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Anidav: Feb 25, 2010; ahhh fuck its the rats again

I can't wait to hear Turnbull try to play both sides and fail

# ? Mar 22, 2018 22:52

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# ? May 24, 2024 03:01

JBP: Feb 16, 2017; You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

The Great Communicator

# ? Mar 22, 2018 23:07

Anidav: Feb 25, 2010; ahhh fuck its the rats again

ASX is going to tank. Nooooooooo

# ? Mar 22, 2018 23:23

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

Anidav posted:

ASX is going to tank. Nooooooooo

All those dividends gone, like tears in the rain. Time to divest.

# ? Mar 22, 2018 23:27

JBP: Feb 16, 2017; You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Anidav posted:

ASX is going to tank. Nooooooooo

I don't know, if we can maintain our current arrangements under the watered down TPP we (heavily capitalised Australians/companies) might make out like bandits.

# ? Mar 22, 2018 23:27

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

John Bolton is the next National Security Adviser, so we'll probably be sending ground forces to a warzone in the next few years too.

# ? Mar 22, 2018 23:28

Dimebag: Jul 12, 2004

Whatever the worst possible decision that can be made, that's what Turnbull will do. Who has more pull with the LNP rich Chinese or rich Seppos?

# ? Mar 22, 2018 23:29

JBP: Feb 16, 2017; You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Could be yet another situation where a world crisis happens, ALP comes in and does some absolutely basic economics, Australia too small and weak for anyone to care or notice, we ride it out/make some money, people complain about labor waste and we lose all advantage under the next Lib government.

# ? Mar 22, 2018 23:29

Dimebag: Jul 12, 2004

JBP posted:

Could be yet another situation where a world crisis happens, ALP comes in and does some absolutely basic economics, Australia too small and weak for anyone to care or notice, we ride it out/make some money, people complain about labor waste and we lose all advantage under the next Lib government.

The one thing we can rely on is the average Australian voting against their own best interest.

# ? Mar 22, 2018 23:36

hiddenmovement: Sep 29, 2011; "Most mornings I'll apologise in advance to my wife."

Dimebag posted:

Whatever the worst possible decision that can be made, that's what Turnbull will do. Who has more pull with the LNP rich Chinese or rich Seppos?

The right wing of the LNP is pulling his strings and they will 100% back the white people

# ? Mar 23, 2018 00:05

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

hiddenmovement posted:

The right wing of the LNP is pulling his strings and they will 100% back the white people

People like Rinehart do far more business with China than with America though.

# ? Mar 23, 2018 00:14

CrazyTolradi: Oct 2, 2011; It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

Anidav posted:

ASX is going to tank. Nooooooooo

White Ghost of Misfortune.

# ? Mar 23, 2018 00:19

Starshark: Dec 22, 2005; Doctor Rope

Doctor Spaceman posted:

John Bolton is the next National Security Adviser, so we'll probably be sending ground forces to a warzone next month.

ftfy we are so hosed

# ? Mar 23, 2018 00:21

Dimebag: Jul 12, 2004

Starshark posted:

ftfy we are so hosed

How quick can we spin up those weapons/military vehicle factories?

# ? Mar 23, 2018 00:27

Other: Jul 10, 2007; Post it easy!

Doctor Spaceman posted:

People like Rinehart do far more business with China than with America though.

You're right, but also so is hiddenmovement. Therefore the right splits and is unable to agree on one person to dethrone Turnbull who goes on to survives Newspoll 30 through however many there are until the next election

# ? Mar 23, 2018 00:28

You Am I: May 20, 2001; Me @ your poasting

Doctor Spaceman posted:

John Bolton is the next National Security Adviser, so we'll probably be sending ground forces to a warzone in the next few years too.

Meh, Trump will sack him over twitter in 9 months time.

# ? Mar 23, 2018 00:28

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

You Am I posted:

Meh, Trump will sack him over twitter in 9 months time.

gently caress I hope so.

My concern is that Trump really, really wants to be a wartime president and to fire a nuke and that Bolton is exactly the kind of person who would enable that.

Doctor Spaceman posted:

John Bolton is the next National Security Adviser, so we'll probably be sending ground forces to a warzone in the next few years too.

RIP Humanity, we had a good run though.

# ? Mar 23, 2018 01:40

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

RIP Humanity, we had a good run though.

Narrator voice: They hadn�t.

# ? Mar 23, 2018 02:03

Other: Jul 10, 2007; Post it easy!

