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Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

Roboktnik was a Polish socialist magazine.

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Digamma-F-Wau
Mar 22, 2016

It is curious and wants to accept all kinds of challenges
One weird rear end early thing that must've been in the western series bible at one point is the idea of a backstory where Robotnik and Sonic grew up together. It was only used twice: This weird early kids book, and the last issue of the original Archie miniseries (which had some pages tacked on at the start to have it be an "imaginary story")

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

oh my god what if the Mario animated movie is successful enough that it leads into an Avengers-esque Super Smash Brothers movie?

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Sakurai steps out of the shadows. "I'd like to talk to you about the Smash Initiative." He lifts his hand to reveal it clad in a white glove.

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

Congratulations The One Concern!!!

You're addicted to Ivory!!

and...oh my...could you please...
oh my...

Grimey Drawer
This seems like the place to put this
https://trib.al/4bQxKZN

Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006



College Slice
I hope the animated Spice Girls are as terrifying as the stop motion ones from “Viva Forever”.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Personally, I really really want a ziggah zig aaaah.

Shadow Hog
Feb 23, 2014

Avatar by Jon Davies
JelloApocalypse moved his Every [company] movie in 10 words or less series on to Pixar.

Also is gonna do lengthier reviews for these marathons on his Patreon; to illustrate what he's planning, he's put out one for the Pixar marathon, which is available to non-Patrons as well. Future ones won't be!

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Shadow Hog posted:

JelloApocalypse moved his Every [company] movie in 10 words or less series on to Pixar.

Also is gonna do lengthier reviews for these marathons on his Patreon; to illustrate what he's planning, he's put out one for the Pixar marathon, which is available to non-Patrons as well. Future ones won't be!

"Toy Story 3 is basically Toy Story 2, but better in every way"

Uh, Toy Story 2 is a road-trip style adventure movie while Toy Story 3 is more of a prison break film. Like, if you boil them down to one sentence descriptions of the basic plots then yeah, they're the same general idea of eventually children grow up and don't play with their toys anymore, but those are background ideas in the two movies, and they both take them in different directions anyway. Otherwise the tone and style of each movie is really different, Toy Story 2 is more lighthearted adventure times while Toy Story 3 is far more dynamically dramatic, basically anytime Toy Story 2 would have told a joke, Toy Story 3 would try to raise the stakes. Agreed though that neither movie really knows what to do with Buzz so they redo the whole "doesn't know he's a toy" thing instead of something new.

I haven't listened to the whole podcast thing cause I'm going to bed right now but I'm getting the impression that he's more interested in talking about the movies at their most basic level, more about what they did the same than what they did differently.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
Toy Story 2 and 3 are both lame cash grabs.

Sinners Sandwich
Jan 4, 2012

Give me your friend's BURGERS and SANDWICHES, I'll put out the fire.

Phylodox posted:

I hope the animated Spice Girls are as terrifying as the stop motion ones from “Viva Forever”.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wkuqRFXNvI

Jesus

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!
I like Lotso he's a good villain

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
I like the Nostalgia Chick videos (though I'm only like 70% in agreement with her on things) but I am especially grateful she pointed out the existence of this incredibly gay pin, which of course I immediately purchased.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


Shadow Hog posted:

JelloApocalypse moved his Every [company] movie in 10 words or less series on to Pixar.

Also is gonna do lengthier reviews for these marathons on his Patreon; to illustrate what he's planning, he's put out one for the Pixar marathon, which is available to non-Patrons as well. Future ones won't be!

Pff, Penguins of Madagascar is bad but Dragons 2 is good? This guy has some messed up taste.

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

Ccs posted:

Pff, Penguins of Madagascar is bad

Thank you for warning me before I got tricked into watching a very bad video.

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Macaluso posted:

Thank you for warning me before I got tricked into watching a very bad video.

