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Thundercloud posted:Go on Perry miniatures, they have blisters to support their plastics. Yvonmukluk posted:I would add to Thundercloud's suggestions that Rubicon do some great kits for most of the vehicles you'd expect to find in North Africa (LRDG Jeep, early model Shermans, the CMP Truck & the Crusader), which are usually slightly cheaper than the Perry vehicles, if you'd rather not faff about with resin. Thanks for the info! I managed to slap together a 1000 point list with what I have so far: Operation Lightfoot selector, 1 Lt., 1 FAO, 2 squads of 8 SAS each with SMGs, 2 full Infantry Sections with an LMG and a Loader each and my Churchill. Going forward, I definitely want to get some transports for the SAS but i can't decide which route to go. Probably Bren Carriers. After that, I'm thinking of adding some support - mortars or MMGs.
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Moooooooooooon posted:That makes sense. 8th Route Army selector is maybe a bit unusual in that it covers the army from 1937 to 1945. In fact, glancing through Easy Army I don't see anything else with dates that cover the whole war (let alone the full Sino-Japanese war). Non-traditional lists like Partisans and Occupation forces are the same way - just one list for the whole war. They are usually meant to be played against other non-frontline lists so they don't get totally stomped. Looking at the 8th Route Army I think you would probably fare just fine against the IJA Kwantung Army. Their AFV are mostly armored cars and some light tanks which you could feasibly defeat. The problem with late-war tanks is they are nigh impossible to destroy without dedicated AT weapons like AT guns, panzerfausts/bazookas, other tanks. Basically you'd have a mobile, invincible pillbox with two machineguns and an artillery piece running around causing you trouble. Having been on the reciving end of that, you can still win but it's not very fun. There are rules for captured equipment though. So if a friend will loan you a tank to make it sporting you could try that. See here at the bottom of this article: http://articles.warlordgames.com/focus-captured-vehicles-in-bolt-action/ lilljonas posted:There’s no reason ever to go for a resin tank if there’s a plastic alternative imho. I buy a lot of models second-hand because I'm a cheap-rear end and I always groan when it turns out to be a resin kit instead of plastic. Oh great, one giant hunk of toxic material I need to sand into shape with no customization options. Class Warcraft fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Mar 23, 2018 |
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Huzzah, finished up another lot of DAK dudes:  I still need to put some tufts of dead grass and little camel bushes here and there on their bases, but it feels good to have another entirely painted force for Chain of Command.
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Class Warcraft posted:
Also, the guns will either be overdimensioned or break. Or both. gently caress resin tanks.
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Class Warcraft posted:The problem with late-war tanks is they are nigh impossible to destroy without dedicated AT weapons like AT guns, panzerfausts/bazookas, other tanks. What are people's thoughts on AT guns? The 8th Route list allows for a Zis-2 medium AT gun (late war only). At 75 points (reg) it's not exactly cheap but combined with 2 to 3 suicide AT guys it might not be enough to kill a late war tank but it might help me keep things uncomfortable for them. And is there any point buying a limber? Moving it around seems to be defeating the point a bit... Ilor posted:Huzzah, finished up another lot of DAK dudes: Liking the look of these guys. I'm looking forward to having some painted squads of my own to show off. I forgot how fiddly painting minis is. Trying to get in to paint behind rifles is a nightmare.
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Moooooooooooon posted:What are people's thoughts on AT guns? Been a while since I played Bolt Action, but I used it more for area denial than actual AT work as my opponent tended to try and outmaneuver it than directly face it. Keep in mind this was v1 when moving an AT gun, even pivoting on point, meant you couldn't fire it in the same turn so they are probably more versatile now. We also house ruled that they could be deployed as hidden if put in terrain that completely concealed them to make them more realistic and a viable option. Finally finished my 6mm Saga project, which took way longer than I thought because sourcing modeling poo poo in SE Asia was not as easy as I had thought it would be. I also knocked together some cheap foamcore movement trays so they could pull double duty in something like Hail Caesar.  
