Mantis42 posted:

Once two students approached Master Agesilaus in the hopes that he would resolve a debate. The first student argued that the Dark Ages of the West was a misnomer, the use of which denoted bad historiography. The second student in turn argued that this was revisionist nonsense, that the Dark Ages were materially real, the nadir of Western culture and society.

With a nod of his head, the Master indicated that the second student was correct. The first left in a huff. The victorious student pleased, thought of a followup question.

"Master Agesilaus, if the Dark Ages were indeed real," he said "when must a proper historian place its end?"

Agesilaus sighed and looked off in the distance. "It gets darker every day."

Squalid posted:

I don't think a literal interpretation of Lingcodkilla's post as describing a specific historical event is justified.

fantastic in plastic posted:

3/15/-44 never forget

Arglebargle III posted:

Was that the day Cesar Chavez was assassinated?

Arglebargle III posted:

Was that the day Cesar Chavez was assassinated?

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Hero of the People Caesar brutally murdered by the cowardly oligarchic reactionaries.

Gaius Marius posted:

You might be joking but lepidus managed to die of old age which is something none of Augustus other enemies can claim.

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Probably because unlike every other spurned Roman general of the age he decided to gently caress off and lie low after being stripped of his powers instead of raising some legions and going to war in the name of his Dignitas.

euphronius posted:

Can we please stop using "Antony" in this thread of all threads. Please. It's so bad.

euphronius posted:

Can we please stop using "Antony" in this thread of all threads. Please. It's so bad.

The Guardian posted:

The first modern Britons, who lived about 10,000 years ago, had “dark to black” skin, a groundbreaking DNA analysis of Britain’s oldest complete skeleton has revealed.

The fossil, known as Cheddar Man, was unearthed more than a century ago in Gough’s Cave in Somerset. Intense speculation has built up around Cheddar Man’s origins and appearance because he lived shortly after the first settlers crossed from continental Europe to Britain at the end of the last ice age. People of white British ancestry alive today are descendants of this population.
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The results pointed to a Middle Eastern origin for Cheddar Man, suggesting that his ancestors would have left Africa, moved into the Middle East and later headed west into Europe, before eventually crossing the ancient land bridge called Doggerland which connected Britain to continental Europe. Today, about 10% of white British ancestry can be linked to this ancient population.
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The team homed in on genes known to be linked to skin colour, hair colour and texture, and eye colour. For skin tone, there are a handful of genetic variants linked to reduced pigmentation, including some that are very widespread in European populations today. However, Cheddar Man had “ancestral” versions of all these genes, strongly suggesting he would have had “dark to black” skin tone, but combined with blue eyes.

Scientists believe that populations living in Europe became lighter-skinned over time because pale skin absorbs more sunlight, which is required to produce enough vitamin D. The latest findings suggest pale skin may have emerged later, possibly when the advent of farming meant people were obtaining less vitamin D though dietary sources like oily fish.

Pontius Pilate posted:

Seems as if the convention is Octavian for the civil war and before and Augustus for well y’know.

Squalid posted:

Grand Fromage posted:

I just taught this to Chinese students with zero background and decided to stick with Augustus exclusively. I thought it was far too complex given that we were learning different Latin names in a class taught in English, which is already their third language so. Simplicity is best.

cheetah7071 posted:

Apparently his cognomen at birth was Thurinus and I'm a little surprised that I've never even heard that before.

euphronius posted:

I think his dad won a battle there ?

cheetah7071 posted:

Apparently his cognomen at birth was Thurinus and I'm a little surprised that I've never even heard that before.

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

I think the source on that was Suetonius, and I remember that it didn't sound very trustworthy in Twelve Caesars.

skasion posted:

Can we stop using “Octavian”? Sometimes I feel sorry for the guy, invented the principate and set the course of Europe for centuries to come and 2000 years later respectable historians are still referring to him with the equivalent of “Obummer”

fantastic in plastic posted:

When Barry Soetoro ascended to the highest office of the American Republic, the people of his age began to refer to him as "Obama", an honorific with a meaning lost to history

Falukorv posted:

English seems like the weird outlier among the germanics in deviating from the Latin spelling of Roman historical figures. German and Scandinavian languages spell like it was in Classical Latin. Maybe it is a norm introduced by French? Cause in today’s Romance languages that developed organically from their Latin origins, names of famous Romans are spelled with current orthography and naming conventions.

Caio Julio Cesar, Diocletiano, Marco Aurélio, Antonino Pio, Lúcio Vero, Cómodo and so on...

euphronius posted:

Can we please stop using "Antony" in this thread of all threads. Please. It's so bad.

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Is Pompey the only guy to have Magnus in his formal name? Every other (and way better) famous Roman general has something more specific like Africanus.