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The box switches are definitely an interesting idea. I really like how keypresses feel with o-rings, and they're not compatible with the box style stems, which would take some getting used to, but I may not need them either with such a heavy spring. Only other downside I see to those is that they use a spring with a different radius than a traditional MX spring, so I can't replace the spring if I decide I still want to go heavier than 70g. The price is kinda amazing, though, at $3 for 10 switches. That's low enough that it's probably worth the gamble. Edit: Screw it, why not. I'll try them on the K-Type, and see what I think. G-Prime fucked around with this message at 01:28 on Mar 25, 2018 |
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The Postman posted:In the market for my first mechanical keyboard and figured I'd ask for a general recommendation before I went straight for something from the Quick Picks list. I definitely want to go full size and I'm leaning towards the WASD. I was in the same boat as you a month ago, and after trying a few mechanical gaming keyboards, decided on the Code: https://codekeyboards.com/ My understanding is that it's basically a WASD, but backlit (as it appears that none of the WASD offerings are backlit). I haven't used it a TON yet, but it's quite nice. Would recommend.
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Fwiw the Code pretty much is the back-lit WASD offering, just slightly different branding and a collab with an outside designer. WASD sells it on their site (it's one of their two lines), they just also built out a separate site iirc. It's a great keyboard, seconding the recommendation.
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It's time to get a real keyboard. What's the goto Cherry Brown, non-gamer ten keyless? Everything has crazy LED lights and stuff I'm never going to use! I just want to type.
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Hummer Driving human being posted:It's time to get a real keyboard. I got the Filco Majestouch 2 TKL and have been happy with it. The stock keycaps felt a little flimsy, but otherwise it's a solid board with no frills.
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When can RealForce RGB boards be found for sale? Is it seasonal availability or what? Actually, has anyone heard any more news on the Realforce RGB TKL that Topre apparently announced?
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Mar 25, 2018 06:08
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Hummer Driving human being posted:It's time to get a real keyboard. I was looking for the same thing and ended up getting a Leopold 750, though I've heard the Filcos are nice too. The Leopolds come in good color schemes.
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Hummer Driving human being posted:It's time to get a real keyboard. I was looking at the Filco Majestouch 2 TKL as mentioned by Spiggy and the Cooler Master Masterkeys S TKL. I went with the Cooler Master as it was a bit cheaper here in the UK, but I don't think you would go wrong with either from the research I did online.
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Techokami posted:When doing my desktop computer refresh, I took things in a different direction for the keyboard. I got an Apple Extended Keyboard II, which has the same layout as a regular PC keyboard but with nice Alps White Dampened switches. To go from ADB to USB, I used this guide and this repo as a guide and created an adapter with $3 in parts from Digikey and a Teensy 2.0. The creator of the software used on said Teensy makes pre-made adapters for $35, which is your best non-DIY bet as all the older ADB to USB adapters that came around after Apple switched to USB with the iMac are now stupid rare and hella expensive. Welcome to the AEK club  These keyboards are loving amazing and I'm just worried that by the time my current one (which is already 30 years old) wears out, it'll be impossible to find another. TheFluff fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Mar 25, 2018 |
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SA Carbon group buy is being delivered now, huzzah. Got my ErgoDox completed:
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Dead Goon posted:I was looking at the Filco Majestouch 2 TKL as mentioned by Spiggy and the Cooler Master Masterkeys S TKL. I went for the Cooler Master for your same reasons. Thank you all for the advice. All three suggestions looked fine for what I need.
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Just how much do rubber o-rings dampen sound? Fats posted:I was looking for the same thing and ended up getting a Leopold 750, though I've heard the Filcos are nice too. The Leopolds come in good color schemes. I've replaced them with the ducky ABS caps I had laying around and those have held up just fine. The ABS caps are shiny and get fingernail imprints sometimes, but they seem to hold up fine in the medium term. Khorne fucked around with this message at 02:53 on Mar 26, 2018 |
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Khorne posted:I don't know the situation now, but a lot of my leopold PBT keycaps snapped where the stem goes in just from typing and gaming. WASD/R/T/Y/J/K/L all did. Hm, that’s worrying. This thing is destined for work, so I guess I’ll see how it holds up.
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Fats posted:Hm, that’s worrying. This thing is destined for work, so I guess I’ll see how it holds up. When I type the keys coming up are loud as hell and when I game the keys bottoming out are loud as hell.
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Khorne posted:Just how much do rubber o-rings dampen sound? Not a ton, honestly. What they do is make it significantly harder to bottom out, which inherently reduces the noise the switches make, because there's not that hard impact at the end.
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Khorne posted:Just how much do rubber o-rings dampen sound? Not much. It helps dampen the downstroke, but upstroke noise stays the same. If you really want to go silent, you can get silent switches (they have rubber on the end of the switch slider dampening the sound) and get silencing clips (like a housing for the switch that blocks the sound). Though with that much money invested in those things, I'd just go rubberdome.
