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Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
The really creepy thing about RPO is the disconnect between the fantasy and the source material. I think everybody when they were a kid wanted to meet the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles or go to Hogwarts or whatever. But you grow up and realize that it's impossible. Ernest Cline still has those fantasies, but his knowledge of reality has twisted them into something infinitely sadder. He knows the Ninja Turtles aren't real, but he still wants to hang out with them. So his fantasy is to hang out with simulacra of the Ninja Turtles. All the stuff in Ready Player One is player-created replicas of pop culture things, not the actual things. So his fantasy isn't to meet the characters he loved as a child, it's to decorate his room with cardboard standees of them. He doesn't want the time machine from Back to the Future, he wants a car that looks like the time machine from Back to the Future. It's a fantasy with all of the magic of childhood stripped away, but also without the maturity or responsibility of adulthood.

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RoboRodent
Sep 19, 2012


Late, but look at this idiot who thinks animals don't masturbate. Sometimes even without hands!

Guy Goodbody posted:


"When the movies were screening, we had many male fans who got into Gundam via Gunpla come to see it. Meanwhile, the girls who had been fans since the TV series aired got together to create their own world via fanzines. The fans, never interacting with each other, existed on separate planes."

As someone who was a teenage girl in the nineties, the world the girls were creating was frequently about making gundam pilots bone each other.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Guy Goodbody posted:

The really creepy thing about RPO is the disconnect between the fantasy and the source material. I think everybody when they were a kid wanted to meet the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles or go to Hogwarts or whatever. But you grow up and realize that it's impossible. Ernest Cline still has those fantasies, but his knowledge of reality has twisted them into something infinitely sadder. He knows the Ninja Turtles aren't real, but he still wants to hang out with them. So his fantasy is to hang out with simulacra of the Ninja Turtles. All the stuff in Ready Player One is player-created replicas of pop culture things, not the actual things. So his fantasy isn't to meet the characters he loved as a child, it's to decorate his room with cardboard standees of them. He doesn't want the time machine from Back to the Future, he wants a car that looks like the time machine from Back to the Future. It's a fantasy with all of the magic of childhood stripped away, but also without the maturity or responsibility of adulthood.

Honestly, that has the potential to be the setup for some good psychological horror

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

RoboRodent posted:

As someone who was a teenage girl in the nineties, the world the girls were creating was frequently about making gundam pilots bone each other.

Char and Amuro had a very intense relationship

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

The worst thing about Ready Player One is people derailing every loving thread at the barest mention of it. Time to get over a book existing that you don't like folks.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

You know, I don't know if the book references it, but if the movie were to change things up and suddenly pull out a CGI Smoke from Cartoon All-Stars To The Rescue as a major antagonist, I guess that would kind of be legitimately cool for a few seconds.

Zereth
Jul 9, 2003



Guy Goodbody posted:

He doesn't want the time machine from Back to the Future, he wants a car that looks like the time machine from Back to the Future.
He actually owns one, with a Mr Fusion prop on the back and poo poo, but it's also got Ghostbusters poo poo painted on it.

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit
RPO has long portions of the book that are literally just lists of the things Ernest Cline likes. Just hey, here's a list of some things but I couldn't be bothered to pull the wiki entry and paste it into the book, oh well.

Also something about it that's been bothering me lately is that in the final battle the Iron Giant gets name checked as fighting for the good guys. The character who spent an entire movie learning that he doesn't have to be a weapon and doesn't have to fight gets called in as an ultimate warrior. Ernest Cline's ability to miss the point about everything is astounding, but you'd think he could at least grasp the moral of a simple kid's movie.

It's been said a before, none of it is written with love for the material, but simply to check the box of "I've seen this and so should you, if only because someone else says it's good or important."

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe

I don't know if I've ever wanted a movie to fail more

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:

Also something about it that's been bothering me lately is that in the final battle the Iron Giant gets name checked as fighting for the good guys. The character who spent an entire movie learning that he doesn't have to be a weapon and doesn't have to fight gets called in as an ultimate warrior. Ernest Cline's ability to miss the point about everything is astounding, but you'd think he could at least grasp the moral of a simple kid's movie.

While I do agree with you, gently caress you for making me think of the Iron Giant at work.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

ElGroucho posted:

I don't know if I've ever wanted a movie to fail more
Pixels did. That struck me as a similar focus grouped cash grab.

Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer

UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:

RPO has long portions of the book that are literally just lists of the things Ernest Cline likes. Just hey, here's a list of some things but I couldn't be bothered to pull the wiki entry and paste it into the book, oh well.

Also something about it that's been bothering me lately is that in the final battle the Iron Giant gets name checked as fighting for the good guys. The character who spent an entire movie learning that he doesn't have to be a weapon and doesn't have to fight gets called in as an ultimate warrior. Ernest Cline's ability to miss the point about everything is astounding, but you'd think he could at least grasp the moral of a simple kid's movie.

It's been said a before, none of it is written with love for the material, but simply to check the box of "I've seen this and so should you, if only because someone else says it's good or important."

Reposting this because it's so perfect.

https://twitter.com/electrolemon/status/971208968323280896

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit

Zereth posted:

He actually owns one, with a Mr Fusion prop on the back and poo poo, but it's also got Ghostbusters poo poo painted on it.

He literally drives the car he describes his character as having in the book.





SpacePig
Apr 4, 2007

Hold that pose.
I've gotta get something.
^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
Christ alive I hadn't seen the interior before. Wow, what a goddamn embarrassment.

UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:

Also something about it that's been bothering me lately is that in the final battle the Iron Giant gets name checked as fighting for the good guys. The character who spent an entire movie learning that he doesn't have to be a weapon and doesn't have to fight gets called in as an ultimate warrior. Ernest Cline's ability to miss the point about everything is astounding, but you'd think he could at least grasp the moral of a simple kid's movie.

Yeah, I can do with Nostalgia Namecheck: The Movie fine enough, even if I don't like it. But having the Iron Giant come in as not just sort of cool hang-out setpiece, but an active combatant, really gets me. I love the goddamn Iron Giant, and using him as a fighter in a movie so completely misses the point about the character that it's almost ridiculous.

Near as I can tell, this movie is just Gamemaster Anthony's Birthday meets Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny, and I mean both of those in the worst way possible.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:

He literally drives the car he describes his character as having in the book.







It's such a pathetically halfassed pass at everything it's referencing. Just a really low effort job.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Two things:

One, every time I see a picture of this guy I really want to give him a swirlee.

Two, I like how he's trying to be cool, and the kids at the high school are just ignoring him.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:

He literally drives the car he describes his character as having in the book.



ECTO88? I never thought I could like that dude less, but I guess I wasn't expecting him to also be a nazi

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

I love all the RP1 derails because it brings out the "heh yeah guys rp1 isn't great literature but it was a fun book and I'm kinda looking forward to the movie, uh, ironically!" posters to let everyone know they have zero taste and are deeply embarrassing people.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.
My friend used to own a Delorean. That car sucked and we were constantly fixing things with it. Also you can't go through drive through windows because the windows don't roll down so you have to open the stupid loving doors to pick up White Castle at 2am in the winter.

Orbs
Apr 1, 2009
~Liberation~

Samuringa posted:

And second, let's not forget Ernest Cline's magnum opus:
Ernest Cline Nerd Porn Auteur Lyrics

I've noticed that there don't seem to be any porno movies
that are made for guys like me.

All the porn I've come across
was targeted at beer-swilling sports bar dwelling alpha-males
Men who like their women stupid and submissive
Men who can only get it up for monosyllabic cock-hungry nymphos
with gargantuan breasts and a three-word vocabulary

Adult films are populated with these collagen-injected
liposuctioned women
Many of whom have resorted to surgery and self-mutilation
in an attempt to look the way they have been told to look.

These aren't real women. They're objects.
And these movies aren't erotic. They're pathetic.
These vacuum-headed gently caress bunnies don't turn me on.
They disgust me.
And it's not that I'm against pornography.
I mean, I'm a guy. And guys need porn.
Fact.
"Like a preacher needs pain, like a needle needs a vein,"
Guys need porn.

But I don't wanna watch this misogynist he-man woman-hater porn.
I want porno movies that are made with guys like me in mind:
Guys who know that the sexiest thing in the world
is a woman who is smarter than you are.

You can have the whole cheerleading squad,
I want the girl in the tweed skirt and the horn-rimmed glasses:
Betty Finnebowski, the valedictorian.
Oh yes.
First I want to copy her Trig homework,
and then I want to make mad, passionate love to her
for hours and hours
until she reluctantly asks if we can stop
because she doesn't want to miss Battlestar Galactica.
Summa cum laude, baby!
That is what I call erotic.

