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sticklefifer posted:I know they needed it for a plot device, but having Simmons say that mere minutes after Deke's fear vision AND having Deke just happen to overhear the only time she's ever said it on the show was weak. It was definitely a bit too much on the nose but I'm sympathetic since it seems like if they had dragged it out and had Deke come to the realization a little more naturally we probably would have seen people complaining about the pacing. And with the short "pods" Agents of Shield works with they might have had to get Deke there quickly and that was the easiest way to really make it clique for him that doesn't have us questioning how he could get there so easily.
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:So where is Enoch now? In outer space with the other Fitz? Yes. JazzFlight posted:I think the writers want us all to forget that Enoch and Fitz' body are just chillin' in this timeline because it just gets too weird and paradoxy. Their time-travel stuff is all messed up with paradoxes unless they spell out very specific rules about each timeline existing in parallel dimensions where they don't necessarily wipe each other out. I guess we'll find out for sure at the end of the season if Deke disappears BttF-style or if he stays because his original timeline still exists in an alternate dimension. It's not a paradox until they succeed at changing something.
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JazzFlight posted:I think the writers want us all to forget that Enoch and Fitz' body are just chillin' in this timeline because it just gets too weird and paradoxy. Their time-travel stuff is all messed up with paradoxes unless they spell out very specific rules about each timeline existing in parallel dimensions where they don't necessarily wipe each other out. I guess we'll find out for sure at the end of the season if Deke disappears BttF-style or if he stays because his original timeline still exists in an alternate dimension. Yeah, I just don't think Agents of Shield is ever going to follow through into the depths of sci-fi reasoning and debate that it opened the door to with the last pod. I'm personally thankful/hopeful of that because its not my thing at all, but I get why others are deep into it now trying to figure out paradoxes and timelines and everything else. I would just be surprised of Shield ever really deep dives into that stuff because its obviously a much lighter show.
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They change the timeline. Fitz dies in the process. A grieving Jemma discovers Frozen Fritz but also learns she can never revive him or the old timeline reverts.
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Mar 19, 2018 19:59
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Or they could just change the timeline, have Deke stay and have someone point out that "hey guys this is an impossible paradox oh well that's wacky I guess". It's not like any of this makes sense in the first place. Sense went out the window the moment they started traveling in time.
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Mar 19, 2018 20:06
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It passed that mark a longer time back when Fitz was screaming that magic was impossible and made no sense and then a demon man opened a portal into hell to stop some ghosts. Fitz is basically the Agents of SHIELD standin for "hard scifi" reasoning that they let scream when poo poo stops making sense and then they lampshade it and move on.
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Mar 19, 2018 20:08
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STAC Goat posted:It passed that mark a longer time back when Fitz was screaming that magic was impossible and made no sense and then a demon man opened a portal into hell to stop some ghosts. "It's opened a portal to what I can only describe as some sort of fear-dimension" is an amazing line, because I can't tell whether it's the writer or the character who no longer gives a poo poo.
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Mar 19, 2018 21:24
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Strom Cuzewon posted:"It's opened a portal to what I can only describe as some sort of fear-dimension" is an amazing line, because I can't tell whether it's the writer or the character who no longer gives a poo poo. Fitz has been going non-stop from crisis to crisis for months now. I could totally understand him giving no shits about describing the science to anyone anymore.
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Mar 19, 2018 21:40
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Fitz has been bullshitting his explanations for a couple of years now and is just trying to keep everyone else from figuring that out. He doesn't want to be relegated to just the guy who makes robot limbs once Coulson realizes he has as little idea of what's happening as him.
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Strom Cuzewon posted:"It's opened a portal to what I can only describe as some sort of fear-dimension" is an amazing line, because I can't tell whether it's the writer or the character who no longer gives a poo poo. Wasn't it "Nightmare dimension." Not sure which is worse! Was that something that had been referenced before? Like did I just forget it from the GR season? Or is everyone just that blase about everything at this point that "when the interdimensional alien portal stones blew up it created a portal to a universe that manifests your worst fears as reality" was just another flying ship to them?
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Mar 19, 2018 22:23
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Pretty much. Aliens, Magic, LMDs, Demons from Hell, Time Travel. At some point you gotta just break down and stop questioning things. If you really want to think about it (you probably shouldn't) Fitz probably came to some terms of "there are other dimensions and doors can be opened to them during the Ghost Rider stuff to explain "open a gateway to Hell." Or as some basic understanding of all the monolith and Asgardian stuff.
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Mar 19, 2018 22:29
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homullus posted:Last week we learned that Ruby's powers include lipnosis. Between her big-rear end lips, and the Busey Teeth, there was a lot of looking at mouths going on in that episode.
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as a vessel by the writers to give us "agent's of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s greatest hits" it can be very interesting. So far though its use has been disappointing. A blink-and-you'll-miss it appearance of squidward and lash is meh as hell.
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Mar 20, 2018 00:00
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double nine posted:as a vessel by the writers to give us "agent's of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s greatest hits" it can be very interesting. So far though its use has been disappointing. A blink-and-you'll-miss it appearance of squidward and lash is meh as hell. “Bullets! My only weakness!”
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do we know if they even need lethal bullets? Have they tried other projectiles? Maybe paintguns or nerf guns would work just as well?