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Springfield Fatts posted:Been a while since I played Bolt Action, but I used it more for area denial than actual AT work as my opponent tended to try and outmaneuver it than directly face it. Yeah, that's pretty much what I figured. Sounds like it might be worth investing in once I have the rest of my army done. Plus, it would be nice to have at least one big gently caress-off gun in my army. That's a nice looking force, by the way. 28mm already feels so small to me - I have no idea how anyone ever paints at 6mm.
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I moved toto Richmond VA and no one here does flames of war, only bolt action. Fow might be in the nova region. How do I get started on bolt action? I was thinking I'd like to do soviets.
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Buy the rulebook. Buy some minis. I like the specific Soviet book, too, but it isn't technically necessary. For minis, you can watch for sales at DreamForge, and then supplement them with minis from Bad Squiddo so you have some women in the ranks.
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Unless you're European, in which case you can kiss yer DreamForge goodbye!
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chutche2 posted:I moved toto Richmond VA and no one here does flames of war, only bolt action. Fow might be in the nova region. How do I get started on bolt action? I was thinking I'd like to do soviets. In addition to what everyone else said: http://boltaction.easyarmy.com is helpful for building armies (and another reason you don't need the Russia-specific book unless you just want to read it) Don't forget to buy order dice, probably 2 packs.
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Mar 28, 2018 16:04
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If you are in the UK the build your own army is a good deal.
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:In addition to what everyone else said: Order dice are over priced, you can get like 30 blank dice for a couple bucks and just write on them with a thin sharpie. Also just a warning about playing Soviets, a lot of their lists are tons of inexperienced infantry, which is not a very newbie friendly list. It can be frustrating to have your guys get shot at a few times and become permapinned because their morale is too lovely to rally back from that. Keep that in mind when you build your army. Also warlord has 33% off the soviet infantry box right now which is a good deal and will get you 40 men.
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Counter point: order dice are super cool.
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Mar 28, 2018 20:34
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If BBC reports that a naked, Khaki-stained Lithuanian was throwing poop at the British embassy in Vilnius, it will have happened because I was gifted this: 50 Commandos (10 or so built) ~10ish meral Paras 25 Regulars Metal Charles Upham. Now accepting advice on how to paint Commandos to make them stand out more than just "Regulars with berets and maybe a knife."
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Thundercloud posted:If you are in the UK the build your own army is a good deal. It's a good deal here in the States as well. I recently picked up a bunch of Italians. (Which I'll probably use for CoC.)
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Hell yeah, at least Bad Squiddo has a non-ugly medic. http://badsquiddogames.com/shop#!/British-Field-Medics-and-Wounded-Soldier/p/93150517/category=20887953 Now if any company had a non ugly command squad and spotters. The metal one at WG leaves much to be desired.
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JcDent posted:Now accepting advice on how to paint Commandos to make them stand out more than just "Regulars with berets and maybe a knife."
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chutche2 posted:How do I get started on bolt action? I recommend doing what I'm doing: pick the most obscure army list that you can find and spend the next few months slowly hacking together an army out of bitz and green stuff. Or, you know, you could just pick up a totally viable starter army for any major force directly from Warlord...
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JcDent posted:Now accepting advice on how to paint Commandos to make them stand out more than just "Regulars with berets and maybe a knife." Someone is a great friend to you! The warlord commandos are an excellent kit - They already have all sorts of commando gear and unique backpacks with rope, plus a transfer sheet with insignia. Also their absurd amount of SMGs should help distinguish them.
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chutche2 posted:How do I get started on bolt action? Then convince your opponent to play Chain of Command instead, because it's a better game. 
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So while there's no flames of war here, there is Team Yankee apparently. I met some guys there last night that are going to be showing me the ropes next week. One of them is a former West German tanker who now plays with East German tanks. Go figure.
