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evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Julius CSAR posted:

If you're not getting close to either business end of an aircraft, running or otherwise, you're not working on aircraft, sorry. Five feet from spinning props is all you need, and if you get bonked by a moving control surface you're a loving total idiot and should not be around aircraft ever holy poo poo.

I tripped over a comm cable one night while I was on ground and fell underneath the APU exhaust outlet, which on a B-1 is between the two engines, one for each side of the jet. There's only about three feet of clearance down there and I got a nice look directly into the APU compressor chamber. Time compression kicked in, so It all happened in slow motion so I could see the fuel being combusted and actually saw the compressor blades spinning, just before the exhaust blew me out of the way. It was like looking into the loving Eye of Sauron. My buddies doing the ops check emergency shut the down after the heard me yelling on the intercom. I was shaking, and it wasn't till I was back on the truck and someone said it smelled like something was burning that I realized I'd singed most of eyebrows off. I was mad pissed at myself for such a complete fuckup. It still shakes me up to this day when I think about it. But that glowing ring of death is forever burned into my memory.
You accepting to work in unsafe conditions doesn’t mean others have to.

Hur Hur lookit that moran tripping on a cable what are you 6?

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DiHK
Feb 4, 2013

by Azathoth
Hmm, so I was thinking: what of instead of airstrip we used large treadmills for takeoff amd landing.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

This amazing bridge was built expressly to let the Blackface Regatta prowl the waterways.

Space Kablooey
May 6, 2009


DiHK posted:

Hmm, so I was thinking: what of instead of airstrip we used large treadmills for takeoff amd landing.

somthing somethign bike 400 pounds of concrete

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

evobatman posted:

From my hometown.



nope
nope
nope
nope

You grew up in a snowglobe?!

Xaintrailles
Aug 14, 2015

:hellyeah::histdowns:

Is that a caravan middle-left? Tell me someone doesn't live in that.

Imagined
Feb 2, 2007

She'll go 300 hectares on a single tank of kerosene.

ewiley
Jul 9, 2003

More trash for the trash fire

Imagined posted:

She'll go 300 hectares on a single tank of kerosene.

Put it in H!

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

evobatman posted:

From my hometown.



nope
nope
nope
nope
Where is this Norway?

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Collateral Damage posted:

I feel like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Fire_disasters_involving_barricaded_escape_routes should be required loving reading for anyone who operates a public space of any kind.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamlet_chicken_processing_plant_fire

quote:

An inspection of the floorplan shows that 12 of the victims died of smoke inhalation and several more were injured when they ran into the freezer in a panic rather than to the front of the building.
:gonk:

and yes, this kind of thinking here:

quote:

An extensive fire was considered unlikely because of a lack of flammable materials throughout the complex, other than packing materials in the rear.
turns out to be:

quote:

The fire was caused by failure of a hydraulic line which powered a conveyor belt supplying the cooker vat. When the original line developed a leak, a worker originally replaced it with new line and with new connections. Later the line, which was too long and created a tripping hazard, was shortened, but in the process the worker replaced the new end connector with the old fitting.

When the line with a customized connector was brought up to normal operating pressure, it separated from the connector at between 800 and 1,500 psi (5,500–10,300 kPa). Hydraulic fluid spattered onto the heating lines for the cooker and immediately vaporized. This vapor then went directly into the flame of the gas-fired cooker. The vapor had a relatively low flash point and erupted into a fireball. The ruptured hydraulic line then pumped 50 to 55 US gallons (40–45 imp. gal/190–210 L) of hydraulic fluid into the fire before electrical failure shut it down.

Chillbro Baggins
Oct 8, 2004
Bad Angus! Bad!
There's a recycling storage place here that burns every other year or so. My clothes I bought the day before and was wearing when I covered it still smell like smoke.



I'm surprised it didn't burn my eyebrows off.

Chillbro Baggins fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Mar 28, 2018

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

Nenonen posted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamlet_chicken_processing_plant_fire


:gonk:

and yes, this kind of thinking here:

turns out to be:

This is not far from my house

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
There's a recycling plant here that burned last year, and while it was burning they were like "It's OK, don't worry, the smoke is thick but it's just paper and cardboard, no need to... Oh wait poo poo that's a funny colour maybe everyone stay indoors just to be safe".

Also someone stole the portable air monitor from the firefighters that were attending so they couldn't report what it actually was.

Also also after the fire started there was a lot of "Hang on who let people build their homes right next to a recycling centre?" and lots of shifty eyes going on from current and former politicians for the area.

Chillbro Baggins
Oct 8, 2004
Bad Angus! Bad!

Memento posted:

There's a recycling plant here that burned last year, and while it was burning they were like "It's OK, don't worry, the smoke is thick but it's just paper and cardboard, no need to... Oh wait poo poo

I was editing in a photo when you posted this, but yeah, there is a point when "just paper and cardboard" itself is bad for you.

If it looks like this, run away:



My editors were blowing up my phone telling me to get my rear end over there. I saw the smoke cloud leaving the house, and was already there when they started texting me, and ignored them because I was doing my loving job.



Edit: all firefighters pictured are [city]'s bravest, they called in all the volunteer squads and off-duty professionals who were stupid enough to pick up the phone on their day off within 50 miles to cover their stations/swap out once the local force got dehydrated.

