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H.P. Hovercraft posted:remember when they wanted everyone's phone numbers for "security purposes" and then turned around and sold them to advertisers lol btw are they still looking to have everyone send in all their nudes "to combat revenge porn" ??
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infernal machines posted:there's "known" and known. i.e. people who don't follow tech in any meaningful way but exist on twitter are now becoming aware of it, where previously it was just nerds who sounded like nsa conspiracy theorists from the 90s* when they talked about it don't dox me. in the pre Snowden era people rolled their eyes so hard they got seizures if you said anything about state actors monitoring online traffic, exploiting your IT infrastructure or using your phone as a bug. I literally got laughed out of a boardroom for suggesting the C-levels should leave their phone in a metal box outside if they were to discuss the possibility of dealing with companies affiliated with countries embargoed by the US. This was at a upper mid tier sized company with a footprint in multiple "critical infrastructure" industries. I'm still sad that I wasn't there the next morning when the US ambassador turned up on short notice to ask the company's president if they'd like to lose their operating licenses in every NATO state.
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:libertarianism is common with programmers bc programming enables antisocial personality types to acquire a lot of money, and antisocial people who live comfortable, secure lives tend to be assholes who resent the government telling them what to do or making them pay taxes
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Jonny 290 posted:Not gonna lie, if you're a tech worker i judge you
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blue apron is going to get bought by somebody or go out of businessquote:HelloFresh reported increased revenue and decreased losses in its earnings report today — pushing it further ahead of its U.S. competitor Blue Apron. Yesterday, HelloFresh also announced it acquired organic meal kit company Green Chef, expanding its dietary options and its threat to competitors.
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Media Bloodbath posted:don't dox me. Every newbie that shows up asks "but why don't you have `domain.ly` considering that your name is literally domainly?" "Because Libya" is Legal's answer every time.
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I hope the EU sues dataexchanges and FB into oblivion.
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Media Bloodbath posted:I hope the EU sues dataexchanges and FB into oblivion. but that makes shaggar cry lol
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I remember hearing rumors about the "closet nobody's allowed in" at every colo/data center in like 1998, I'd assume multiple governments have basically parallel copies of the internet running
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qirex posted:I remember hearing rumors about the "closet nobody's allowed in" at every colo/data center in like 1998, I'd assume multiple governments have basically parallel copies of the internet running port mirroring is pretty neat
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Jonny 290 posted:port mirroring is pretty neat TAPs > mirror ports
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passive light taps heh
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qirex posted:blue apron is going to get bought by somebody or go out of business doesn’t blue apron have some insanely high customer acquisition cost, something like $100+ per customer? and their average subscription length is like 2 months, never making their acquisition cost back?
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FCKGW posted:doesn’t blue apron have some insanely high customer acquisition cost, something like $100+ per customer? and their average subscription length is like 2 months, never making their acquisition cost back?
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what I always find terrifying about Facebook is when those “Facebook is listing to your microphone!” stories pop up. it’s been debunked by multiple security researchers but people still believe it because if you explain that “no, they’re actually just that drat good at mining you and your friends data and habits that they can predict your thoughts when you think them”, they can’t wrap their heads around that level of privacy erosion that they’d rather believe the phones are bugged.
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lol @ zuck's half-assed apology. remember when it came out that apple was pro-actively spying on their partners to ensure compliance and called uber's ceo in for a "chat"?
