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fishmech posted:What are you babbling on about now. Also it's hardly sane to claim "the rent's higher" only matters to rich people. i think you'll find that people who dont work for google find both the bay area and nyc equally difficult to afford, fishmech
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boner confessor posted:i think you'll find that people who dont work for google find both the bay area and nyc equally difficult to afford, fishmech No, you wouldn't find that.
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Just relocate an entire corporate HQ to some bumfuck town in a flyover state. Employees want culture? They can watch things online. e: or just have a completely virtual office and spread the employees out over the country, have their commute be putting on a VR helmet. super sweet best pal fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Mar 15, 2018 |
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super sweet best pal posted:Just relocate an entire corporate HQ to some bumfuck town in a flyover state. Employees want culture? They can watch things online. Telecommuting can work, but in my experience genuine casual face-time is important.
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super sweet best pal posted:Just relocate an entire corporate HQ to some bumfuck town in a flyover state. Employees want culture? They can watch things online. If I churn out another five hours of coding I can get an exclusive bowtie for my WatrCoolr avatar!
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Telecommuting can work, but in my experience genuine casual face-time is important. yeah despite full time telecommuting being feasible for 20+ years it hasn't really caught on because irl interaction is important. only a handful of people have the ability or power to pull it off - i knew a guy who was so essential to [major corporation] that they legally set up a branch office in nowhere, southwestern virginia so he could live a semigrid rural lifestyle on his mountain orchard while technically working full time in denver as a database genius
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Cicero posted:It was specifically in relation to bikes, so yes: https://www.fastcompany.com/3050776/google-wants-to-make-silicon-valley-as-bike-friendly-as-copenhagen Hell Yeah. I lived in Palo Alto from '88-'92. It's a great cycling area.
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boner confessor posted:i think you'll find that people who dont work for google find both the bay area and nyc equally difficult to afford, fishmech They will find both difficult to afford, but not equally so.
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Cicero posted:Yeah, Mountain View has way too many jobs for being a random suburb with hardly any real transit. Probably why Google is pushing hard now to build a new complex in San Jose next to the transit center there. Seattle has eclipsed Los Angeles for the "worst traffic ever" title. I've biked in Seattle. I don't think most people would do that because of geography and weather. Silicon Valley has better weather and climate.
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https://twitter.com/TechWraith/status/974318779692867584 So these are some ads that popped up in the SF bay area recently. It's depressingly unsurprising to see that as you start to see more and more unrest among programmers, nationalists are targeting them more and more explicitly. I'm hopeful that labor sympathies are taking hold as well, and that a lot of people in that space are pushing a line of international solidarity, but it's concerning nonetheless.
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VideoGameVet posted:Seattle has eclipsed Los Angeles for the "worst traffic ever" title. quote:I've biked in Seattle. I don't think most people would do that because of geography and weather. Silicon Valley has better weather and climate.
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super sweet best pal posted:Just relocate an entire corporate HQ to some bumfuck town in a flyover state. Employees want culture? They can watch things online. "Why don't these tech companies just have their entire workforce telecommute??"
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apokaladle posted:So these are some ads that popped up in the SF bay area recently. It's depressingly unsurprising to see that as you start to see more and more unrest among programmers, nationalists are targeting them more and more explicitly. I'm hopeful that labor sympathies are taking hold as well, and that a lot of people in that space are pushing a line of international solidarity, but it's concerning nonetheless. So did "progressive" get co-opted by the Nazis or what?
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GrandpaPants posted:So did "progressive" get co-opted by the Nazis or what? Nazis have a history of lying to get their way
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Groovelord Neato posted:jesus boston is only 7th? Boston would certainly be much higher on the bad traffic if it was back to pre-big-dig routes, for instance.
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GrandpaPants posted:So did "progressive" get co-opted by the Nazis or what? Progressive is an empty enough word to be useful to Nazis.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:It's been tried. Oddly enough, employees have the choice to leave. Go figure! I've worked at least twice at small companies that were placed in cheaper attractive places to live. When they went under/were bought, employees were either stranded in a one-job town or had to move, which meant either $$$$ or finding an employer willing to pay $$$$ to relocate you. I'll never voluntarily live in a one-job town again; it's important to be able to move on when you need to. Made that mistake early in my career, went to a cheaper, smaller city for a job that paid fairly well junior level. After some time there I realized they may pay well in the beginning but the growth sucks. They know they have a captive audience, being the only job in it's field in the area meant if they fired you, you had nowhere to go.
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that's what happened to the folks that moved for curt schilling's company.
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Our HQ (tech megacorp) is in the middle of nowhere, literally surrounded by fields, with the closest big city an hour away. Seems to work out fine 
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mobby_6kl posted:Our HQ (tech megacorp) is in the middle of nowhere, literally surrounded by fields, with the closest big city an hour away. Seems to work out fine It works very, very well until it doesn't. Ask Gateway Computers. (That doesn't mean it's inevitable. It means there have been a lot of places that did it, and then stopped doing it.)
