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Speaking of weird gifts, Spencer's at the everett mall used to have some really neat weird poo poo 15 years ago, but I went there on a lark a few months ago and it was all halloween masks, anime merchandise, goth merchandise, party lighting and adult gift cards. It's bizarre how much anime in particular has infected the place. I almost bought a one punch man wallet. Oh, and something from the unicorn thread of all places: https://www.seattletimes.com/seattl...on-report-says/ I knew everett freeway traffic was bad, but I didn't think it was literally the worst in the nation. We're known for something other than boeing now!
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Freakazoid_ posted:Speaking of weird gifts, Spencer's at the everett mall used to have some really neat weird poo poo 15 years ago, but I went there on a lark a few months ago and it was all halloween masks, anime merchandise, goth merchandise, party lighting and adult gift cards. It's bizarre how much anime in particular has infected the place. I almost bought a one punch man wallet. One of my friends commutes from Marysville to Redmond each day, and even starting at 6am he needs to leave at 4:30am to get there in time. This is another reason I am glad that my job has limited work from home, but for my next job I want something within a few miles if possible.
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These two articles are a few months old, but still... https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewdepietro/2017/12/28/cost-of-living-is-surging-in-these-major-cities-and-what-it-could-mean-for-2018/#4929663871c6 https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/cost-of-living-will-soar-in-these-10-cities-in-2018-300572197.html Should I be worried as a PDXer? IIRC, rent costs were flat YoY in 2017.
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No. A 5% increase in rent isn't a big deal considering average rent in DFW went up by ~10% each in 2017 and 2016
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punk rebel ecks posted:Should I be worried as a PDXer? It depends on your financial situation but it's not great. That said - I moved last October and it was a lot easier to lock down a place than it was last time I moved in July 2015. So according to my two entirely anecdotal data points we're maybe past the worst of it. Especially if the economy crashes and the tech bubble pops. I certainly wouldn't try to buy right now though.
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Cyberpunkey Monkey posted:No. A 5% increase in rent isn't a big deal considering average rent in DFW went up by ~10% each in 2017 and 2016 "DFW"?
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punk rebel ecks posted:These two articles are a few months old, but still... 
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punk rebel ecks posted:"DFW"? I'm guessing he means Dallas-Forth Worth.
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punk rebel ecks posted:These two articles are a few months old, but still... Cyberpunkey Monkey posted:No. A 5% increase in rent isn't a big deal considering average rent in DFW went up by ~10% each in 2017 and 2016
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anthonypants posted:jesus christ do people really believe a ~5% raise is considered "flat" now No, I was referring to these sites I looked at before: https://www.rentcafe.com/average-rent-market-trends/us/or/portland/ https://www.rentcafe.com/blog/rental-market/apartment-rent-report/portland-metro-area-2017-rent-retrospect/ https://www.rentjungle.com/average-rent-in-portland-or-rent-trends/ This is why that one article had me scratching my head.
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Cyberpunkey Monkey posted:No. A 5% increase in rent isn't a big deal considering average rent in DFW went up by ~10% each in 2017 and 2016 yes the great signalpost of the pacific northwest, dallas fort worth
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punk rebel ecks posted:No, I was referring to these sites I looked at before:
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The point is that it's not out of line with what all of the rent seekers in the US are doing to further crush the poor's ability to live their lives.
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anthonypants posted:You're literally using the average numbers provided by a website which is currently advertising a $200/month 1-bedroom apartment on the Burnside Bridge. You're really cherry picking as there is only one other listing like that in that site (someone probably meant $200 per week anyway). It's also in-line with other sites as well.
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My lovely little duplex went up about 65 bucks a month this past year so yeah, rent is pretty hosed in Portland. What's your average 1 bedroom in the city right now, 1350?