I get hating Madagascar (well, the first and second at least) but Penguins of Madagascar was nonstop madcap slapstick silliness with some surprisingly excellent animation, how can you not find at least some enjoyment in it? I guess if he didn’t like that kind of stuff then whatever but then he gave Road to El Dorado like a 7/10 so I don’t even know.

Actually are there any other recent animated films that scratch that Penguins/Emperors New Groove “the film is an excuse to have as much silly cartoony fun as possible” itch? Captain Underpants came pretty close, as did Thor: Ragnarok (not an animated film, I know, but it felt like one a lot of the time).

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


A bit of animation history, an interview with veteran animator from WB, UPA, Hanna-Barbera and many other studios during the Golden Age.

quote:

I never liked Milt Kahl; I didn't like what he did with people. I loved Ken Harris's animation, but Ken Harris was an rear end in a top hat sometimes. We used to argue, because he was terribly right-wing; he was almost a fascist.

quote:

Warner Bros. was the cheapest company in the world. At all those big studios, those guys who were the big wheels [owned] the sweatshops in the garment district in New York. They went to L.A. and became producers, and they took the garment-district mentality into the film industry.

quote:

Benny I always loved; we worked at UPA on Gay Purr-ee together, and we were drinking a lot; the only problem was, we were both drinking too much. We both quit; he quit because if he hadn't, he probably would have died of cirrhosis of the liver or whatever.

quote:

Chuck is looking grumpier and grumpier every day; and he's not talking to me. I don't know why. I'm doing the next story, which is a Martian something, and I'm doing some story followup; either that, or I'm writing a Coyote and Road-Runner thing. He finally peeks in the door—he's in the room right next to me—and he says, "Corny, I've got to talk with you. Come into my room." He's got all this storyboard in front of him; he's got a few of my drawings down, and he's got all these scribbles, scratched over. He's been on this thing for five weeks, and he can't do anything with it. He says, "I can't do this." I said, "What's wrong?" "This is not my Daffy Duck."

After six weeks of doing this storyboard, and getting a response from everybody, laughing, and knowing that the one reason he can't draw is that he's tied down by my drawing—he's not tied down by the story, but he doesn't know how to work to take it from there. There's too much information for him to work with, so he's not happy. He doesn't like it, because it isn't him. He's really angry by this time; he's forgotten who I am. Being quick-tempered and a little annoyed by this time—because I didn't know that he wasn't going to do this story—I looked at him and I said, "You know what, Chuck? You can take your Daffy Duck and you can ram him up your rear end in a top hat."

http://www.michaelbarrier.com/Interviews/Cole/Cole_Interview.html

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
You just articulated the problem I had with CU, holy poo poo. I remember being kind of annoyed that every time the movie seems like it's about to have some degree of confidence in itself, BAM, FART JOKE, EVIL TOILETS, PEOPLE NAMED POOP, CAN'T HAVE THE KIDS REMEMBERING THIS AS AN ACTUAL MOVIE.

but it's not really the substance of the jokes that's the issue. it's that the movie can't decide if it wants to be a goofy madcap comedy like Penguins or do something a little headier, and ends up trying to constantly flip-flop between the two approaches. and the movie is like a thousand times better at heart than at poo jokes.

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

The Ayshkerbundy posted:

Hotel Transylvania having god-teir animation and ehhHHHhhh-tier writing is probably the the pinnacle of this quality divide

Speaking of great animation with mediocre writing, I took the kid to Sherlock Gnomes today. At least it held her attention for the entire running time, which is more than Peter Rabbit managed to do. The theater was half empty, so I doubt we'll be seeing any more sequels (until Elton wants to wring a few more pounds' worth of royalties out of his back catalog, at least). There were some fun bits where the movie went inside Sherlock's head, which were in black-and-white hand-drawn animation, but otherwise it was a by-the-numbers slog.

Selachian fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Mar 26, 2018

Squarely Circle
Jul 28, 2010

things worsen and worsen

This is incredible

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

Selachian posted:

Speaking of great animation with mediocre writing, I took the kid to Sherlock Gnomes today.

