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Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

ACES CURE PLANES posted:

Remember that campaigns for universal basic income, raising the minimum wage, and universal health care are classified as tankie movements by Dems.

Really? I've only ever heard the term used by leftists for the sort of people Yardbomb was describing, I've never really seen Dems use it. Maybe I've just been looking at the wrong places, though.

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Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

ACES CURE PLANES posted:

They're both reductive terms used to disenfranchise any movement that swings anywhere further left than 'american liberal', which is to say, still conservative but maybe pays lip service to human rights now and again.

Remember that campaigns for universal basic income, raising the minimum wage, and universal health care are classified as tankie movements by Dems.

Mainline american dems are dumb and we're not talking about that though, "tankie" in most of it's real usage is telling someone to gently caress off for trying to handwave the holodomor, the NKVD's work and similar.

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007

ACES CURE PLANES posted:

Tbh, using the term 'tankie' is pretty much on the same level as using 'alt-left'.

No. No, it isn't.

EDIT: I mean, it's a term mainly used by lefties for people way out on the loving extreme who'll like, tell you with a straight face that North Korea is good, have 1000 hammer and sickles in their bio and harass the gently caress out of anyone who disagrees with them

Kim Justice fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Mar 27, 2018

ACES CURE PLANES
Oct 21, 2010



Idran posted:

Really? I've only ever heard the term used by leftists for the sort of people Yardbomb was describing, I've never really seen Dems use it. Maybe I've just been looking at the wrong places, though.

You see it pretty often among people who complain about "eating our own", ie diehard centrism.biz types who say that "now isn't the right time to have a conversation about healtcare/gun control/income inequality/global warming/the meteor hanging above our heads".

Sanders was a pretty popular target for being called a tankie during the election, for example.

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005


I've only ever seen tankie used to describe the kind of person who thinks North Korea is a utopia unfairly maligned by the Capitalist Pigdogs of the US, but that's mainly because I've only ever encountered the word in this forum, mostly in the context of the PYF Tankies thread.

Solitair
Feb 18, 2014

TODAY'S GONNA BE A GOOD MOTHERFUCKIN' DAY!!!

Leal posted:

When I talked about it in the past some people would come in with "oh playing elin doesn't mean anything elins are cool cause you're tiny and use big weapons" or something like that.

I've never played Tera. How do these elin compare to the lalafell from Final Fantasy XIV, in terms of being uncomfortable to think about in conjunction with this topic?

Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:

Its kind of a shame actually, when it comes to nuts and bolts narrative structure and series design stuff Digibro is probably up there with Super Eyepatch Wolf as being one of the few anime youtubers who have their poo poo together and aren't just regurgitating Tvtropes excerpts with minimal examination, like, say, gigguk or Mothers Basement. Him melting the gently caress down on the hill of defending child porn means that there's now a whole wealth of genuinely informative content that's permanently tainted by association.

I feel similarly, but I'm not shocked that something like this happened. I always knew that if goons really cared enough to dig into Digi's After Dark channel and the stuff he does with his close friends they'd find a near infinite amount of embarrassing poo poo to mock him for.

FoldableHuman posted:

I made it about 20 seconds before his letterboxed-video-over-background-image really sank in.

There's just so much happening in this frame.



That frame is why I didn't even click play.

Serf
May 5, 2011


yeah i've never seen tankie applied to anyone who was just a regular leftist. its become kinda muddled with the rise of ironic soviet imagery but it doesn't take long to suss out who actually loves stalin

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


alt-right: the fringe branch of american conservatism that is associated with white supremacy, misogyny, doxxing people, and using meme culture as a mask for political propaganda
alt-left: the fringe branch of american liberalism dedicated to keeping you from getting off to drawings of small children.

there are many sides

Augus fucked around with this message at 03:13 on Mar 27, 2018

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
"There are heroes on both sides. Evil is everywhere."
(No there aren't. Not it isn't.)

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007

And alt-left is kinda just a dogwhistle anyway, I'm not even sure such a thing really exists except in the minds of alt-right chuds or people who prostrate themselves at the foot of the Horseshoe Theory.

Sure you may get the odd one who'll say that Bernie Sanders or Jeremy Corbyn or whoever is a tankie but that doesn't really make it so.

