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The White Dragon posted:i can't imagine what it must be like to go through life as such a joyless bumbaclot Earthbound gets fondly remembered for its quirky nature, which is fine. But that's all it has going for it. There are 20 RPGs I would rather replay for SNES before I got to it.
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seiferguy posted:Earthbound gets fondly remembered for its quirky nature, which is fine. But that's all it has going for it. There are 20 RPGs I would rather replay for SNES before I got to it. I don't know, some of the music is pretty memorable too In terms of gameplay I think I kinda agree
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seiferguy posted:Earthbound gets fondly remembered for its quirky nature, which is fine. But that's all it has going for it. There are 20 RPGs I would rather replay for SNES before I got to it. Oh I got you, you take issue with it for the game being referenced. For me, I'm looking at it more like the line itself had just the right comedic timing to catch me off guard. It was a perfectly placed joke and I walked right into it.
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Mar 18, 2018 06:55
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Ciaphas posted:I'm at the point in the story where I head for Altissia, I think, and I'm not sure I want to continue given what I know about the rest of the game Consider it a point of no return and try to 100% complete your current open world? I genuinely had a blast doing that.
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when I think about the game as a whole, so the disappointment would probably just sour me
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The best part of XV is that you can switch between the feel-good Buddy movie and the brooding dark Action-Drama movie at will. The idea of taking that away sounds awful.
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Mar 18, 2018 06:59
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So in FFXVPC did they fix how hosed up and awful Pitioss is or can you just cheat and give yourself the Black Hood + Genji Gloves without slogging though it?
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Mar 18, 2018 07:04
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Mechafunkzilla posted:So in FFXVPC did they fix how hosed up and awful Pitioss is or can you just cheat and give yourself the Black Hood + Genji Gloves without slogging though it? Why would they ever change Pitioss it's hilarious
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Mar 18, 2018 07:11
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Mechafunkzilla posted:So in FFXVPC did they fix how hosed up and awful Pitioss is or can you just cheat and give yourself the Black Hood + Genji Gloves without slogging though it? Pitioss is the best dungeon in the game.
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Ciaphas posted:I don't know, some of the music is pretty memorable too I can only recall a few songs from the soundtrack, mainly because Smash Bros makes me remember them. The White Dragon posted:Oh I got you, you take issue with it for the game being referenced. For me, I'm looking at it more like the line itself had just the right comedic timing to catch me off guard. It was a perfectly placed joke and I walked right into it. Oh it's a perfectly fine joke. I just like the opportunity to take potshots at Earthbound because people wildly defend it over weak reasons. seiferguy fucked around with this message at 07:24 on Mar 18, 2018 |
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kirbysuperstar posted:Pitioss is the best dungeon in the game. Truth!
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Is there literally any way to return to Fodina Caestino or will this half done photo quest haunt me for eternity?
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So I just finished chapter 13 in XV, and I understand it got tons of redesign? What'd they change? The version I played was slow, boring, and full of petty annoyances, but it didn't feel like it would provoke all of the complaints I heard about it when the game first came out.
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Mar 18, 2018 10:31
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Earthbound has a part where you wait three real time minutes to infiltrate a factory so you can defeat a sentient pile of vomit by giving him honey made from flies in order to free a race of creatures so weird I can!t even describe them. If you think about it Earthbound is the essence of Final Fantasy.
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Mega64 posted:Earthbound has a part where you wait three real time minutes to infiltrate a factory so you can defeat a sentient pile of vomit by giving him honey made from flies in order to free a race of creatures so weird I can!t even describe them. I thought the essence of final fantasy was a bunch of crystals with large wigs and impractical swords with zippers on them. Also, one of the crystals is named Cid.
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lobster22221 posted:I thought the essence of final fantasy was a bunch of crystals with large wigs and impractical swords with zippers on them. Also, one of the crystals is named Cid. You forgot to mention that they’re all riding giant yellow chickens.
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Mar 18, 2018 14:25
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Asphyxious posted:Is there literally any way to return to Fodina Caestino or will this half done photo quest haunt me for eternity? There arent any missables, so yes theres a way back there for the photo. Omi no Kami posted:So I just finished chapter 13 in XV, and I understand it got tons of redesign? What'd they change? The version I played was slow, boring, and full of petty annoyances, but it didn't feel like it would provoke all of the complaints I heard about it when the game first came out. The ring got super buffed from launch, but even with that as you note its just a real bad section for how late in the game it is.