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JcDent posted:If BBC reports that a naked, Khaki-stained Lithuanian was throwing poop at the British embassy in Vilnius, it will have happened because I was gifted this: I have sort of been using Artizan Designs' paint guides, but typically the website is down right now. The Commandos' Bergen is a handy way to distinguish from the regulars, since it's very distinct from the standard pack the regulars wear, and is I believe a khaki green as opposed to the sandy/beige khaki. You could kind of flip the script and instead paint the regulars differently, since the Canadians did fight alongside the Commandos a fair few times (not just at Dieppe, but also for the Battle of the Scheldt), and their uniforms were made of a greener cloth. The only guide I can find that has any suggestions for how to acheive that is this ancient Flames of War one. I don't even know if those paints are still made any more. Also you might be interested in the Normandy Commando force selector, since that lets you bring tanks as opposed to the Raiders! Selector. Also it lets you double up on MGs for your commando sections 
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Moooooooooooon posted:I recommend doing what I'm doing: pick the most obscure army list that you can find and spend the next few months slowly hacking together an army out of bitz and green stuff. It's always good to meet another 6th RCT Brazilian Expeditionary Force player!
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I already have a set scheme for my Regulars - I had previously purchased a box myself, so I already know the pain involved in assembly, and I even have transfers already. I guess berets and Thompsons will have to do! With 50 dudes, I can probably allow myself to assemble them in a variety of ways, including doppel MGs, which aren't in the Easy Army Armies of GB reinforced platoon. I want them to support my regulars by outflanking some SMGs and maybe Fairbarn-Sykesing some dudes.
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JcDent posted:I already have a set scheme for my Regulars - I had previously purchased a box myself, so I already know the pain involved in assembly, and I even have transfers already. I guess berets and Thompsons will have to do! Berets & Thompsons & Bergens! It's actually remarkable to compare them to the packs the regulars have and see how much modern they look. I guess there's a reasons they're the template for most modern military backpacks. I actually ordered some German weapons sprues and gave some of my dudes German weapons (MG42s/MG34s in particular). It's historically accurate (for a given value of 'historically accurate', in that at least some of the RM Commandos did wind up running around with German weaponry), and they make a nice proxy for the Vickers K. The MGs fit pretty much perfectly in the Bren Gun arms. I wound up buying a box of the plastic Brit paras, and in my research I found out that the Commandos did also use a variant of the Denison Smock, so I'm actually mixing it up a bit by doing headswaps to have another section of Commandos that will be nice and visually distinctive from their compatriots. And I can use the battle bowlers with them without worrying about confusing them for regulars*, allowing me to maintain a strategic beret reserve. I salute your commitment to Fairburns-Sykesing the enemy, it's my personal favourite playstyle (some might call it a counterproductive gimmick - those people are wrong). The only to keep in mind that not all games allow outflanking. It's also worth noting that if you want to try the Normandy list, you might want to make some Commando Snipers, Light Mortars, Piats, etc. since that selector gives you the option. *I do actually use helmets on some of my 'normal' commandos, to help diversify my dudes a little more. I get around getting them mixed up with regulars by not fielding any.
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We'll see how it goes! And yes, the lack of Vickers K in the sprue is both noticeable and sad. I want my big relic gun, drat it!
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So the Perry Desert Rats sprues come with 12 figures per sprue (2 of which are prone and make for good weapons teams options like 2" mortar or Boys AT Rifle). Unlike the DAK sprue, which has a gently caress-ton of both caps and helmets, each Desert Rats sprue has...12 helmets. So if you gently caress anything up, there are no spares. Worse, the plastic itself is tan. So if you're ever so carefully trimming one of those helmets and it goes skittering off your table and lands on your beige berber carpet...  I spent like 20 minutes looking for that tiny loving helmet before I finally found it. 
