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That Vulture piece is nothing more than a greatest hits collection of the SOLO rumours that have been flying around and is most likely bullshit. For a start off, Lord and Miller were fired way before TLJ even came out and I'm pretty sure the Howard version of the movie was done with principal photography when TLJ was still playing, so this idea that there's pressure that's come down from Disney because TLJ underperformed is nonsense. It may have come in slightly under predictions, but it's currently what, the 9th highest grossing movie of all time. Yeah, I'm sure Disney is quaking over the future of STAR WARS when the last movie made 1.3 billion dollars. Also, acting coaches are as ubiquitous as reshoots. That the story treats this as 'unprecedented' tells you that it's come from someone who doesn't know what they're talking about.
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Wheat Loaf posted:I knew it. Analyst predictions, not Disney's. Jesus, we've been over this--that exact WSJ article, in fact--already in this thread. What is with your pathological obsession with insisting that Last Jedi under-performed? Timby fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Mar 27, 2018 |
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Harrow posted:I don't know what it says about me that I unironically find BotL's posts extremely entertaining but, well, here we are That's sort of the gaping difference between ESB and TLJ, which are inversions of each other in their specific narrative beats, but also in their focus. We have no idea how the rest of the rebellion is doing in ESB. We don't know how many escaped, how they set up that base on Hoth, where the next base is, who supplies them, because it's entirely about Han, Leia and Luke. TLJ tries to make the Resistance, the First Order and their tactics/strategy kind of make sense, which is tricky, because they never made sense before. They never had to, because they were never the focus.
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Watching The Last Jedi and just noticed that Yoda tells Luke as the library burns down "there is nothing in that library that the girl Rey does not already possess." Yoda, still a smug prick after all these years.
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Basebf555 posted:Watching The Last Jedi and just noticed that Yoda tells Luke as the library burns down "there is nothing in that library that the girl Rey does not already possess." Yoda, still a smug prick after all these years. Good ol' 'Certain Point of View' Jedi speak
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Basebf555 posted:Watching The Last Jedi and just noticed that Yoda tells Luke as the library burns down "there is nothing in that library that the girl Rey does not already possess." Yoda, still a smug prick after all these years. yoda's little scene was the best part of that movie that didn't involve adam driver being on-screen
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josh04 posted:'Exclusive insider' tacitly applauds every action multinational corporation take, how unusual. the source, who chose to remain nameless, adjusted his baseball cap as he spoke
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Yoda's scene is emblematic of TLJ's greater problem of being unwilling to state anything plainly. Luke belief that the Jedi failed both as an institution and as a religion culminates in him (or Yoda?) destroying the last of the Jedi writings, evidently content that Rey is going forward on a new path. This is then undercut by the revelation that Rey had taken the writings, and that Yoda knew of this. Does that mean that the Jedi were wrong and that Rey has damned herself to follow in their footsteps? But if so, why would Yoda be happy about that? Does Yoda disagree that the Jedi had failed, ignoring that whole debacle where their actions helped lead to the dissolution of the government and decades of tyranny? If not, what should we take from his approval of the theft? It isn't ambiguous so much as confusing.
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It's the motif of teachers and successors. Luke has made his judgment, and it wasn't wrong but, Yoda deemed it more important that his pupil be the one to decide what to do about it.
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Also, the Jedi failing in their later years doesn't mean the early Jedi were also failures. A new order, returning to the original ideal before they became part of the government, might be good. ..and then they might fall again and rise again.
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Schwarzwald posted:This is then undercut by the revelation that Rey had taken the writings, and that Yoda knew of this. Has this explicitly been revealed yet? Everyone assumes it but we don't see the texts on the Falcon or anything.
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Maxwell Lord posted:Has this explicitly been revealed yet? Everyone assumes it but we don't see the texts on the Falcon or anything. Uh...yes we do? 
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So does everyone just read the same language in the Star Wars universe?
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Maxwell Lord posted:Has this explicitly been revealed yet? Everyone assumes it but we don't see the texts on the Falcon or anything. Yeah, watch the movie again. A drawer on the Falcon is open, and we explicitly see them. Like, the fact that you mention not seeing them on the Falcon makes me think this post is satire, since we see exactly that.
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It’s a very quick shot
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CelticPredator posted:It’s a very quick shot yeah it comes so fast i didn't even recognize what the books were and was confused as to what the point of that scene was until i got online
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hiddenriverninja posted:So does everyone just read the same language in the Star Wars universe? There's a lot of different alphabets in use in the series, actually http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Alphabets Depends on which planet or part of the galaxy you're in
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MonsieurChoc posted:Also, the Jedi failing in their later years doesn't mean the early Jedi were also failures. A new order, returning to the original ideal before they became part of the government, might be good. That's just Star Wars for you, throughout all the books and games and comics since 1983; the Jedi fail and fall, the Sith return and the Empire always strikes back. The chronological last story in the old EU was about an Old Republic Jedi who fell to the dark side returning 100 years after the movies as a Sith Lord and leading the reformed Empire to destroy the Jedi Order and overthrow the New Republic.