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Mar 18, 2018 14:38
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No poo poo the ring got buffed, I just nuked the adamantoise with it in literally just minutes. Good thing too, because it took me hours to do that stupid fight on PS4.
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Mar 18, 2018 14:47
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Omi no Kami posted:So I just finished chapter 13 in XV, and I understand it got tons of redesign? What'd they change? The version I played was slow, boring, and full of petty annoyances, but it didn't feel like it would provoke all of the complaints I heard about it when the game first came out. I haven't played the patched version, but originally it was what you described, except it took even longer. It's not a great section, but it's placement in the story was pretty much just a 3 hour interlude right before the final chapters, completely destroying any pacing.
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So I stuck with Noctis for chapter 13. What’s different when you play as gladio and ignis? I’m guessing they just replace the stealth with combat? Is it still a bunch of hallways and keycards?
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Mar 18, 2018 14:57
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I picked up a really strong greatsword in Malmalam Thicket but hoo boy I really don't like using greatswords with Noctis. It really feels like Noctis is meant to always be as fast and maneuverable as possible, so the super-slow wind-up for each attack is just brutal. I need to find a good spear. The strongest I have right now is the Ice Lance and it just pales in comparison to the swords I can use (and the stat boosts from Sword of the Wise make it nice to spend a slot on no matter what). I suppose I could've held off on upgrading the Engine Blade so much but I got three Sturdy Helixhorns in a single fight, what do you want from me? 
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Mar 18, 2018 17:46
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You do jump attacks with Great Swords, that's how you circumvent the slow start-up.
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Ah, that'd do it. I'll have to give that a try. Swinging around a huge sword that makes lightning strike everywhere certainly is satisfying the few times I don't get punched out of my startup.
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man nurse posted:So I stuck with Noctis for chapter 13. What’s different when you play as gladio and ignis? I’m guessing they just replace the stealth with combat? Is it still a bunch of hallways and keycards? Its still a bunch of hallways but you are playing Gladio with Ignis following you sometimes helping. And you get a lot more info on the outside world along the way(still not a huge amount) and get to see how a certain character got to where he was when Noctis arrived. Its easier then the original version of 13 though and doesn't scale at all based on your level or gear and is much quicker so if you care to get more lore you can chapter select it for a run through but I'd probably suggest putting a little distance between you and 13 first so you don't burn out on the repetitive hallways with the same basic enemies in them. (now that I say it. Wow chapter 13 and FF13 are pretty similar. Including reading a good chunk of data without hearing any.....) Oh and if you do chapter select it DON'T keep playing on that one. I lost 3 or 4 levels doing that because I went back to the road trip portion of the game after it and found out all of my side quest progress and map completion went away as if I had just started the game from chapter 13 with all my items and weapons..... thinking of that though actually you might only be able to go back and select it once you've finished the game... its been awhile since I actually finished it.
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man nurse posted:So I stuck with Noctis for chapter 13. What’s different when you play as gladio and ignis? I’m guessing they just replace the stealth with combat? Is it still a bunch of hallways and keycards? They go in after Noctis so all the keycard hunting is already finished and doors are open. You just go through, watch a couple of videos in security rooms, stick your sword into one demon Noctis had to run from, and then the lines rejoin.
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Should I assume the listed attack value for the royal arms doesn’t tell the whole story? I keep hearing about things like Sword of the Wise being really good but its attack seems really low for being a weapon that costs HP. Are there special multipliers on some attacks or something?
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You don't actually use the Royal Arms, because of the HP drain, but you do equip them for the passive buffs they give. At endgame you should always have at least Sword of the Father equipped at all times, and maybe another Royal Arm depending on what you want to do.
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Harrow posted:Should I assume the listed attack value for the royal arms doesn’t tell the whole story? I keep hearing about things like Sword of the Wise being really good but its attack seems really low for being a weapon that costs HP. Are there special multipliers on some attacks or something? Having it equiped boosts your characters attack value for all attacks and weapons. you don't need to actually use it in battle.