But do you ever see that kind of a woman in a contemporary adult film?
No.
Which is why I'm going to start writing and directing Geek porno.
I shall be the quintessential Nerd porn Auteur.
And the women in my porno movies will be the kind
that drive nerds like me mad with desire.

I'm talking about the girls that used to gently caress up the grading curve.
The girls in the Latin Club and the National Honor Society.
Chicks with weird clothes, braces, four eyes, and 4.0 GPAs.
Brainy articulate bookworms, with MENSA cards in their purses
and chips on their shoulders.

My porn starlets will come in all shapes and sizes.
My porn starlets will be too busy working on their PhD to go to the gym.

In my kind of porno movies the girls wouldn't even have to get naked.
They'd just take the guys down to the rec room and
beat them repeatedly at chess
and then talk to them for hours about Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle
or the underlying social metaphors in the Aliens movies.

Buy stock in some hand cream companies
because there is about to be a major shortage.

And I'm not just talking about straight porn. Oh no.
There should be gently caress films for my nerd brethren
of all sexual orientations.
Gay nerd porn flicks with titles like "Dungeons and Drag-queens."

This idea is a loving gold mine.
I am gonna make millions,
because this country is full of database programmers
and electronics engineers
and they aren't getting the loving they so desperately need.
And you can help . . .

If you're an intelligent woman who is interested in breaking into the adult film industry,
and if you can tell me the name of Luke Skywalker's home planet,
then you are hired.

It doesn't matter if you think you're overweight or unattractive.
It doesn't matter if you don't think you're beautiful.
You are beautiful. . .
And I will make you a star.

I know he was so proud of this that he recorded a reading of it himself but all my Google searches only give me dead links. Maybe someone will be luckier.

http://www.ernestcline.com/spokenword/npa.htm

Not technically a picture, I know, but very funny.

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.

RoboRodent posted:

As someone who was a teenage girl in the nineties, the world the girls were creating was frequently about making gundam pilots bone each other.

All the pilots in Gundam Wing being extremely pretty boys suddenly makes a lot more sense.

Aleph Null
Jun 10, 2008

You look very stressed
Tortured By Flan
The trailer for RP1 looks like a good and fun movie that I will gladly stream on Netflix in 6 months. I have no desire to read the book.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

1stGear posted:

All the pilots in Gundam Wing being extremely pretty boys suddenly makes a lot more sense.

Duo Maxwell, God of Death (and my wife's heart).

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Solice Kirsk posted:

My friend used to own a Delorean. That car sucked and we were constantly fixing things with it. Also you can't go through drive through windows because the windows don't roll down so you have to open the stupid loving doors to pick up White Castle at 2am in the winter.
The Delorean is absolute garbage and if it hadn't been for BTTF it would have been nothing but a footnote in the large book of ill conceived automotive failures.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




slavic cat time










Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?

I bet making all but the most shallow turns with that steering "wheel" is horrible and embarrassing to watch.

I read the book a few years ago and thought it was fun. However I did find it funny that, had the bad guys won, a large segment of the people using the OASIS would no longer be able to afford it. The upshot of that was that they would have to unplug from their pointless fantasy world and reconnect with the real world they'd been ignoring and neglecting for years. RP1 is basically the matrix except the machines are the good guys.

That being said, I'll probably take my 12 year old to see it. He really liked the book.

SneezeOfTheDecade
Feb 6, 2011

gettin' covid all
over your posts




RabbitWizard
Oct 21, 2008

Muldoon
This one could be a good response for the stupid kermit-tea-meme.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!

Iron Crowned posted:

Two things:

One, every time I see a picture of this guy I really want to give him a swirlee.

Two, I like how he's trying to be cool, and the kids at the high school are just ignoring him.

It's this but real life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZjviMmXIY8

You
Oct 6, 2009

Scratch Monkey posted:

I bet making all but the most shallow turns with that steering "wheel" is horrible and embarrassing to watch.