Tariff exemption only temporary for Australia, new quotas introduced
https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/tariff-exemption-only-temporary-for-australia-new-quotas-introduced-20180323-p4z5vv.html
GJ Trundle, a real feather in your cap

# ? Mar 23, 2018 03:24

ewe2: Jul 1, 2009

Solemn Sloth posted:

In the gay bar gay bar gay bar

He's got something to put in you

# ? Mar 23, 2018 03:25

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/976986256688209922

# ? Mar 23, 2018 03:39

JBP: Feb 16, 2017; You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Anidav posted:

I can't wait to hear Turnbull try to play both sides and fail

lmao just to hark back to this, Tump has already reneged on steel tariff exemptions

# ? Mar 23, 2018 03:42

Anidav: Feb 25, 2010; ahhh fuck its the rats again

Can't wait for Shorten to get elected on a Pro China platform so we can build a Huawei NBN and a Tencent High Speed Rail network

# ? Mar 23, 2018 03:44

Reclines Obesily: Jul 24, 2000; Hey Moona!; Slippery Tilde

ten cents? loving bargain

# ? Mar 23, 2018 03:53

hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/976986256688209922

Trump having syphilis would explain a lot.

# ? Mar 23, 2018 04:09

bell jar: Feb 25, 2009

Katie Brennan�s savvy legal move backs AFL into a corner

quote:

The dramatic build up to this weekend�s AFLW grand final escalated further on the eve of the game with Western Bulldogs captain Katie Brennan announcing she will lodge a formal sex discrimination complaint against the AFL with the Australian Human Rights Commission. It�s a savvy legal move that will compel the AFL to completely rethink its approach to sanctioning women.

Brennan�s two-game ban raised immediate . The reason was simple: were Brennan were a man, she would have been asked to pay a fine, instead of being suspended. The sole reason women do not get the option of paying a fine is wage disparity (the average wage for a men�s AFL player is $371,000, whereas AFLW rookies receive just $10,500). Rather than opting to have the women pay smaller fines on a pro rata basis, the AFL went with a different system that results in them being sanctioned more severely.

There has been an explosion of public interest in the case this week. There have also been many misconceptions about the relationship between elite sporting competitions and the law. Although sporting competitions are entitled to develop their own rules, those rules must comply with overarching legal obligations. In Australia this includes the Federal Sex Discrimination Act, which prevents discrimination against people on the basis of their sex, except in very specific circumstances.

Brennan twice appealed the suspension. Surprisingly, her legal team didn�t pursue this line of argument at the first hearing. At the second hearing, she did, represented by a team of lawyers including Jack Rush QC and Bulldogs president, Peter Gordon. The AFL argued that Brennan�s legal team should have raised those arguments the first time around, were barred from raising entirely new arguments the second time around, and were simply trying to have a second bite at the cherry. Disappointingly, the appeals board deliberated for just 15 minutes, gave no reasons for its decision, and dismissed the appeal. The failure to provide an explanation for its decision raised even more legal questions, including the possibility that this was itself a denial of a fundamental legal principle � that of procedural fairness.

All eyes were on the Bulldogs� next move. Gordon is a renowned litigator who rarely shies away from a fight and as social media exploded with speculation, a #FreeKatieBrennan movement was launched, including a petition. There was growing recognition that Brennan was a victim of circumstance, and an imperfect system which yielded a result only made possible because there are different � and more severe � rules for women.

On Friday morning, the Dogs announced that they would not seek an injunction in the supreme or federal court. But then came the kicker. In an unexpected move, the club announced that Brennan is lodging a complaint with the Australian Human Rights Commission, alleging that the suspension was unlawful on human rights grounds.

The Commission will not deal with the case before the grand final this weekend. Brennan will not play. But the lodging of a human rights complaint is a strategic masterstroke that forces the AFL into an impossible position. Here�s why: the Commission is an independent third party, whose job is to investigate human rights complaints and to help parties resolve their disputes. The Commission will ask the AFL to consider the specifics of Brennan�s complaint, before overseeing a conciliation. There, Brennan will sit down with the AFL to air her concerns and the Commission will try to help them both come to a resolution.

Brennan will almost certainly demand three things from the AFL: that they admit the tribunal system unfairly discriminates against women; that they overhaul the system so that the rules are fair and no other woman will be put in Brennan�s position again; and finally, that her suspension be wiped from the historic record, as a matter of principle.

If the AFL does not accede, Brennan can go to the federal court and seek a hearing. The AFL will be taking a huge risk if it allows things to go that far. It cannot afford a formal court hearing where such arguments are thrashed out by teams of lawyers, with QCs getting paid hourly rates comparable to an entire season�s wage for many of the women.

