON'T HURT MY FEE FEES!

Besesoth posted:

Look, buddy, if someone wants to gently caress a bird, you gotta have the bird handy.

I think with birds it's called a wingy.

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

The porn was just a front. If you went to the back off any porno store or that era you found an unlicensed pet store.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


You posted:

Both Finland, Norway, Iceland and Sweden have a state owned monopoly on alcoholic beverages over a certain percent (Ranging from above 3,5% in Sweden and above 5,5% in Finland, lower percentages are allowed in regular stores). These monopolies were introduced in a more puritan mindset during the early to mid 1900s and part of their task was to regulate the consumption of alcohol and, if we're being cynical, bring in a steady flow of taxes. Most nordic countries have some of the worlds highest taxes on alcohol. I remember taking a Dutch colleague out to pizza and beer and told him that the beer will cost as much as the food. He just laughed at me until he had the menu in hand. A regular beer in a restaurant/bar in Sweden costs ~10 dollars and 2-3 dollars a can at the store.


It's like this in Canada too. A can is $4 at the store, a pint at a restaurant is $8.

There used to be a bar run by the stars of Trailer Park Boys that had $1 shots. But the local hospitals complained that their Friday and Saturday nights were filled with people getting their stomach pumped, so they passed a law that shots can't be under $3.

Skeleton Mom
Aug 11, 2008

If you ask to buy the birdseed, the proprieter ushers you into a back room where there's just a guy in a bootleg Big Bird costume sitting on a folding chair next to a bottle of hand sanitizer.

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

You
Oct 6, 2009
The chicks and cocks has to be nourished by someone

EKDS5k
Feb 22, 2012

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU LET YOUR BEER FREEZE, DAMNIT

Ccs posted:

It's like this in Canada too. A can is $4 at the store, a pint at a restaurant is $8.

There used to be a bar run by the stars of Trailer Park Boys that had $1 shots. But the local hospitals complained that their Friday and Saturday nights were filled with people getting their stomach pumped, so they passed a law that shots can't be under $3.

I don't know where you're shopping but at the BC liquor stores it's less than $2 a can/bottle, and that's for the good locally made stuff. And a 12 pack is usually slightly cheaper per bottle than a 6 pack.

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

Flyball
Apr 17, 2003


Haley Joel Osment

Ak Gara
Jul 29, 2005

That's just the way he rolls.

You posted:

That's why it's common practice among young adults go get shitfaced at home on imported drinks before going out. Also when I was growing up we used the term APK (Alcohol per Krona) so that you could calculate how to get the most drunk on the least money spent.

I think that's how butt chugging vodka shots started.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

poptart_fairy posted:

American health care genuinely astounds me. I can never grasp why that's considered acceptable.

Lol if you think this train isn't on a high speed collision course to wherever you live just lol

Android Apocalypse
Apr 28, 2009

The future is
AUTOMATED
and you are
OBSOLETE

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Caganer
Feb 15, 2018

You posted:

Both Finland, Norway, Iceland and Sweden have a state owned monopoly on alcoholic beverages over a certain percent (Ranging from above 3,5% in Sweden and above 5,5% in Finland, lower percentages are allowed in regular stores). These monopolies were introduced in a more puritan mindset during the early to mid 1900s and part of their task was to regulate the consumption of alcohol and, if we're being cynical, bring in a steady flow of taxes. Most nordic countries have some of the worlds highest taxes on alcohol. I remember taking a Dutch colleague out to pizza and beer and told him that the beer will cost as much as the food. He just laughed at me until he had the menu in hand. A regular beer in a restaurant/bar in Sweden costs ~10 dollars and 2-3 dollars a can at the store.

As far as I know, the companies Alko and Systembolaget (Finland and Sweden respectively) both have a ban on cost reductions on alcoholic beverages. There is no sales or option to buy at bulk prices, a can of beer will always cost the same not matter how many you buy, to discourage abundant drinking. And to be fair, the history of widespread alcoholism in the nordic countries during the ages makes it quite reasonable that it became regulated. However there is a rather small political movement on the right wing thats trying to abolish the monopoly, but for now the monopolies are here to stay.

I realize that putting regulations on something that's harmful is quite foreign to an American, but that is how we roll. :finland: :norway: :iceland: :sweden:

Also, screw you Denmark.

Yeah but the Nordic countries are also not very :420: friendly, if you cared about harm you’d sell weed by the ounce for :10bux: in liquor stores

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