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the end of the podcast is an obvious work its really stupid and wont drum up any heat or interest, but its a work
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I always wondered what people saw in Sami Callihan, so it feels oddly satisfying to see more people who also don't get him/dislike him.
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I knew about the newsletter, podcasts and board but not this https://twitter.com/thecubsfan/status/974811408109056000
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looks like u got scooped bro how come you didn't have the deets about the spicy wings rovert more like, poo poo poster with no scoops.
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Mar 17, 2018 02:25
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Wait why are people mad on twitter about New Japan Matches on TV? I am very confused. Or is this just "wrestling twitter is bad being the sole constant factor on this earth"
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Mar 17, 2018 02:48
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Jerusalem posted:I always wondered what people saw in Sami Callihan, so it feels oddly satisfying to see more people who also don't get him/dislike him.  He's on my super short list of wrestlers where if they're in a match I just can't find a poo poo to give.
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Mar 17, 2018 02:51
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Sami was a lot more fun when we thought "being a gross rear end in a top hat" was his gimmick and not, like, who he really is
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Mar 17, 2018 03:19
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Ive never had Publix wings but if their chicken tendy sandwich came with a subscription i would renew
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algebra testes posted:Wait why are people mad on twitter about New Japan Matches on TV? I am very confused. Or is this just "wrestling twitter is bad being the sole constant factor on this earth" They are so used to the dynamic that a TV wrestling match is short and not that important that they can't comprehend anything else. Even if they've watched a ton of lucha or puro, the idea that in Mexico and Japan that big shows are routinely shown on TV, or in Japan's care cut up and shown on TV over multiple weeks doesn't count.
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Mar 17, 2018 03:24
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MassRafTer posted:They are so used to the dynamic that a TV wrestling match is short and not that important that they can't comprehend anything else. Even if they've watched a ton of lucha or puro, the idea that in Mexico and Japan that big shows are routinely shown on TV, or in Japan's care cut up and shown on TV over multiple weeks doesn't count. the term "TV Match" has a specific meaning and connotation and you are being really pedantic if you just say "but it's literally a match on TV!"
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Mar 17, 2018 03:35
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this is like saying Misawa was a great "TV match wrestler" because a shitload of puro house shows got broadcast on television
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algebra testes posted:Wait why are people mad on twitter about New Japan Matches on TV? I am very confused. Or is this just "wrestling twitter is bad being the sole constant factor on this earth" It’s an incredibly minor semantic argument about one award that the wrestling mans readers vote on
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Mar 17, 2018 03:37
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Oh no it’s infected the thread
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Mar 17, 2018 03:38
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Here's a tv match: your face, and john cena vs shinsuke nakamura on smackdown last year
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Have we got to the point yet where people complain because they think Dave picked the winners personally?
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E: nm I think I got worked
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Cavauro posted:Here's a tv match: your face, and john cena vs shinsuke nakamura on smackdown last year That was a cool match 
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Jerusalem posted:Have we got to the point yet where people complain because they think Dave picked the winners personally? Check Dave's twitter, there's at least four or five that he's responded to
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Feels Villeneuve posted:this is like saying Misawa was a great "TV match wrestler" because a shitload of puro house shows got broadcast on television Ric Flair was a great TV match wrestler. Source: Clash of The Champions was a TV show. Your definition of 'TV match' is ridiculously pedantic to the point of meaning "modern WWE A/B show TV match". 30 years ago a TV match was a squash match, or on something like Clash or SNME it was the same as a main event house show match. In Japan and Mexico the latter definition hasn't really changed. Hell, TNA and Lucha Underground regularly have their big blow off matches on TV now because they don't have/no one buys their PPVs. Gaz-L fucked around with this message at 04:17 on Mar 17, 2018 |
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Mar 17, 2018 04:13
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Feels Villeneuve posted:the term "TV Match" has a specific meaning and connotation and you are being really pedantic if you just say "but it's literally a match on TV!" It's a stupid term that exists only if you look at TV through the limited lens that the American wrestling model produced. People getting mad at Dave for saying NJPW puts out the best TV matches are stupid as hell. NJPW and AJPW tapes were so heavily traded because of the TV matches!
