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Stormgale posted:To do it properly wouldn't you need to shoot 5 documentaries then only release one, maybe give it a found footage vibe The good news is it'd be cheap to film because instead of buying expensive sound equipment you just use the on-cam mic.
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Sarcopenia posted:Speaking of Channel Awesome drama. Lornekat, you are a good and kind mod and I commend you for having the superhuman patience that this thread requires but I always physically recoil when I see your name because my brain scrambles it into LordKat. I've legit considered changing my name or inventing a time machine to go back and kick his dad really hard in the nuts.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Joseph Anderson on Subnautica: Joesph. Joe. No. The fact that a crashed ship is close to the cannon that shot it down on a planet is not that big a deal. If it was further away, then you'd never find it and it basically wouldn't exist, so what's the point you're trying to make? That you'd rather they not tell the story of how the ship crashed into this planet? gently caress it's not even a big plot hole, they can have more than one big rear end cannon, there's nothing that says it's the only one. Same goes for other crashed ships, like c'mon, do you want this game to tell you a story or not? TheMaestroso posted:Oh god, I just remembered how Doug ruined that chat with some of the Animaniacs people by constantly cutting from them back to his mugging face reacting to nothing, so it comes off as incredibly forced and bad, because he has no idea how to have video of himself actually interacting with his guests OR how to edit it so that his stuff is audio-only and focus on the subjects (you know, like an interview). That's probably his best video, too, if only because he's interviewing some actually funny people. WampaLord posted:His videos are still just as entertaining and informative as always. I think it's interesting to know that you can kill the giant fish in Subnautica, even if the game doesn't want you to. That says something about the game and the developer's intentions. If he hadn't ever tried, he wouldn't know. It's weird, though, that he dismisses those intentions. Like, he explicitly says that he shouldn't be able to kill the fish, and I rolled my eyes pretty hard at that comment cause you know for a fact, if you couldn't kill them at all, he would complain about it. He doesn't expand the ability to kill the fish into a discussion of developer intentions, he damns them for it. WampaLord posted:Because being inundated with comments and messages about "YOU DIDN'T PLAY THE WHOLE GAME, SO YOU'RE WRONG" probably feels really lovely and he might also be rightly concerned that if enough people with that opinion stopped watching his videos, he would lose money and become less relevant. At that point, is he playing and reviewing games for himself, or for his audience? Where do you draw the line at forming your own opinion, and forming an opinion that you think will resonate with your audience likes? And if that's the kind of audience he wants to have, then he's gonna have less of his own take on each game and more of his frustrations at trying to please some anonymous individual's sense of "correct reviewing". gently caress the audience, you can never please a hundred thousand voices at once so just do it for yourself. Kim Justice posted:...Anyone know if Angry Joe's said much? Dunno how much he's still associated with CA. It's commonly said that Blistered Thumbs was his baby and he worked his arse off on it with barely any support from the Walkers/Mike, so I wonder if he's got his own thoughts on the matter. I would be shocked if Joe weighed in on this. He tends to keep his head low around drama and comes off like he lives under a rock. SatansBestBuddy fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Mar 18, 2018 |
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Disproportionation posted:You forgot to mention that she had to come in to work while recovering from surgery to be told that she was fired. Yup. Of all the morally reprehensible things they've done, that's in the top of the list. It probably moved up a spot now that she's also mention that they made her work literally every single day, even Christmas (even though Doug is I loving LOVE CHRISTMAS man)-- for the sole purpose of posting videos at AN EXACT TIME. Even though they had software to schedule that. It is too bad it's all coming out now, since any sort of job-action claim in IL needs to be done in something like 2 years. And since it's an "at will" state (rant about America being insane here), there's no such thing as "wrongful dismissal". But I'm sure making her work 24/7/265 was against SOME labor laws. I still haven't heard anything from CA as to *WHY* she was fired. I'm sure there's some excuse about "poor performance and We're Please To Announce", but I'm sure that's bullshit. Either they wanted to stop paying her-- or due to her position, she was close enough to the accounting info to have spotted any irregularities (even if it was just asking Dough "Hey, why does Mushhead draw that big of a salary?") See early comments about financial misdoings.
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SatansBestBuddy posted:gently caress the audience, you can never please a hundred thousand voices at once so just do it for yourself. What if he is doing it for himself? What if that's just how he likes to review things? I honestly don't get the hate that seems to have spawned for him all of a sudden when the videos basically seem the same to me. He was just as pedantic before when it came to stuff like Uncharted.