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Cyberpunkey Monkey posted:The point is that it's not out of line with what all of the rent seekers in the US are doing to further crush the poor's ability to live their lives. punk rebel ecks posted:You're really cherry picking as there is only one other listing like that in that site (someone probably meant $200 per week anyway). It's also in-line with other sites as well. https://www.rent2ownusa.com/search.html?adid=R2OU1066&custzip=97220&propertyid=426123971 http://www.hapdx.org/home-forward/reports https://www.walkscore.com/score/1905-se-morrison-st-portland-or-97214 http://portland.backpage.com/ApartmentsForRent/office-space-available-in-historic-abbey-house-in-hawthorne-district/26338437 http://www.rmaoregon.com/pricing/ https://showmojo.com/l/65f8ed10ea/?lead_source=rentjungle.com I'm sorry you don't know how to identify a scam website. e: and it's actually $200/day https://www.sublet.com/spider/supplydetails.asp?source=10510&supplyid=607898 ee: yes it's not the same location on the map. here's the rent jungle dot com listing for that burnside bridge one https://www.rentjungle.com/200-1-bedroom-in-rockford-portland-downtown-rental-details/a4e2157e311706307b5a92aaad0080e7/ and here's one that says it's in the pearl but is clearly in oklahoma city https://www.rentjungle.com/apartmen...c7e948f7fa38f7/ it is a bad website anthonypants fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Mar 17, 2018 |
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Okay well here's another site: https://www.pressherald.com/2017/10/30/local-rents-level-off-but-still-unaffordable-for-many/
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punk rebel ecks posted:Okay well here's another site: https://www.pressherald.com/2017/10/30/local-rents-level-off-but-still-unaffordable-for-many/
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I do get a sense that the Portland housing market has both cooled off to some extent but virtue no one can afford the rent since here just isn't enough decently paying jobs in the region to support historically high prices. To be honest, the Portland of 2018 does seem a bit of a pastiche of its earlier self, and most of its central neighborhoods have been hollowed out by condos and expensive themed bars (ie 1890s styled mixology places with 12 dollar cocktails). The city somehow even feels even whiter by trending upper middle class rather than down and out working class. Ardennes fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Mar 19, 2018 |
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Ardennes posted:I do get a sense that the Portland housing market has both cooled off to some extent but virtue no one can afford the rent since here just isn't enough decently paying jobs in the region to support historically high prices. When you force all of the black people east of city limits that tends to make the city whiter.
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therobit posted:When you force all of the black people east of city limits that tends to make the city whiter. Granted, it is both a racial change AND a class change, not only is the skin of the residents whiter but that it has increasingly been marked by wealthy (white) people who honestly don't give a poo poo about the city's culture or history. You can see it in the city's music culture, housing and much of its nightlife. Anyone remember Blue Monk? Portland was always (too?) white, but I think the Portland of arguably now nearly completely whitebread culturally.
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Ardennes posted:Granted, it is both a racial change AND a class change, not only is the skin of the residents whiter but that it has increasingly been marked by wealthy (white) people who honestly don't give a poo poo about the city's culture or history. You can see it in the city's music culture, housing and much of its nightlife. Anyone remember Blue Monk? The city is technically less white. Especially with the youth. But yeah it could be significantly less white if the blacks weren't pushed East and the Latinos weren't pushed West. To fair, you can find events that cater to minorities in the city. They're out there, it's just that do to different preferences and cultures these events tend to self segregate to a degree.
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punk rebel ecks posted:The city is technically less white. Especially with the youth. But yeah it could be significantly less white if the blacks weren't pushed East and the Latinos weren't pushed West. Admittedly, I am talking more about the SE/NE bubble which increasingly lacks the more racially AND economically diverse neighborhoods in the rest of the city. (Also NW/SW Portland pretty continued to be upper middle class and white. If anything Beaverton is more diverse.) But yeah the 82nd street corridor does exist, and also exists a pretty large Ukrainian/Russian population around Lents that is pretty much unknown unless you really work to find them (they are white...but very much live in a separate world). If anything central Portland, for the most part, has become more bland and uniform, while the rest of the metro has become comparatively more diverse.