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Yeah it's almost like it's a term specifically used to talk about people who worked in American-based promotions with TV. Like seriously it takes it's own set of skills to do entertaining matches with the limitations of it being a 10 minute studio show match (or a RAW match), and it's a useful term for people who put in good work under those limitations and weren't necessarily known for working US main event style matches. When someone says Christian, Sheamus, or someone like that was a "good TV match wrestler" they aren't comparing that to house show matches broadcast in Japan, like, come on. It's specific to the US wrestling scene. Feels Villeneuve fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Mar 17, 2018 |
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Yeah it's almost like it's a term specifically used to talk about people who worked in American-based promotions with TV. The idea of a TV match is ever evolving and context sensitive. It meant different things in the 70s, 80s and 90s and now today because TV matches in the US keep changing. When you hear a guy like Buddy Wayne talk about working a TV match the whole thing is so different to what a WWE TV match is today and his hey day was just 20 years ago.
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MassRafTer posted:The idea of a TV match is ever evolving and context sensitive. It meant different things in the 70s, 80s and 90s and now today because TV matches in the US keep changing. When you hear a guy like Buddy Wayne talk about working a TV match the whole thing is so different to what a WWE TV match is today and his hey day was just 20 years ago. It is context sensitive but in almost every case where I've seen it brought up on wrestling boards it is specifically referring to people who were good at working entertaining matches in studio shows, or RAW/Nitro-like environments, especially midcarders who rarely got the chance to work US main event-style matches. And yeah the standard of a RAW match is far better than it was even 10 years ago, but even now it's extremely rare to get an actual PPV-quality main on RAW. Like the fact that it's specific is why it's a useful term, if it was just a broad-rear end term that included literally everything broadcast on TV anywhere, the term wouldn't actually mean anything.
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I mean people who had to work shitloads of 10-15 minute matches was (and is) literally a thing that happened, I don't see what's wrong with trying to evaluate wrestlers who worked a huge part of their career with those specific limitations. I love Mike Enos because his offense kicks rear end but it doesn't make sense to judge his work out of the context of almost all of it being TV matches.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:I mean people who had to work shitloads of 10-15 minute matches was (and is) literally a thing that happened, I don't see what's wrong with trying to evaluate wrestlers who worked a huge part of their career with those specific limitations. I love Mike Enos because his offense kicks rear end but it doesn't make sense to judge his work out of the context of almost all of it being TV matches. Because studio matches were so very different from Raw/Nitro matches, hell even Raw and Nitro matches were very different. I almost never see someone called a good TV match wrestler compared to just a good worker. Very rarely do I hear wrestlers using that term vs a good worker. Even when they talk about American TV matches and guys being good at things it's usually in reference to specific kinds of matches since there was a good deal of variation on TV shows. Edit: Ironically I see way more older wrestlers talk about great house show workers. MassRafTer fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Mar 17, 2018 |
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Mar 17, 2018 05:06
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Can't wait for the Johnny Bravo breaking news audio
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exploded mummy posted:Can't wait for the Johnny Bravo breaking news audio I want a Johnny Bravo Breaking News Audio with Bryan and Vinny.
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Tits, Whips & Buff Match 
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im amazed dave and bryan managed to get 20 minutes out of discussing the wet fart that is johnny bravo
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Raskolnikov38 posted:im amazed dave and bryan managed to get 20 minutes out of discussing the wet fart that is johnny bravo That's nothing, the forums got 2 weeks out of it!
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Half of it was Dave mansplaining and I was ready to roll my eyes at him repeating "well if this isn't true, then the guys could definitely sue, although if it is true, that's a different story, you don't have grounds for a lawsuit if it's actually true" and then I remembered the caliber of some of the people who write in/tweet at Meltzer.
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God bless this WOR existing so I got me some UPW history.
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dsriggs posted:Tits, Whips & Buff Match
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Sami Callihan chews tobacco so..
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PUNKS DIET SODA posted:Sami Callihan chews tobacco so.. So do Ric Flair and Kurt Angle
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PUNKS DIET SODA posted:Sami Callihan chews tobacco so.. its a cornfield thing, you wouldn't understand.
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a lot of wrestlers chew tobacco
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Just reminding everyone that Wrestlesplania remains a good, depraved listen, and their latest episode with Stokely Hathaway is cool and fun. They're the yin to Meltzer's verbose yang.
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