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Speaking of Holly: Her and the person in charge of the @Unawesomes twitter account (https://twitter.com/Unawesomes) has taken up Allison's call to #ChangeTheChannel. (Background on that account below). From the sounds of it, they're looking to become a creator's hub. Send them a link to The Thing You Made (anything, not just videos-- doesn't violate Twitter TOS-- they retain right to refuse to post anything for any reason) and they'll tweet it out. Mission seems to be a way to connect creators and audience who might not otherwise find each other. There's a Google Doc with a FAQ: https://t.co/txJxovIGPl -- Background (drawn from The Tree of Many Branches of gently caress Channel Awesome): @tgwtg way-back-when was a fan-run Twitter that was the official unofficial TGWTG channel. Obviously everyone there is technically braindead, so didn't understand social media. A fan took it upon themselves to make video and news announcements via the channel. It got about 80k followers. It's the account Doug got his "Ebert tweeted at me" Tweet from. Once day Mushhead decides "We need a twitter we control create @ChannelAwesome). @twgtg person says "Uh, how about I just give you the @TGWTG account, you change the name, and, y'know, keep those 80k followers". But since Mushhead is a loving egotistical fucknut who refuses to believe any else can succeed, he didn't do that, and said he'd be deleting @TGWTG. Fan-person very upset, since they cultivated that account and made friends & connections, etc. Insert a bunch of stuff here, and effectively, the fan took the channel back, changed the name to @Unawesomes, and kept it. CA called it a "hack".
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Because he's actively seeking out open-world games and ruining them for himself by playing like someone with OCD. Then he spends 60 minutes of his videos going through it as 'critique'. It's crazy, it'd be like reviewing Assassins Creed on the collection of the achievement flags. 75% of his Super Mario Odyssey is spent hammering down a point he made in the first five minutes, there are a lot of moons. Whatever legitimate faults he finds (seriously who shipped the islands in Subnautica) get drowned out in this insane pursuit of inane nonsense. His videos were always meticulously detailed but they're growing increasingly pedantic as of late. MiddleOne fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Mar 18, 2018 |
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WampaLord posted:What if he is doing it for himself? What if that's just how he likes to review things? ... then good for him? You're the one who brought up the audience as influencing his reviews. Are you just being contrary? WampaLord posted:I honestly don't get the hate that seems to have spawned for him all of a sudden when the videos basically seem the same to me. He was just as pedantic before when it came to stuff like Uncharted. I don't hate his videos, he raises good points, like the poor performance of the game at launch is the same as it's been in years of early access, that's something to get pissed about, or the way inventory has obvious ways to streamline that should have been used, that's a good point. But then he spends a quarter of an hour talking about "plot holes" and it's like, no? Basically everything he has issue with is a non-issue at best, and it comes off as constructing problems the game doesn't actually have because he wants to engage with the plot but can only nitpick at it. It speaks to being unfamiliar with story conventions and therefore a lot of talking out of his rear end.
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ultimately the issue is the criticism says more about him than it does the piece, if criticism is the pursuit of greater understanding of art he's failing at it pretty miserably
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cat doter posted:ultimately the issue is the criticism says more about him than it does the piece, if criticism is the pursuit of greater understanding of art he's failing at it pretty miserably https://twitter.com/jph_anderson/status/975194805885177856
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There is literally no way to word that sentence in a way that doesn't make it sound bad. Joseph...STAHP.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:He'd have to get a Doug cameo, and nobody wants that. I have this image in my brain of a fast paced talking head documentary similar to An Honest Liar and the Doug and/or Michaud interview is as important to Unnamed Channel Awesome Documentary as Uri Geller's is to An Honest Liar.
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FoldableHuman posted:I have this image in my brain of a fast paced talking head documentary similar to An Honest Liar and the Doug and/or Michaud interview is as important to Unnamed Channel Awesome Documentary as Uri Geller's is to An Honest Liar. I have visions of montages filled with skewered statements from NC videos and apocalyptic/polemic imagery set to "Dirt" by The Stooges.
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In non terrible things, is there a full version of Allison's Movie Nights theme?
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FoldableHuman posted:I have this image in my brain of a fast paced talking head documentary similar to An Honest Liar and the Doug and/or Michaud interview is as important to Unnamed Channel Awesome Documentary as Uri Geller's is to An Honest Liar. Im thinking more like The Jinx, in that theyll get Doug in for an interview in the hope that hell leave the mic on and then go to the bathroom.
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Honestly, that hub idea is amazing, because I dearly miss something like that. YouTubes recommended section just cant compete with a curated site of like indes people, though I dont think a Twitter account is the right way.