:psyduck:

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

Neat. Sweet. Petite.

Is it me, or does the Manekei-neko in the trailer look very unfortunate

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

Ccs posted:

A bit of animation history, an interview with veteran animator from WB, UPA, Hanna-Barbera and many other studios during the Golden Age

http://www.michaelbarrier.com/Interviews/Cole/Cole_Interview.html

god just the name "Termite Terrace" really draws a picture, but these stories are kinda incredible:

quote:

Cole: Yes. We worked in what they called Termite Terrace for six months, almost eight months before they tore it down and moved us over to the other place. Willie and I worked there for about a year, maybe. That final day, they just totally demolished the building. They tore down all the pipes, they tore down all the walls. We had a huge party; everybody got bombed out of their minds, and we tore up the whole building, inside out.

Barrier: Willie said they were rolling big trash cans down the hall.

Cole: Oh, God! It was horrendous. Somebody came for a job interview, and we were hanging off the pipes like apes.

They had a hole on the top floor, and you could drop things on people down below. These guys used to pee on top of the guy below them. Some of the jokes—Chuck Jones did a terrible joke on me that last day. We were in there, and I was doing work; I'd come in bombed after lunch, and then I would work in the afternoon. He took my chair and he sawed it, all the way down and all the way up to the top; and he put it all back together. Everybody was sitting there and they were waiting. When I sat in the chair, it collapsed. Well, I could have broken my back. It pissed me off. You can see that even though I had just started off as an assistant in the unit, there was this sort of hostility toward my drawing.

I went to Hawaii to surf in the big waves one winter. Instead of staying three weeks, I stayed four weeks; we took what we called the rubber-band flight, which was a slow plane. When I came back, they were going to give me a cake; they had a cake to present to me, and it sat on my desk. It wasn't a cake—it was horseshit, with candles in it. The trouble was, it stayed there for two weeks, because I was coming in two weeks late. When I got back, and I opened up this cake—it was all sealed and everything—there were lice crawling in it and everything; it was awful. So the gag sort of backfired; because poor Dick Thompson had to go into that room and work. They never thought to remove the cake; they just left it on my desk. We weren't the brightest group.

LeJackal
Apr 5, 2011

Pick posted:

I like the Nostalgia Chick videos (though I'm only like 70% in agreement with her on things) but I am especially grateful she pointed out the existence of this incredibly gay pin, which of course I immediately purchased.



Where can you buy this, I must know!

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
I got mine on eBay for $10. Just type “Ratigan pin”. If it’s sold out there is also a rad one of him villainously coveting a random ice cream sundae

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
I love the Let Me Be Good to You pin because it is such a lazy combination of the three things people remember from that movie but whoops lol it’s the sendup to someone’s fanfic magnum opus

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink

Pick posted:

I love the Let Me Be Good to You pin because it is such a lazy combination of the three things people remember from that movie but whoops lol it’s the sendup to someone’s fanfic magnum opus

Let's be real: "Sherlock except he's a tiny fuzzy animal" is already a fanfic.

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!
So I'm finally watching Coco and I'm about 18 minutes in.

I'm finding it interesting how this is one of the few times, as a white dude, I don't at all relate to the characters in a movie. At least so far. I don't mean for this to sound like a complaint either. I'm not saying it's bad at all, I find it interesting, because I imagine mexican people relate to this stuff a lot. Because the family dynamic, to me, as a non-mexican, is so insane to me I can't personally relate to it. If my own flesh and blood grandma tried to act like the grandma in this movie does I'd tell her to shove it up her rear end. There seems to be this hierarchy of family that is unquestioned and that's just not how my family is at all

edit: The land of the dead is gorgeous. I've always adored the Day of the Dead aesthetic so much

Macaluso fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Mar 27, 2018

IUG
Jul 14, 2007


Since the Gravity Falls thread is long since closed:

https://twitter.com/_AlexHirsch/status/978667402064875521

I am going to buy a $80 bluray, I don't even care.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
Gravity Falls was too good for this world.