It would be a public relations disaster for the AFL, and generate significant bad blood with players and fans, including the new audience it has found through the AFLW. Most of all, the AFL cannot afford to risk the chance of a formal federal court finding that its fledgling AFLW competition � a pillar of its putative commitment to gender equality and equal opportunity for women � is inherently discriminatory. It would be a disastrous result for CEO Gil McLachlan, and one that he will be desperate to avoid.

For this reason, it�s almost certain that the AFL will capitulate at the first hurdle, and accede to some � and perhaps all � of Brennan�s demands at conciliation. The AFL will be asked to admit that its system � while well-intentioned � wasn�t perfect and produced a perverse result that has left Brennan on the wrong side of history. Her move is a hugely significant one, not just for current AFLW footballers, but for future generations of girls and women who will play the game. A star on the field, Brennan has now laid down a huge challenge to the code off it. The ball is now in the AFL�s court.

lmao why does anyone continue to support this piece of poo poo organisation. incredibly sexist, racist, homophobic, and transphobic. if you can come out in support of an organisation that will pay male players at least 3000% of their female counterparts' salaries and punish the female players even more, there's something seriously wrong with you and your culture.

# ? Mar 23, 2018 04:11

Dimebag: Jul 12, 2004

Should put more pokies into the club's so the profit can be funneled into wages for the ~~WAFL players, junior sports, charities~~ clubs board members.

Dimebag fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Mar 23, 2018

# ? Mar 23, 2018 04:22

hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

bell jar posted:

Katie Brennan�s savvy legal move backs AFL into a corner

lmao why does anyone continue to support this piece of poo poo organisation. incredibly sexist, racist, homophobic, and transphobic. if you can come out in support of an organisation that will pay male players at least 3000% of their female counterparts' salaries and punish the female players even more, there's something seriously wrong with you and your culture.

*taps on "Aus" in thread title*

# ? Mar 23, 2018 04:28

G-Spot Run: Jun 28, 2005

s'footymatewhatsyafukinproblim

# ? Mar 23, 2018 04:30

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

AFL is the one where they do obscene things with dogs right?

# ? Mar 23, 2018 04:33

hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

AFL is the one where they do obscene things with dogs right?

It's the one with all the racial slurs that isn't cricket.

# ? Mar 23, 2018 04:42

CrazyTolradi: Oct 2, 2011; It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

Anidav posted:

Can't wait for Shorten to get elected on a Pro China platform so we can build a Huawei NBN and a Tencent High Speed Rail network

Labor introduces a Citizen Score system. Anidav loses his right to freedom of movement because of wasteful spending on junk consoles.

# ? Mar 23, 2018 04:44

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

bell jar posted:

Katie Brennan�s savvy legal move backs AFL into a corner

lmao why does anyone continue to support this piece of poo poo organisation. incredibly sexist, racist, homophobic, and transphobic. if you can come out in support of an organisation that will pay male players at least 3000% of their female counterparts' salaries and punish the female players even more, there's something seriously wrong with you and your culture.

There are many words which could be used to describe the western bulldogs legal strategy in the last week but savvy sure as gently caress ain�t one of them

# ? Mar 23, 2018 04:59

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

CrazyTolradi posted:

Labor introduces a Citizen Score system. Anidav loses his right to freedom of movement because of wasteful spending on junk consoles.

The pc engine is not a junk console.

# ? Mar 23, 2018 05:00

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

AFL is the one where they do obscene things with dogs right?

Nah that�s rugby league (they also piss in they own mouth)
AFL is the one where people boo an aboriginal man because he won Australian of the year (actually it�s because he stages for free kicks or something honest no really I ain�t no fucjin racist go back to King Kong ya wanker)

# ? Mar 23, 2018 05:00

Intoluene: Jul 6, 2011; Activating self-destruct sequence!; Fun Shoe

CrazyTolradi posted:

Labor introduces a Citizen Score system. Anidav loses his right to freedom of movement because of wasteful spending on junk consoles.

Harsh but fair.

# ? Mar 23, 2018 05:00

swimsuit: Jan 22, 2009; yeah

disliking footy is counter revolutionary

# ? Mar 23, 2018 05:03

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# ? May 24, 2024 03:01

bell jar: Feb 25, 2009

the only revolution going on in australian rules football is the radical millennial consolation point system

oh, you kicked the ball to the side of the goalposts? have a consolation point

oh, you kicked the goal post? have a consolation point

you caught the ball? good boye, now everyone back up and give him room so he can kick it

its a goal! six points for the special boy

# ? Mar 23, 2018 05:07

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