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FoldableHuman posted:I have this image in my brain of a fast paced talking head documentary similar to An Honest Liar and the Doug and/or Michaud interview is as important to Unnamed Channel Awesome Documentary as Uri Geller's is to An Honest Liar. Would you recommend watching that, by the way? I'm an uncouth brute, I have not watched most of the important things. 
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lornekates posted:The good news is it'd be cheap to film because instead of buying expensive sound equipment you just use the on-cam mic. Actually, POP QUIZ HOTSHOT had a real mic, except it's a shotgun mic (super directional) and there was only one so it didn't pick up what people were saying a lot of the time. So they ended up using the onboard mic audio for everyone anyway
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corn in the bible posted:Actually, POP QUIZ HOTSHOT had a real mic, except it's a shotgun mic (super directional) and there was only one so it didn't pick up what people were saying a lot of the time. So they ended up using the onboard mic audio for everyone anyway Its super-obvious that Tamara Chambers is using the same one in the cutaways that Brad Jones uses at the podium. I guess it gives the whole thing a kind of 70s Matchgame charm?
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e X posted:Honestly, that hub idea is amazing, because I dearly miss something like that. YouTubes recommended section just cant compete with a curated site of like indes people, though I dont think a Twitter account is the right way. Yeah, Twitter is pretty terrible for archiving. Wanna watch a specific video that's older than a week? Good luck finding it unless you know exactly what you're looking for. That said it's probably at least a decent place to start, then once the ball is rolling move on to actually creating a new site, which is what would really be what people are looking for. Bag on Channel Awesome all you want, it having forums and comments and archives and all the bells and whistles of a dedicated site was a major part of what made the community grow back in the day. We have more internet reviewers now than ever before but they're all spread out on YouTube with a select few hosting their own sites, usually holdovers from pre-CA days. Of course the benefits are obvious, the real question is who's gonna run it all?
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It might be time for a new thread I think. And this time we need an OP who can constantly update it with new channels and such.
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BigRed0427 posted:It might be time for a new thread I think. And this time we need an OP who can constantly update it with new channels and such. I mean, I can, but nobody was exactly requesting it until now so I didn't bother.
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Lets let this turn in discourse toward hostility to CA mark a new beginning for our discussion, too. A new thread that begins with a registry of people organizing alternatives is a good idea. Its hopeful, anyway.
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endolithic posted:I'm guessing she had to sign a non-compete clause since she was an actual employee? Yeah I just read Kim's post. Non compete clause are such bullshit.
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Internet Critic Discussion Thread 4.0 : A New HopeLinear Zoetrope posted:I mean, I can, but nobody was exactly requesting it until now so I didn't bother.
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corn in the bible posted:Actually, POP QUIZ HOTSHOT had a real mic, except it's a shotgun mic (super directional) and there was only one so it didn't pick up what people were saying a lot of the time. So they ended up using the onboard mic audio for everyone anyway The most surreal loving thing about this is that they had actual podium vocal mics on the contestant podiums but they still had Brad use a loving shotgun on a clip.
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Zedd posted:Internet Critic Discussion Thread 4.0 : A New Hope Go ahead
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Zedd posted:Internet Critic Discussion Thread 4.0 : A New Hope If you're gonna do up an OP here's a cursory updated list of Goon Approved Internet Critics for you / hastily copied OP from this thread: quote:Welcome to the Internet Critic Discussion Thread 4.0! nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Mar 19, 2018 |
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SatansBestBuddy posted:Joesph. Joe. No. The fact that a crashed ship is close to the cannon that shot it down on a planet is not that big a deal. If it was further away, then you'd never find it and it basically wouldn't exist, so what's the point you're trying to make? That you'd rather they not tell the story of how the ship crashed into this planet? gently caress it's not even a big plot hole, they can have more than one big rear end cannon, there's nothing that says it's the only one. Same goes for other crashed ships, like c'mon, do you want this game to tell you a story or not? His core point was that the plot is built on multiple layers of contrivance to get everything into this tiny area of the planet that is arbitrarily the only part with life and they didn't really do anything terribly interesting with it after building it on that foundation. They spent years in early access and the game is still an unoptimized mess with a disappointing ending, even though they apparently put a ton of work into it, and that's concerning. I don't think the Subnautica video is one of his best but the point wasn't just "it's silly that the ship landed next to the cannon." But then, I think he's right about both Odyssey and BOTW, so sue me.
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Good OP but do note that the AVGN thread to locked a long time ago.
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I'd also recommend The Great War, Sideways, Mother's Basement, Nerdwriter1 and Film Joy (formerly movies with Mikey) be added to the list.