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Ilor posted:So the Perry Desert Rats sprues come with 12 figures per sprue (2 of which are prone and make for good weapons teams options like 2" mortar or Boys AT Rifle). Unlike the DAK sprue, which has a gently caress-ton of both caps and helmets, each Desert Rats sprue has...12 helmets. So if you gently caress anything up, there are no spares. Worse, the plastic itself is tan. So if you're ever so carefully trimming one of those helmets and it goes skittering off your table and lands on your beige berber carpet... My model-building space is in our spare room which used to have shag carpet the same grey color as most plastic sprues, meaning anything that I dropped into it was pretty much lost forever. When we finally replaced it I took the carpet outside and shook it upside down and dozens of little bits fell out onto the ground.
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Colonial Air Force posted:Buy the rulebook. Buy some minis. you realize you can make 6 women soldiers from the dreamforge soviet box right?
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 I painted some dudes from the 1st/2nd Crusades. The bases are a bit boring at the moment because I ran out of suitably middle-eastern looking grass.
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Ilor posted:So the Perry Desert Rats sprues come with 12 figures per sprue (2 of which are prone and make for good weapons teams options like 2" mortar or Boys AT Rifle). Unlike the DAK sprue, which has a gently caress-ton of both caps and helmets, each Desert Rats sprue has...12 helmets. So if you gently caress anything up, there are no spares. Worse, the plastic itself is tan. So if you're ever so carefully trimming one of those helmets and it goes skittering off your table and lands on your beige berber carpet... I just put mine together and ran into the same issue. Clipped off some of the heads which shot across the room and landed in the carpet. Gone forever.
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Cessna posted:It's always good to meet another 6th RCT Brazilian Expeditionary Force player! That's an interesting choice, I wonder why...  Ah. Colonial Air Force posted:supplement them with minis from Bad Squiddo so you have some women in the ranks. I'd kill to have some women in my 8th Route Army force.    Also, there's an oil painter out there with a serious hard on for female Chinese civil war soldiers.   Endman posted:
I very briefly thought that the standard bearer had a penguin on his shoulder. How did you paint the putees? I've tried painting and inking with various washes but they always come out looking like a mess. Do you do the black first and then the white over them? Moooooooooooon fucked around with this message at 08:38 on Mar 30, 2018 |
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Hey there, sailor, wanna tread on me?
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:you realize you can make 6 women soldiers from the dreamforge soviet box right? Sure. But I like supporting Bad Squiddo, and they look better.
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Moooooooooooon posted:Also, there's an oil painter out there with a serious hard on for female Chinese civil war soldiers. There's a whole branch of the PLA that's just attractive singers and performers, both male and female. Peng Liyuan, the "first lady" of China, is a general in the PLA and the extent of her duties is pop singer and propaganda maven.
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Battlefront's new soft plastic soldiermans are atrocious. I have a box of the old metal Soviet infantry, and bought a box of the new plastic ones mostly out of curiosity. There are the obvious soft plastic problems (all the LMGs are banana shaped right out of the box, can't bend them back), but the overall quality is incredibly bad.  The painted guy is a old metal one. It's a 15mm model, so the detail isn't amazing, but he is holding what is quite clearly a AK with a grenade launcher. The AK has some detailing, too. The plastic dudes are holding weird boxy GI-Joe guns, and their faces are like deeply unsettling skull-people. Their proportions are also way out of whack (look at those loving hands!). I usually prefer plastics to metal but god-drat
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Geisladisk posted:Battlefront's new soft plastic soldiermans are atrocious. I have a box of the old metal Soviet infantry, and bought a box of the new plastic ones mostly out of curiosity. The faces are at least better than the north africa stuff, which just didn't really have them at all.
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spectralent posted:The faces are at least better than the north africa stuff, which just didn't really have them at all. These guys, by contrast, have way too much face. They can't seem to hit the right amount of face! All the hard plastic vehicles I have from BF are really good, and the crewmen that come with them are too. These giant-handed gorilla-faced GI-Joe laser-shooting soft plastic turds can gently caress right off.
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