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:

Its kind of a shame actually, when it comes to nuts and bolts narrative structure and series design stuff Digibro is probably up there with Super Eyepatch Wolf as being one of the few anime youtubers who have their poo poo together and aren't just regurgitating Tvtropes excerpts with minimal examination, like, say, gigguk or Mothers Basement. Him melting the gently caress down on the hill of defending child porn means that there's now a whole wealth of genuinely informative content that's permanently tainted by association.
Well it's unfortunate but not really unexpected. I'd assume the same sort of stuff, just stated less directly by all of the guys you listed including Eyepatch Wolf. They all really like Monogatari a series entirely about sexually harassing underage girls.

Also add me to the pile of people who has only ever heard tankie used to describe things like true blue Stalinists and North Korea defenders.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC

Solitair posted:

I've never played Tera. How do these elin compare to the lalafell from Final Fantasy XIV, in terms of being uncomfortable to think about in conjunction with this topic?


Lalafell are lil' potato hobbits, Elin are literally >10 year old girls with animal ears and the skeeviest loving costumes in any MMO.

LibrarianCroaker
Mar 30, 2010

Solitair posted:

I've never played Tera. How do these elin compare to the lalafell from Final Fantasy XIV, in terms of being uncomfortable to think about in conjunction with this topic?

90% of female armor in Tera looks like lingerie. Elin are an all-female race of 10 year olds. They are not the 10% exception.

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW
I looked up the Elin and now I'm probably on a government watch list.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
'alt left' is literally a term made up by 7%er Hillary stans on twitter to say 'you know by saying Bernie woulda won you're basically like JewStomper_KekLord69...' and then our loving sundowning president took it and they pretended they didn't start it.

lornekates
Oct 3, 2014

Web Developer for phelous.com dot com.

Neddy Seagoon posted:

He protected his tweets. What fresh hell was this one?

Now I'll never know if I pwned him with my sick burn.

lornekates
Oct 3, 2014

Web Developer for phelous.com dot com.

Max Wilco posted:

Um, I'm pretty sure that's it's a re-host, not the video that he himself uploaded.

Really? Because it's the top hit for me when I google "RIPD Blockbuster Buster".

Wow. Even Google loving hates this guy.

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
https://twitter.com/rantasmo/status/978457241991958528

Another one for the "huh, thought he already left" pile

Babysitter Super Sleuth
Apr 26, 2012

my posts are as bad the Current Releases review of Gone Girl

Terrible Opinions posted:

Well it's unfortunate but not really unexpected. I'd assume the same sort of stuff, just stated less directly by all of the guys you listed including Eyepatch Wolf. They all really like Monogatari a series entirely about sexually harassing underage girls.


Id be surprised if SEW got anime'd like that, given he's got a whole bit in his Made in Abyss video about how one of the big upsides of the anime is that it specifically scrubs out all of the creepy pedo poo poo from the manga that it can, and generally saying that he doesn't buy any of the usual excuses people give for that stuff. MB and Gigguk, I don't trust as far as I could throw them, mind, but the monogatari series has enough artistic positives that I could see someone actually making a defense of it, even if I don't agree.

Solitair
Feb 18, 2014

TODAY'S GONNA BE A GOOD MOTHERFUCKIN' DAY!!!

SteelMentor posted:

Lalafell are lil' potato hobbits, Elin are literally >10 year old girls with animal ears and the skeeviest loving costumes in any MMO.

LibrarianCroaker posted:

90% of female armor in Tera looks like lingerie. Elin are an all-female race of 10 year olds. They are not the 10% exception.

That's about what I thought. I'm super glad that FFXIV doesn't go for that chainmail bikini poo poo.

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005


Kim Justice posted:

And alt-left is kinda just a dogwhistle anyway, I'm not even sure such a thing really exists except in the minds of alt-right chuds or people who prostrate themselves at the foot of the Horseshoe Theory.

Sure you may get the odd one who'll say that Bernie Sanders or Jeremy Corbyn or whoever is a tankie but that doesn't really make it so.

I'm pretty sure something you could consider an "alt left" exists, it's just not a coherent force the way the alt-right is. Hard to make an impact when you don't share a lot of strong core principles.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Puppy Time posted:

I'm pretty sure something you could consider an "alt left" exists, it's just not a coherent force the way the alt-right is. Hard to make an impact when you don't share a lot of strong core principles.

yea basically any real 'alt-left' is a loose confederacy of tankies, Chairman Bob types, eco-radicals who think we need to blow the power grid up to fix the world, hoteps, and like five guys in rural New Hampshire on a co-op who are pretty sure the jews put tracking devices in bottled water. These people exist in the sense they're living humans with genuine regressive views but they're not really a cohesive force in the left's politics the way the white nationalists and fascists are in the right.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
oh and crunchy antivaxx types but they get folded in with other groups usually and cross-pollinate with the libertarian right too much to be any one side's unique issue.