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Arsenic Lupin posted:It works very, very well until it doesn't. Ask Gateway Computers. (That doesn't mean it's inevitable. It means there have been a lot of places that did it, and then stopped doing it.) That's kinda different isn't it? I mean while they were out in the middle of the Dakotas, they were also just assembling and shipping computers for the most part, not trying to be some big massive engineering and programming company. If anything it made it really convenient to have a central location for shipping while still having the system designers and all that able to check out the production lines and interact with the production staff easily to handle problems. And the company didn't fall apart until after they moved HQ to California...
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SXSW 2018: Quantum Computers Could End Climate Change Debate, Says Expert, you say? And is this genius talking about quantum computers?quote:Hurley was born in Manassas, Virginia. In his youth, his family moved around a lot, as his father was a member of the US Army Special Forces. They lived in Germany, Virginia and Arizona before settling in San Antonio, Texas, where Hurley attended elementary school. The Hurley family later moved to Temple, Texas. Following his graduation from Temple High School in 1989, Hurley took electronic music courses at Temple Junior College, which would be the extent of his college education.[5] Before you wonder whether he possibly did any kind of research on quantum computer on his own or is some kind of quantum savant, rest assured that he did not! He spent the next few decades in very classical computer startups and tech.
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GrandpaPants posted:So did "progressive" get co-opted by the Nazis or what? The National Socialist Workers Party weren't called Socialists because they had Socialists ideas. "Socialist" was the big buzzword of the Twenties and Thirties, it was just good branding for them to include it. This is basically the same.
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Warbadger posted:I know. But they could literally build normal apartments in normal neighborhoods (the development of which they could probably even force through) and offer them as rental options to employees at reasonable rental rates (following CA law) and still probably see better return on the investment than a shiny new absurdly huge HQ.
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if nimbys didn't exist we could have affordable housing everywhere. alas, white people.
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Well no, to really have affordable housing you'd also need a big public housing program, competently run. But yes overriding NIMBYs would also be a prerequisite there.
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ShadowHawk posted:The problem with this plan is that building housing is illegal. Until it isn't, which won't happen until the parties keeping the issue on lockdown (those who benefit enormously from the status quo) are contested successfully. That is a thing that will be much easier if the rich companies push the issue. Plus, you know, there are apparently already examples of companies like Google doing this.
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Google wasn't able to do it successfully until the Mountain View city council changed from NIMBYs to people more pro-housing. The earlier city council had already shot down the idea of housing in the north Bayshore area, the new one then revisited the issue, resulting in the current plan. Companies would love to see more housing, it only hurts them that the bay area fights the issue so much. But companies don't make laws, believe it or not, and while they obviously have influence in these cities, they can't just run roughshod over all the existing residents' wishes.
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Bloomberg made a Tesla production tracker for anyone interested in graphs of Tesla failing to hit targets.
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Cicero posted:No, it's #9: https://www.smartertravel.com/2018/02/07/traffic-watch-10-congested-u-s-cities/ You're right, it's a suburb of Seattle that's leading now. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattl...on-report-says/ Usually, a world-class city like Los Angeles, New York, or Washington, D.C., springs to mind when people think of debilitating traffic. But this year’s INRIX Global Traffic Scorecard, released Monday night, spreads its infamy to a small Northwest city. “Commuters around Everett, Washington, spent more time stuck in traffic than anyone else,” according to commentary by the Kirkland-based transportation data and navigation company. As to biking, the trail around Lake Washington is nice (rode it last summer) and the rest of city is bike friendly. I like hills.
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https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/16/silicon-valley-internal-work-spying-surveillance-leakersThe Guardian posted:Companies will also hire external agencies to surveil their staff. One such firm, Pinkerton, counts Google and Facebook among its clients. Google and Facebook are literally hiring Pinkerton agents to oppress their workers. The future looks more and more like the past. SimonChris fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Mar 16, 2018 |
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Read every single word of this bullshit.quote:The gatherings are also notoriously fruitful networking opportunities; Rosenthal had told me I would be immersed in a community of “polymaths” and “savants”, but they would be a humble bunch. “If people are really like ‘oooh’, showing off, showing you pictures of their supercars or some poo poo at the dinner table? Probably not a cultural fit at Summit,” he says. “What superstars do you know, who you interact with, who are self-aggrandising these days? I don’t know anybody that walks around pumping their own chest when they’ve accomplished something – at least in our generation. It’s just, like, unnecessary.”
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SimonChris posted:https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/16/silicon-valley-internal-work-spying-surveillance-leakers TIL Pinkerton agents are still a thing.
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"All the pricks you hate will be clustered together at this remote location at specific times." Can't wait for the bombings.
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SimonChris posted:https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/16/silicon-valley-internal-work-spying-surveillance-leakers The Pinkerton's are still around? the gently caress?
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