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Gologle posted:You don't actually use the Royal Arms, because of the HP drain, but you do equip them for the passive buffs they give. At endgame you should always have at least Sword of the Father equipped at all times, and maybe another Royal Arm depending on what you want to do. I've seen videos/written things about how some of the royal arms can do pretty great DPS, like spamming the opening attack with Sword of the Wise or something, but maybe that's bullshit?
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Harrow posted:I picked up a really strong greatsword in Malmalam Thicket but hoo boy I really don't like using greatswords with Noctis. It really feels like Noctis is meant to always be as fast and maneuverable as possible, so the super-slow wind-up for each attack is just brutal. Do the initial attack, wait for Noctis to backstep, then do another attack for a super-fast multi-hitting spin attack.
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man nurse posted:No poo poo the ring got buffed, I just nuked the adamantoise with it in literally just minutes. Good thing too, because it took me hours to do that stupid fight on PS4. That upgrade made the last few menace dungeons hilarious. Combine that with the exosuits and it got even funnier - you're temporarily invulnerable to damage and can nuke anything at will. They really didn't balance the ring well at all.
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Final Fantasy XV Chapter 5: Dude Where's My Car? Also the whole segment at the Ring of Cauthess was kickin' rad.
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YoshiOfYellow posted:Final Fantasy XV Chapter 5: Dude Where's My Car? "hey noct, you have a tattoo on your rear end!" "so do you, gladio! what's it say?"
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Megaphone on Gladio and a choker on Noct pretty much negates the HP drain on royal arms, and Swords of the Wanderer is supposed to be a lot better than it's attack rating suggests.
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I played chapter 13 a couple nights ago and had a good time dance-nuking around everything. If Holy sucked at release, I can see how 13 got its reputation, though.
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Here is the list of Royal Arms, off the top of my head, that are actually decent-to-good at being used, as opposed to just being stat buffs: Sword of the Father, Swords of the Wanderer, Scepter of the Pious, Star of the Rogue, Shield of the Just (pretty much just for farming though), Katana of the Warrior, and Trident of the Oracle is kind of situational, because its ability can be duplicated by an ascension grid node IIRC (could be wrong, I don't have the game on hand to check right now).
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Royal arms all have kick rear end animation sets, which is the most important part.
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seiferguy posted:I can only recall a few songs from the soundtrack, mainly because Smash Bros makes me remember them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFS3j9MHdI4 seriously I sometimes just get the main melody of it stuck in my head completely at random for days on end and I don't think it was ever in a Smash
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DACK FAYDEN posted:What about the desert music? There's only 3 songs I can recall off of Earthbound. Onett theme: https://youtu.be/nNGY_fvXUCY Fourside: https://youtu.be/bvBT1Cspwss This battle theme because it starts like the riff off of Tequila: https://youtu.be/AOSMoEKox8g
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aegof posted:I played chapter 13 a couple nights ago and had a good time dance-nuking around everything. If Holy sucked at release, I can see how 13 got its reputation, though. As far as I recall holy was always pretty good. It might be better now. I know they made Death a lot better though. And.... Altera or whatever its called. They were a good deal slower and death used to basically only work on lowbie enemies and the guys in that dungeon. Anything outside of the beginning of the game and chapter 13 though would take multiple full mana bars to kill with death. Altera meanwhile had the same problem of the vast majority of enemies being flat out immune to it and the added fun of it only having a random chance of working in the first place. Meaning you could empty your whole mana bar for it and have all the enemies ignore that anything is happening to attack you.
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Gologle posted:Here is the list of Royal Arms, off the top of my head, that are actually decent-to-good at being used, as opposed to just being stat buffs: Sword of the Father, Swords of the Wanderer, Scepter of the Pious, Star of the Rogue, Shield of the Just (pretty much just for farming though), Katana of the Warrior, and Trident of the Oracle is kind of situational, because its ability can be duplicated by an ascension grid node IIRC (could be wrong, I don't have the game on hand to check right now). Is there some cool interaction between the crossbow one and Ignis's Overwhelm tech? I saw a post somewhere else that just mentioned "bow + Overwhelm" as something that does a ton of damage.
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