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how do his legs do that tho like, that's not normal, right? and it's not just his shapeless pants either. his knees are definitely bending forwards
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Sagebrush posted:how do his legs do that tho i can do that with my elbows it's just hyperextended or hypermobile joints you can gently caress them up much more easily
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FCKGW posted:what I always find terrifying about Facebook is when those “Facebook is listing to your microphone!” stories pop up. it’s been debunked by multiple security researchers but people still believe it because if you explain that “no, they’re actually just that drat good at mining you and your friends data and habits that they can predict your thoughts when you think them”, they can’t wrap their heads around that level of privacy erosion that they’d rather believe the phones are bugged. probably like 70% of the laptops i see out there have tape stuck over the camera, even though the LED is usually connected directly to the camera power and cannot be independently deactivated, but i suppose people don't know that of course taping over the camera prevents you from seeing the LED as well, so the mic could still very well be active and capturing everything you say and you'd never know security theater explains an incredible amount of human behavior
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Sagebrush posted:probably like 70% of the laptops i see out there have tape stuck over the camera, even though the LED is usually connected directly to the camera power and cannot be independently deactivated, but i suppose people don't know that people don't block the camera to prevent the nsa or some poo poo from spying on them, they do it so their employer can't see what they're doing
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Sagebrush posted:probably like 70% of the laptops i see out there have tape stuck over the camera, even though the LED is usually connected directly to the camera power and cannot be independently deactivated, but i suppose people don't know that the mic isn't in the camera on any laptop i've ever seen. and in some cases the led is not electrically in line with anything, it's just the firmware or driver that enables or disables it, and can be bypassed. having to know any of this is absurd, and putting a piece of tape over the lens is 100% the most effective thing the average person can do to prevent it being used without their knowledge
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Sagebrush posted:probably like 70% of the laptops i see out there have tape stuck over the camera, even though the LED is usually connected directly to the camera power and cannot be independently deactivated, but i suppose people don't know that this has been disproven
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Cat Face Joe posted:people don't block the camera to prevent the nsa or some poo poo from spying on them, they do it so their employer can't see what they're doing also lots of lovely conference software just turns on and shares your camera by default.
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infernal machines posted:the mic isn't in the camera on any laptop i've ever seen. and in some cases the led is not electrically in line with anything, it's just the firmware or driver that enables or disables it, and can be bypassed. I just uninstall the drivers for it. Is that effective? Legit question.
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Avenging_Mikon posted:I just uninstall the drivers for it. Is that effective? from most things probably, yeah. anything with low level system access can probably still initialize it, so, again the tape is 100% effective.
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Krankenstyle posted:imo the solution is armed revolution the pollution solution is socialist revolution
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I hate tape residue 
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qirex posted:I remember hearing rumors about the "closet nobody's allowed in" at every colo/data center in like 1998, I'd assume multiple governments have basically parallel copies of the internet running that was deffo my state university. All the stuff for the state itself ran in the capital, so this server farm was only for the university. Rows of racks that are solid-front so you can't see in. If there was a problem, it was a "call this number and tell the person on the other end what is wrong and they will come and fix it" situation, along with a very, very large fiber patchboard with carriers the state had never signed any contracts with.
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Avenging_Mikon posted:I hate tape residue just never take it off, easy peasy or face to some random on 4chan watching you fluff your hog and pick your nose, whatever.
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Avenging_Mikon posted:I hate tape residue use gaffer tape
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i had my thinkpad built without a camera 
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i only use my laptop for work, and frankly if anyone has access to it then, i've got bigger problems than them looking up my nose (xps 13)
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newer stuff does have a nice low-tech sliding door in front of the lens. yeah the power led is probably not just a gpio on the controller chip but i'm not about to tear my display to pieces in order to find out. also who the h*ck would bug your laptop and not, like, your phone.
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a reminder from earlier this page: the data recorded from the mic is almost certainly more damaging than what the camera can pick up and nobody covers up the mic port
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infernal machines posted:probably? but what does that have to do with training systems that will interact with the real world, with potentially lethal consequences? I was replying to suspicious dish, learn to reading comprehension
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a reminder from even earlier on this page: you as an individual are far more likely to be targeted based on information you've voluntarily provided on social networks than on a personal direct level via your computer.
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Shaggar posted:also lots of lovely conference software just turns on and shares your camera by default. this is the real reason
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pseudorandom name posted:I was replying to suspicious dish, learn to reading comprehension sorry, i must have lost the thread at vr being useful
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infernal machines posted:just never take it off, easy peasy also dont turn your monitor off.
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pseudorandom name posted:I was replying to suspicious dish, learn to reading comprehension probably, but the guy i was talking to last night probably didn't. either that or he didn't think it was something cool & useful enough.
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