There is a Youtube "review" of driving a replica of K.I.T.T. and the guy doing the review is stoked as hell and playing up the experience until he got to drive it and soon realized that it's pretty much the absolute worst steering wheel imaginable. It's hard to take turns and uncomfortable to hold. The guy who made the replica agreed, saying that it's terrible to drive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93VlRnRPk9k&t=210s

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

Solice Kirsk posted:

My friend used to own a Delorean. That car sucked and we were constantly fixing things with it. Also you can't go through drive through windows because the windows don't roll down so you have to open the stupid loving doors to pick up White Castle at 2am in the winter.

Same, but then one time he was driving it on the interstate when the engine burst into flame and melted the steel body.

Samuringa
Mar 27, 2017

Best advice I was ever given?

"Ticker, you'll be a lot happier once you stop caring about the opinions of a culture that is beneath you."

I learned my worth, learned the places and people that matter.

Opened my eyes.








Elysiume
Aug 13, 2009

Alone, she fights.

Scratch Monkey posted:

That being said, I'll probably take my 12 year old to see it. He really liked the book.
:sever:

Zereth
Jul 9, 2003



... What logo is that on the steering wheel?

Fake edit:

You posted:

There is a Youtube "review" of driving a replica of K.I.T.T. and the guy doing the review is stoked as hell and playing up the experience until he got to drive it and soon realized that it's pretty much the absolute worst steering wheel imaginable. It's hard to take turns and uncomfortable to hold. The guy who made the replica agreed, saying that it's terrible to drive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93VlRnRPk9k&t=210s
Oh. Jesus christ.

Collateral Damage posted:

The Delorean is absolute garbage and if it hadn't been for BTTF it would have been nothing but a footnote in the large book of ill conceived automotive failures.
I believe that was supposed to be the joke in the original Back to the Future: the Delorean was known primary as a lovely car, so Doc Brown building his time machine on one was a real "stupid rear end mad scientist" thing to do. I haven't seen the film in a while but I think there's even a "You made a time machine out of a delorean??" line in there.

And then the movie turned out to be extremely popular, and here we are.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.
Yeah, the joke was that Doc didn't understand what "style" was so essentially picked the 80's version of a Pinto to turn into a time machine.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Solice Kirsk posted:

Yeah, the joke was that Doc didn't understand what "style" was so essentially picked the 80's version of a Pinto to turn into a time machine.

I thought he picked it it because it was made out of aluminum making it a better choice vs all the steel cars. I know I read this in some lovely back to the future book I read when I was 9.

EDIT: Guess not haha

quote:

According to this article at backtothefuture.com:

Thanks to the stainless steel construction of the DeLorean, flux dispersal is generated at an optimum level from the Flux Capacitor, providing the entire vehicle and its passengers a smooth passage through the space-time continuum during temporal displacement.

Thats the cannon.

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

Zereth posted:


I believe that was supposed to be the joke in the original Back to the Future: the Delorean was known primary as a lovely car, so Doc Brown building his time machine on one was a real "stupid rear end mad scientist" thing to do. I haven't seen the film in a while but I think there's even a "You made a time machine out of a delorean??" line in there.

And then the movie turned out to be extremely popular, and here we are.



Marty McFly: Wait a minute. Wait a minute, Doc. Ah... Are you telling me that you built a time machine... out of a DeLorean?

Dr. Emmett Brown: The way I see it, if you're gonna build a time machine into a car, why not do it with some *style?*



DeLoreans were definitely cool looking, and got a lot of notice for their design, but were universally panned for their performance.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Zereth posted:

I believe that was supposed to be the joke in the original Back to the Future: the Delorean was known primary as a lovely car, so Doc Brown building his time machine on one was a real "stupid rear end mad scientist" thing to do. I haven't seen the film in a while but I think there's even a "You made a time machine out of a delorean??" line in there.

And then the movie turned out to be extremely popular, and here we are.

Yeah, I really wouldn't know how lovely Deloreans were until this thread.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

MarcusSA posted:

I thought he picked it it because it was made out of aluminum making it a better choice vs all the steel cars. I know I read this in some lovely back to the future book I read when I was 9.

The panels were stainless steel

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SpacePig
Apr 4, 2007

Hold that pose.
I've gotta get something.
He picked a car that looked cool, and that came with stainless steel body panels as a default, which I think was important to time travel in a way that wasn't explained more fully than "They're important". The car itself barely keeps up with a car from the 50s, and only gets good when it starts flying and is functionally no longer a real DeLorean.

e: Beaten, that's what I get for having a reply window left open. Whatever.

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