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Wheat Loaf posted:That's just Star Wars for you, throughout all the books and games and comics since 1983; the Jedi fail and fall, the Sith return and the Empire always strikes back. I think there was a Cracked article, quite a while ago, showing how the EU just kept repeating itself over and over, with new jedi who inevitably fall to the dark side. There were also a whole bunch of versions of the death star.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Also, the Jedi failing in their later years doesn't mean the early Jedi were also failures. A new order, returning to the original ideal before they became part of the government, might be good. i mean the jedi's biggest problem in the prequels is basically their fear of "sith oppression" and an unwillingness to adapt to anakin's needs
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Elfgames posted:i mean the jedi's biggest problem in the prequels is basically their fear of "sith oppression" and an unwillingness to adapt to anakin's needs Also that as 'guardians of the peace' they're pretty loving useless.
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I had actually seen this movie during its release and didn't feel the need to post about - not because I didn't like the movie but because talking about Star Wars online can get really, really weird and frustrating sometimes. But seeing it on store shelves got me inspired to dive in. Not having read any of the last 7,000 posts, I'm sure we already discussed to death how the The Last Jedi is a quasi-apologia for running the Star Wars franchise into the ground, right? The jedi in the movie being a metaphor for Star Wars in general and all that. Well, I appreciated this direction the filmmakers took. I was pretty much Luke Skywalker, nearly skipping on this movie because I didn't think we needed anymore Star Wars movies and feeling a touch resentful (to a small degree, I promise - I realize it's just a movie) that The Force Awakens kind of ruined the ending to the original trilogy*. Then this movie, like Yoda appearing before Luke, basically says "Yes in a way it does suck that they won't stop making Star Wars movies, but there's not really anything we can do about that, there are forces (har) larger than us at work here, we just have to make the best of the situation (i.e., try to make as good a Star Wars movie as we can)." It put a smile on my face and got me to be a better sport about this whole Star Wars thing. *(Funny enough, with just one line The Last Jedi kind of fixes this for me. "For many years the galaxy was at peace..." Honestly I think this was all I needed. The Force Awakens made it seem like the war just kind of never really ended. (In general, I also felt this got the look and feel of a Star Wars movie down more than The Force Awakens did, which felt a tad 'off', like I was watching a really good impression of Star Wars rather than the actual thing.)) Another nifty thing about this movie is that the idea of "The Force is the characters' vague understanding that their lives are scripted" has always been a favorite theory of mine and this one comes the closest to validating it. You have freakin' Rey saying out loud "I just want to know what my part is in all of this!", just one step away from asking "What's the point of my character?" Definitely the most meta of the Star Wars movies. Speaking of Rey, though, I think the biggest flaw in the movie is the massive missed opportunity for this character. We learn that her parents are nobodies who sold her into slavery - and more importantly that she knew this the entire time and couldn't bring herself to admit it - and we get no real reaction from her at all. We could've - should've - seen her bare her soul here. We are now 2/3 of the way through this apparent trilogy and I still don't feel like I really know Rey at all. It's to Daisy Ridley's credit that I still want to stick by her character and root for her regardless because with a less engaging actress I can see myself giving up on her.
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It's really telling that the Star Wars instagram posted a mini-clip of a new scene from Solo, a movie that is coming up in two months, but even the Star Wars Leaks subreddit hasn't posted it and are instead watching the TLJ blooper reel
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tbf the blooper reel is amazing edit also link i don't see no mini clip Jerkface fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Mar 28, 2018 |
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Jerkface posted:tbf the blooper reel is amazing I'm guessing OP meant this: https://www.instagram.com/p/BgwFB_oBY7c/?hl=en&taken-by=starwars Which is hard to even call a "mini clip", however you'd define that.
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Wasn't that clip from one of the trailers in any case? That's not new.
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https://twitter.com/mlukebrown/status/978991959946743811?s=21
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Soggy Cereal posted:It's also in the name. It's an order that thinks of itself as "first," as in hearkening back to a previous time, and superior. Timby posted:Analyst predictions, not Disney's. Jesus, we've been over this--that exact WSJ article, in fact--already in this thread. What is with your pathological obsession with insisting that Last Jedi under-performed?
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I collect these things and even that was a bit too much for me but thankfully only comes in the deluxe box. 
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Great angle.
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thrawn527 posted:I'm guessing OP meant this: Teek posted:Wasn't that clip from one of the trailers in any case? That's not new. yikes well in fairness i cant remember anything from the trailer
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CelticPredator posted:Great angle. Even Obi-Wan is impressed by Palpatine's Schwartz
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CelticPredator posted:Great angle. "I seen you"
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Guys, HUGE plot hole in The Last Jedi! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPg__kEZ6YM
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Can you spoil it for me so I don't have to waste time watching a video?
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The MSJ posted:Guys, HUGE plot hole in The Last Jedi! Everyone in Star Wars is just a really big Full House fan.
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Auralnauts Episode 6 is coming this Friday. I think I'm more excited about this than Solo. https://twitter.com/Auralnauts/status/980501369865023488
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Shanty posted:They don't have citizens and FN's backstory sort of establishes that all the storm troopers have been brainwashed since childhood anyway, so it's doubly pointless. It's just a massive ego-stroke for Hux. It's the trappings of fascism applied to, I guess, feudal lordship? Again, it's sort of unclear what the New Order actually are, since their relationship with the rest of the galaxy is so obscure. 2 movies in.
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SimonCat posted:Can you spoil it for me so I don't have to waste time watching a video? It's a pretty complicated and far-reaching reading. I don't know if somebody could just sum it up in a post.
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Lord Hydronium posted:Auralnauts Episode 6 is coming this Friday. I think I'm more excited about this than Solo. cannot loving wait end of an era  any idea if theyre doing ST
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