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Some additions I would make -Ashens -Contrapoints -Errant Signal -Extra Credits -Movies with Mikey (Filmjoy on Youtube) -Jon Bois (Probably link the SB Nation account just in case. I think most of his stuff goes there.) -Kim Justice -LGR -Night Mind -Noah Caldwell-Gervais -Peter Coffin -Philosophy Tube -Shawn -Wisecrack -Jim loving Sterling Son (How could I forget.) BigRed0427 fucked around with this message at 01:35 on Mar 19, 2018 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:I'd also recommend The Great War, Sideways, Mother's Basement, Nerdwriter1 and Film Joy (formerly movies with Mikey) be added to the list. BigRed0427 posted:Some additions I would make I'll add all those in a bit. Keep em coming. EDIT: I'll also alphabetize the list aside from the All Stars so that it doesn't look like we're showing favoritism or just throwing poo poo in wherever and whatnot. Jimbot posted:Good OP but do note that the AVGN thread to locked a long time ago. I removed the link to the dead thread. nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 01:38 on Mar 19, 2018 |
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Are we keeping this to just Youtube? Because I also wanna recommend Laura Kate Dale. Shes mainly writes for Kotaku UK and her youtube channel is mainly a podcast her and a friend are doing now. gently caress! I also recommend Nyx Fears.
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THE BEST GAMERS is a must.
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I'd like to also throw the following in... Larry Bundy Jr. (Guru Larry) (Patreon) - HELLO YOU. Along with commenting on literally every YouTube video known to man, Guru Larry is also known for his "Fact Hunt" series where he compiles several related obscure bits of knowledge about video games into one video, and throws in a couple of jabs at Peter Molyneux for good measure. Also known for "Games Yanks Can't Wank", "Movie Mistakes" and even some time spent reviewing games on British TV back in the day. Daniel Ibbertson (DJ Slope's Game Room) (Patreon) - DJ Slope gave up a promising career as a DJ and Jackass-esque pain donkey on British TV (not a joke) to become a truly excellent reviewer and budding documentarian on YouTube. Known for his "Complete History" retro video game series, and "Kickscammers" where he goes into detail about some truly baffling attempts at crowdfunding. Nostalgia Nerd (Patreon) - UK-based YouTuber who has a great love for old computers and a beautiful, dulcet tone from the Eastern counties. Known for making incredibly long labour of love Story documentaries about old computers like the Amiga and Atari ST, as well as "UK Thrifts" (like LGR Thrifts but with more half-empty copies of Kerplunk!) and commentaries over old episodes of the almighty Bad Influence. Pushing Up Roses (Patreon) - Retro reviewer with a strong focus on point-and-clicks and other adventure titles, Roses is also well known for some really strong personal touches in her videos, and the odd bit of awesome fancy make-up. Also does the odd film review now and again, and is known for "Death In Video Games". If you like LucasArts and Sierra, then you've come to the right place. Ahoy (Patreon) - As his channel description says, insightful gaming content. Months pass between new Ahoy videos, but when he releases one it's an event. Some of the most painstakingly crafted, highly researched and brilliantly made longform video content you will find on YouTube. And his voice isn't half bad either...one of the very best. Often concentrates on first-person shooters, known for his long videos on Polybius, Quake and Doom as well as the "Iconic Arms" series. OSW Review (Patreon) - The best wrestling content on YouTube. Lengthy, hilarious but superbly researched PPV review videos from Jay, OOC, and V1 - your favourite trio of riotous Irishmen. Even if you don't like wrestling, OSW's videos are so well made and funny that they're worth watching, and there's so many great stories and detours that you wouldn't believe. Known for their chronological critique of the Hulkamania Era, amongst several other "story arcs", of which the Royal Rumble 2001 to Wrestlemania X-Seven run is probably the best. This Is Dan Bell (Patreon) - Is mostly found on Amazon Prime Video these days, but there's so much greatness to check out in the archives. Excellent filmmaker, urban explorer, lover of all the tattiest things about America. Ugly/Beautiful videos of faded glory and desolation, with serious vaporwave A E S T H E T I C S. Known for the "Another Dirty Room" series and the "Dead Mall" series. Techmoan (Patreon) - A channel focused on Retro Tech from a Northerner who's well and truly been around. Makes videos about many different things, but really focuses on old and new Hi-Fi equipment, forgotten music and video formats, and plenty of strange, almost unclassifiable curios. He demonstrates the products in the flesh, isn't afraid to get inside of them, and will spend months in pursuit of a video. His voice, presentation and love of hip-hop makes him quite possibly the single most relaxing and chilled out channel on the whole of YouTube. Kim Justice fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Mar 19, 2018 |
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