I'm kidding, actually glad that it ended after two seasons. Now it can live forever as a 100% good thing versus a thing that was good and turned to crap

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

Neat. Sweet. Petite.

I tried getting into it, but between tumblr not knowing how not to spoil poo poo and batshit fans of the dorito I got turned off pretty fast

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!
Well Coco was really good. Gorgeous movie. Even with the twist being obvious from like second one of the movie, it didn't make the story any less satisfying. I didn't like the dog, I'm sorry folks. It was interesting seeing a movie with SUCH a different cultural background than mine. The family stuff is just very very different from my own as a white dude.

The movie also reminded me how good it is when Pixar does a movie that isn't a sequel. I've loved most of their sequels but there's something magical about a movie with a setting they haven't done before. With the exception of The Good Dinosaur.

Robindaybird posted:

I tried getting into it, but between tumblr not knowing how not to spoil poo poo and batshit fans of the dorito I got turned off pretty fast

It took me a second to realize you weren't talking about Steven Universe here :v:

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010

Ultra Carp

Robindaybird posted:

I tried getting into it, but between tumblr not knowing how not to spoil poo poo and batshit fans of the dorito I got turned off pretty fast

I'd recommend trying again, it's a great show on its own merits and while the mystery aspects were fun, they're ultimately second in importance to the family dynamics.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
I hate that dumb Coco dog too. Story wise lazy as hell.

Digamma-F-Wau
Mar 22, 2016

It is curious and wants to accept all kinds of challenges
I have a burning hatred for whoever the gently caress you pissed off enough that they got you a new avatar

Digamma-F-Wau fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Mar 27, 2018

Shadow Hog
Feb 23, 2014

Avatar by Jon Davies

Macaluso posted:

The movie also reminded me how good it is when Pixar does a movie that isn't a sequel. I've loved most of their sequels but there's something magical about a movie with a setting they haven't done before. With the exception of The Good Dinosaur.
Honestly, even that one had its moments - the soundtrack to the firefly scene still kind of haunts me. It's just a shame that there wasn't enough tying those moments together into a great film, leaving us with a merely kind of mediocre one.

I agree, though, I think I might like the original stuff more than the sequels. I mean, I'm sort of interested in Wreck-It Ralph! 2, even if the setting seems rather far removed from the original to the point that you wonder why they're making this beyond money (maybe it'll become clearer once the film's actually out?), but I'm genuinely curious as to what original property or adaptation WDAS is bringing out next. So, it's a tad annoying that we only have two sequels with Wreck-It Ralph! 2 and Frozen 2 as WDAS's entire lineup for the immediate future - and no D23 to reveal much until 2019. (I mean, they'll probably announce something outside of a D23 - I'm honestly not sure where they tend to announce their projects, but I imagine an investor meeting or similar wouldn't be far off the mark.)

...even if I want a Zootopia 2 too (with the foreknowledge that there's no way it could possibly live up to the first).

And yes, I know that's largely WDAS-focused when your comment was more about Pixar, but a lot of that applies to Pixar as well (all I know about their upcoming library is Incredibles 2 and the rather-unnecessary Toy Story 4), so :ssh:

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
Animation is lean as gently caress these next few years.

Whiz Palace
Dec 8, 2013

Shadow Hog posted:

...even if I want a Zootopia 2 too (with the foreknowledge that there's no way it could possibly live up to the first).

Have Phil Lord and Chris Miller direct it like a Jump Street sequel.

Looper
Mar 1, 2012
Have any of the Disney live action remakes failed to make more money than their animated counterparts?

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asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

IUG posted:

Since the Gravity Falls thread is long since closed:

https://twitter.com/_AlexHirsch/status/978667402064875521

I AM GOING TO PREORDER THI---


I AM GOING TO WAIT FOR A BLACK FRIDAY SALE FOR THIS

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