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Yeah, but silencing clips are not. Zealllllllll
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Constellation I posted:Yeah, but silencing clips are not. Zealllllllll
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Khorne posted:Just how much do rubber o-rings dampen sound? To add to the experiences shared so far, I would say they actually make a decently significant change in noise for SA profile keycaps. In addition to stopping the bottom-out sound, they also fill up some of the empty space inside the keycap, reducing the resonance some. However, due to the design of Signature Plastics's SA profile, you will need a strange series of O-rings per keycap. For Kailh switches that have a total travel of 3.6mm, you will need to add another 1.5mm O-ring per keycap on top of the linked recipe. As mentioned above, O-rings do nothing for BOX switches, except make your keycap more likely to pop off.
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Fats posted:Just spent way too much on the TKL version of this, also with MX clears. I've never had a fancy keyboard, so naturally my first one was a weirdly esoteric model I had to order from some dude in South Korea. Oh I thought widebasket sold out. I have already moved on to a custom WASD with MOD-H switches, lol. They feel great. The MX Clear Leopolds are not bad either.
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Constellation I posted:Yeah, but silencing clips are not. Zealllllllll GMK is manufacturing QMX silencing clips for half the price. Still ridiculous considering price to manufacturing cost, but if you really want to get all up in those clips, it’s doable. Like Zealencios, they only fit cherries and gateron manufactured switches.
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After a few months of consensus posting from the thread I've decided to move Kalih up to Good Cherry Clones from Nope. Any other changes people would like to see to the OP?
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Is there software that tracks key presses so I can get an idea of how often I use things like function keys, arrows and numpad? I feel like that would help me decide what level of compact keeb is right for me.
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The Unlife Aquatic posted:After a few months of consensus posting from the thread I've decided to move Kalih up to Good Cherry Clones from Nope. Any other changes people would like to see to the OP? Chyrosran22's Youtube channel is full of vintage keyboard reviews, and may be useful if people want to buy old poo poo on eBay instead of picking up a Code or a Unicomp or whatever. It's also a fun time sink if you want to nerd out about old keyboards, and even has the dorkiest background noise video you can possibly listen to.
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HEY NONG MAN posted:Is there software that tracks key presses so I can get an idea of how often I use things like function keys, arrows and numpad? Haven't used it but this looks promising: https://whatpulse.org/
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The Unlife Aquatic posted:After a few months of consensus posting from the thread I've decided to move Kalih up to Good Cherry Clones from Nope. Any other changes people would like to see to the OP? Move Cherry switches to nope. HEY NONG MAN posted:Is there software that tracks key presses so I can get an idea of how often I use things like function keys, arrows and numpad? https://whatpulse.org/ Pretty decent heatmap for keyboards and other things. Constellation I fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Mar 27, 2018 |
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Just got an email from WASD that says they’re gonna start selling CODEs with zealios.
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HEY NONG MAN posted:Just got an email from WASD that says they’re gonna start selling CODEs with zealios. Whoa how much is that going to cost?
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$190 for TKL, $200 for full. http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/code-keyboard.html
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The Unlife Aquatic posted:After a few months of consensus posting from the thread I've decided to move Kalih up to Good Cherry Clones from Nope. Any other changes people would like to see to the OP? Maybe something about romer-g (decent but weird?) and these vids about desoldering switches https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja4U75kF1Jw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_dvf45hN6Y
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Constellation I posted:Move Cherry switches to nope. They're not that bad, are they? I've heard the retooled Browns are pretty good, at least.
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I'm mostly joking, but the retooled Cherry MX switches are a lot less scratchy, so they closed the gap on that. But with all the options out there, there's really no reason to go with Cherry switches other than if they come with the board you're buying. Linears - Gateron and Kailh Box are smoother. Tactile - Almost anything else is better than Cherry Browns. Clears are great, but people also want them lighter, which is what led to "ergo" Clear options which eventually led to things like Zealios. Clicky - definitely the worst type compared to all the other clones. Like I'd take how an Outemu Blue sounds and feels over Cherry MX Blue any day. Not to mention nowadays you have more options such click-bars and improved traditional sleeve jacket clickies like Kailh Gold, etc. It's a good thing that there's a lot more options out there now for hotswappable sockets in consumer keyboards, so people can really try and figure out their preferences in terms of switches. Constellation I fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Mar 28, 2018 |
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Ah, gotcha. I agree that all the clones out there are better than the venerable OG Cherry switches, at least for tactiles, which are the only ones I have experience with. Gateron Brown was smoother than Cherry MX Brown, but its significantly lower actuation point made typing a little awkward with sculpted SA caps. I've had good experiences with Kailh switches so far. Just switched from BOX Brown to Pro Purple, but both are quite good and I'm not sure I can name a favorite between the two. Speed Copper was pretty all right too, but I ended up selling those off. Very much looking forward to the NovelKeys BOX Royal!
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HappyCapybaraFamily posted:Very much looking forward to the NovelKeys BOX Royal! I just ordered box navys 
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Constellation I posted:dat bump Not even close my dude 
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I have em and don't like em (sorry mgsickler) and I'm talking about tactiles not clickies, sir
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Input Club have posted their force curve of the BOX Royal  I am somewhat concerned that sudden and sharp drop-off after the bump will make it very hard not to bottom out on these switches, but that bump...
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