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007

But guys, aren't videos by Hbomb, Shaun and Contra a gateway to the alt-left? And furthermore I really must

Linear Zoetrope
Nov 28, 2011

A hero must cook
No, Hbomb is a gateway to alt-film appreciation.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
The HBomb is the last thing the lucky ones will see... those who survive will envy those who didn't.

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

sexpig by night posted:

yea basically any real 'alt-left' is a loose confederacy of tankies, Chairman Bob types, eco-radicals who think we need to blow the power grid up to fix the world, hoteps, and like five guys in rural New Hampshire on a co-op who are pretty sure the jews put tracking devices in bottled water. These people exist in the sense they're living humans with genuine regressive views but they're not really a cohesive force in the left's politics the way the white nationalists and fascists are in the right.

I was confused by the Chairman Bob reference until I realized I was thinking of Chairman Steve.

Hemingway To Go!
Nov 10, 2008

im stupider then dog shit, i dont give a shit, and i dont give a fuck, and i will never shut the fuck up, and i'll always Respect my enemys.
- ernest hemingway
Truly instead of being alt-left or alt-right more people should be alt-F4 (close your drat browser and go outside)

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005


Linear Zoetrope posted:

No, Hbomb is a gateway to alt-film appreciation.

:perfect:

FoldableHuman
Mar 26, 2017

lornekates posted:

Really? Because it's the top hit for me when I google "RIPD Blockbuster Buster".

Wow. Even Google loving hates this guy.

LMAO, okay, it, uh, doesn't speak well of our opinions of the dude if we looked at it and went "sure, this looks like what I would expect."

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

[culla=big red]TufFEE did nO THINg W̡RA̸NG[/read]


Linear Zoetrope posted:

No, Hbomb is a gateway to alt-film appreciation.

I am certainly an alternative to appreciating films.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
hbomberguy is an alternative, to good videogames

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007

Hemingway To Go! posted:

Truly instead of being alt-left or alt-right more people should be alt-F4 (close your drat browser and go outside)

I'm usually alt-enter after I eat my dinner.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Linear Zoetrope posted:

No, Hbomb is a gateway to alt-film appreciation.

:five:

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:

Id be surprised if SEW got anime'd like that, given he's got a whole bit in his Made in Abyss video about how one of the big upsides of the anime is that it specifically scrubs out all of the creepy pedo poo poo from the manga that it can, and generally saying that he doesn't buy any of the usual excuses people give for that stuff. MB and Gigguk, I don't trust as far as I could throw them, mind, but the monogatari series has enough artistic positives that I could see someone actually making a defense of it, even if I don't agree.
I honestly can't actually see any artistic merit in it. There is literally nothing to the show besides the pedoshit because literally every single character is defined solely by their relation with the pedophile lead.

Sarcopenia
May 14, 2014

Miss Wallace posted:

Oh good, he made it public so I have no problem mentioning that he would constantly shout down any dissenters in the skype chat and told them after I was kicked off that they should "learn from Lupa" and just not make Mike mad. He seriously told them Mike had nothing to do with anything because y'know, he was just the CEO.

"If she's Rose McGowan and they're Harvey Weinstein, I choose Harvey Weinstein!" :colbert:

He also once compared people making fun of his dirty fingernails in videos to the persecution of Jews during the Holocaust.


Also Rob and Doug have called him a kiss-rear end behind his back and don't like him either, so if you're reading this, Tony... :cheers:

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
Maybe the 10th anniversary special should be titled Make Mike Michaud Mad.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Maybe the 10th anniversary special should be titled Make Mike Michaud Mad.

For the ten anniversary the former CA producers should all make their own special cross-over.

A tell-all special about all the things the Walkers and Michaud did over the past ten years.

lornekates
Oct 3, 2014

Web Developer for phelous.com dot com.
And there goes Rantasmo:

https://twitter.com/rantasmo/status/978457241991958528

"I have parted ways with Channel Awesome. Not going to go into detail, but what it mostly comes down to is: it feels like the right thing for me."

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Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Terrible Opinions posted:

I honestly can't actually see any artistic merit in it. There is literally nothing to the show besides the pedoshit because literally every single character is defined solely by their relation with the pedophile lead.

I can only speak second-hand here, but I’d heard that much of the show was about the rest of the cast growing up past the wreck of an MC and finding their own, better lives. Plus, the cinematography looks genuinely impressive.

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