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Ardennes posted:Admittedly, I am talking more about the SE/NE bubble which increasingly lacks the more racially AND economically diverse neighborhoods in the rest of the city. (Also NW/SW Portland pretty continued to be upper middle class and white. If anything Beaverton is more diverse.) Yeah. I used to canvass for the city and the minorities tended to appear close to the city limits. Especially in the Northeast. But yeah I am at the the limit of Portland that borders Beaverton and it's surprising how many Latinos are around here relative to the other parts of the city. That said, if you believe the worst of housing is over,what do you make of that article I posted that Portland CoL is predicted by a place to increase the most of any American city in 2018?
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punk rebel ecks posted:Yeah. I used to canvass for the city and the minorities tended to appear close to the city limits. Especially in the Northeast. But yeah I am at the the limit of Portland that borders Beaverton and it's surprising how many Latinos are around here relative to the other parts of the city. No one knows. Portland has a lot going for it, so maybe? Why does it matter? Rents will either go up or stay the same, and short of legislation there isn't anything you or I can do about it.
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Washington apparently has county-level primary caucuses coming up this weekend. I forgot that only general elections were mail-in. Blahhh.
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Caucuses are such poo poo and I never want to participate in one again.
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Pander posted:Washington apparently has county-level primary caucuses coming up this weekend. I forgot that only general elections were mail-in.
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Thanatosian posted:From the looks of it, those are mostly internal party things, like electing delegates to the platform committee and such, though much information is difficult to find (at least, for my LD). The person calling me was "hey show up so we can push bernie's glorious revolution over centrism in our state". Hookay.
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From what I have heard, the huge explosion was fueled by an entirely rosey view of the city in a few key huge metropolitan areas, and they've gotten the message that at least: 1) We don't want them, and we hate the people who moved here in the first wave 2) The city has changed, and some of the shine is dulled 3) There are other cities taking up some of the slack There will be a steady stream of dumb white motherfuckers moving here for donuts and cheap(er) housing but it should slow a bit. What this city needs is a steady diet of Antifa riots and to raise the salaries of leadership enough that anyone competent would run.
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seiferguy posted:Caucuses are such poo poo and I never want to participate in one again. gently caress caucuses. Nothing more anti-democratic than forcing people to be at a specific place and time and sit around for hours listening to people drone on, beg for money and abuse Roberts Rules of Order.
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on the rents going up subject, next time i move with my family we will probably have to move 20 or 30 minutes south of where we live now to find something of a similar size we can afford. Pretty hosed up since I've pretty much lived here my whole life but wages + having kids means we are living paycheck to paycheck as it is and our rent seems to go up ~$100 every 12 months which is pretty unsustainable. Fingers crossed some of our 'progressive' local politicians will do something other than argue that they can't do anything because 'reasons' and let our city manager poo poo all over poor people and gentrify the gently caress out of our city.
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Doorknob Slobber posted:on the rents going up subject, next time i move with my family we will probably have to move 20 or 30 minutes south of where we live now to find something of a similar size we can afford. Pretty hosed up since I've pretty much lived here my whole life but wages + having kids means we are living paycheck to paycheck as it is and our rent seems to go up ~$100 every 12 months which is pretty unsustainable. Fingers crossed some of our 'progressive' local politicians will do something other than argue that they can't do anything because 'reasons' and let our city manager poo poo all over poor people and gentrify the gently caress out of our city.
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IM DAY DAY IRL posted:I thought this thread had moved on from DSA chat Naw man this is straight up Democratic party nonsense.
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seiferguy posted:Naw man this is straight up Democratic party nonsense.
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All parties will devolve into bureaucratic nonsense in short order, simply because they are filled with people. And that is what large groups of people do. That or kill each other.
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seiferguy posted:Naw man this is straight up Democratic party nonsense. Based on following DSA Twitter, this is exactly why I have no interest in participating in the organization. I dont know if I want some Maoist nerd lecturing me about rules of order and debate or some poo poo.
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