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Past Fitz was captured by the general so he is probably locked up on that base with Ruby and VonStrucker if they arrived back at the same time they left. But they have to have arrived back at least six months after they left because Zephyr 1 is parked where Past Fitz left it when he went to the light house after stealing the cryo-sleep pod. But Hunter and the girl who sees the future aren't in the Lighthouse where Past Fitz left them. So who knows. In conclusion time travel never fully makes sense. double nine posted:do we know if they even need lethal bullets? Have they tried other projectiles? Maybe paintguns or nerf guns would work just as well? They've stabbed a few of the things. The real question is why does anything "kill" a physical manifestation of a fear dimension?
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sunday at work posted:They've stabbed a few of the things. The real question is why does anything "kill" a physical manifestation of a fear dimension? Straight out guess - the person "killing" it has to believe that they have killed it.
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OB_Juan posted:Straight out guess - the person "killing" it has to believe that they have killed it. It's like a portal spitting out perpetual Pennywises. Yikes.
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double nine posted:So far though its use has been disappointing. A blink-and-you'll-miss it appearance of squidward and lash is meh as hell. I wondered whether they were re-using CGI they'd already paid for and didn't want it to be too obvious.
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Cocks Cable posted:They change the timeline. Fitz dies in the process. A grieving Jemma discovers Frozen Fritz but also learns she can never revive him or the old timeline reverts. 
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This episode left me with one burning question How the gently caress did they de-age and then make sane Gary Busey? Seriously I know it's not him but holy gently caress if anyone was ever destined to play Gary Busey in a biopic.. ED: Holy poo poo that was Gary Busey's son? Holy fuckballs. I never even realized he was Ace from Starship Troopers. But man, talk about basically being his father's son. You could drop him in Predator 2 digitally and I'd probably not question it. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 12:58 on Mar 20, 2018 |
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Mar 20, 2018 12:56
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Blazing Ownager posted:This episode left me with one burning question I had the same reaction when I first learned that years ago too.
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Blazing Ownager posted:This episode left me with one burning question Missed the perfect line for him and Mack. "Everybody needs a friend like me."
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Mar 20, 2018 13:27
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Jake Busey's best role was The Frighteners and I won't hear otherwise
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Jake Busey is not Gary Busey.
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Yeah, you can tell them apart but Jake inherited the family teeth and it's hard to see anything else.
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Medullah posted:Jake Busey's best role was The Frighteners and I won't hear otherwise  An under-appreciated classic.
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Medullah posted:Jake Busey's best role was The Frighteners and I won't hear otherwise PCU. Also Jon Favreau's best role
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Azhais posted:PCU. Also Jon Favreau's best role Any movie with Jeffrey Combs is a good watch, even his lovely direct to video stuff.
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PierreTheMime posted:
God I loved this flick as a kid. The grim reaper ghost thing looked so cool. I'm a little scared to watch it again because I don't know if the fx and stuff still hold up
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I think it holds up pretty well considering it's 20+ years old at this point. It's like a better version of Ghostbusters-style special effects.
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BlackJosh posted:God I loved this flick as a kid. The grim reaper ghost thing looked so cool. I'm a little scared to watch it again because I don't know if the fx and stuff still hold up It was in the era where everything CGI was a little too “shiny” but otherwise it looks fine for the time. A fun movie with some nice twists. Probably the highest budget film Jefffrey Combs was ever involved in. PierreTheMime fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Mar 21, 2018 |
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Yea I watched it recently, holds up real good.
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PierreTheMime posted:It was in the era where everything CGI was a little too “shiny” but otherwise it looks fine for the time. A fun movie with some nice twists. Probably be highest budget film Jefffrey Combs was ever involved in. The scene where Jeffrey Combs gets his head blown up and the ghost head is there instantly is still one of my all time favorite scenes.
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Open Source Idiom posted:I suspect it's the other way around. Creel's only in this because they've got something on him. Otherwise he'd just absorb some concrete and tell them to piss off the hard way.
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Is Creel a "good guy" or is he just not an "evil guy" along the lines of SHIELD's typical Nazi/Apocalyptic/Eugenic/Slavetrading villains? Its been awhile and I can't really remember.
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STAC Goat posted:Is Creel a "good guy" or is he just not an "evil guy" along the lines of SHIELD's typical Nazi/Apocalyptic/Eugenic/Slavetrading villains? he's a low level thug leg breaker. In Netflix Marvel he'd probably be as much of a hero as Frank is. On AoS he's more a wild card tweener.
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Yeah, that's the way I remembered it. He's a "bad guy" but he's not like psychotic or evil or anything. So he's small change to the people SHIELD deals with and I kind of expect that if Hale gets too evil he'll tap out. He's perfectly positioned for the "actually reforms with the Thunderbolts" role. Well not the "as much of a hero as Punisher" thing. Did Creel do some vigilantism or justice crime spree that I don't remember?
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Creel was introduced as an absorption junkie who did jobs in exchange for materials he could morph into, so he’s pretty much a gun-for-hire type.
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I believe his last appearance was him acting as a bodyguard for Talbot. I don't remember the dialogue but I remember getting the impression that he had reformed or wanted to reform.
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