I went to a black-tie charity ball that evening around the time the fire was finally put out. Same business-casual clothes, still reeking of smoke. My Managing Editor at the time was a paying guest/big donator. "Hey, Delivery, you got some good photos of the fire, I take it?" was all she said to me.

Chillbro Baggins fucked around with this message at 04:52 on Mar 28, 2018

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Delivery McGee posted:

There's a recycling storage place here that burns every other year or so. My clothes I bought the day before and was wearing when I covered it still smell like smoke.



I'm surprised it didn't burn my eyebrows off.

Condolences on your future aggressive cancer.

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

Nenonen posted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamlet_chicken_processing_plant_fire


:gonk:

and yes, this kind of thinking here:

turns out to be:

Hey there's a song about this by Mojo Nixon and Jello Biafra

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyU-PvbOjlo

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

OMBUDSMAN
POSTERS LOCAL 42069




Clapping Larry

a kitten posted:

Hey there's a song about this by Mojo Nixon and Jello Biafra

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyU-PvbOjlo

hgow did I not know about this collaboration

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time
The best thing about Mojo Nixon is he now hosts a country music show on Sirius XM.

Hispanic! At The Disco
Dec 25, 2011


Gunshow Poophole posted:

hgow did I not know about this collaboration

I have a chrome extension that lets me play youtube links inline, so I got to listen to that song wile watching your avatar dance to it.

Chillbro Baggins
Oct 8, 2004
Bad Angus! Bad!

Platystemon posted:

Condolences on your future aggressive cancer.

Condolences to my heirs trying to sue the newspaper. I drink like a sailor and smoke like a fish. Well, half of that is funny, I guess.

But yeah that probably took a couple years off my life. IDK if the EXIF data survives the upload to imgur, but those were all shot with a 17-35mm lens on a DX-format Nikon. I was just close enough to avoid losing my eyebrows.

The TV guy, twice my age, pulled a full bunker suit out of his trunk and ... mostly stood right beside me, because they'll only let you get so close. He was more comfortable at the scene/smelled better at his next gig, though.

I think he's retired now, but the Channel 7 guy and I got along well, both being cynical bastards. We bummed cigarettes off each other alternately every time we rushed out to that company's new location on a false alarm.

therobit posted:

The best thing about Mojo Nixon is he now hosts a country music show on Sirius XM.

If you like Rebel Radio in GTAV, you'll love his show. That's not a joke, it's just like the station in the game but not a joke.

Chillbro Baggins fucked around with this message at 05:34 on Mar 28, 2018

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

a kitten posted:

Hey there's a song about this by Mojo Nixon and Jello Biafra

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyU-PvbOjlo

That dig on yankee carpetbaggers is pretty loving rich considering so much racial tension erupted afterward that there are two seperate memorials and the black neighborhood around the site of the plant incorporated itself as the new town of Dobbins Heights just so they would never have to count on the Hamlet Fire Dept. again.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/2002/11/10/still-burning/388cbc7d-1b99-41ed-9cfc-f0f8dd22a813/?utm_term=.54417c3f4d74

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug

Grouchio posted:

Where is this Norway?

A few minutes outside of Honningsvåg in northern Norway, so yes, basically a snowglobe for much of the year, although the cost has a very mild climate compared to the inland.

That is a caravan on the left, but this is a picture of someones cabin, so it's uninhabited. They were planning on going there for easter, but nope'd out after a neighbor sent them the picture.

Banana Man
Oct 2, 2015

mm time 2 gargle piss and shit
All this fire talk reminds me of the Great White fire. The video was pretty haunting :(



(the numbers being the number of bodies in each of those areas respectively)

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Pablo Bluth posted:

The bit I was talking about isn't in the video. Its a harrier landing where they tried to use a bunch of mattresses. The blaze seem to be the only one's to have kept a copy of the images that originated on a now broken webforum posting. I hadn't twigged TheBlaze was Becks thing.

here are some pictures. i thought there was a video but I might have been mistaken.

https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/6lc3sx/harrier_landing_on_an_unconventional_landing_pad/

quote:


This comes under the heading "truth is sometimes stranger than fiction".

That is a TAV-8B assigned to VMAT-203 in Cherry Point. They experienced hung landing gear (repeat gripe on that jet) and contacted base for troubleshooting. The EP involves cycling some circuit breakers, cycling the gear, and requesting visual inspection. If none of that works (which it didn't), you blow down the gear.

At some point, the squadron let the MAG CO what was going on (for what reason, I have no idea). He was worried that if they blew the gear down and the nose gear still hung up, it would crack the frame of one of the scarce T-birds. He directed that the pilot do a gear up vertical landing. It would crush the strakes and probably FOD the motor, but it's better than cracking the frame. He directed the mattresses to be placed under the nose.

When the pilot heard about all of this, he refused to do it unless he heard it directly from the MAG CO. The MAG CO got on the radio and told him to do it. The landing was pretty unremarkable, despite the photos. The damage was limited to the engine (Fodded), and the strakes (crushed). Expensive, but not the end of the world. When they jacked it up, they we able to blow the gear down with no problems.

This is when the story gets even weirder. Once the jet was in the hangar, relatively undamaged, an EZ-go golf cart came flying into the hangar and smashed into the jet, causing some D-level repair damage.

It turns out that LCpl. Schmuckatelli was huffing keyboard cleaner before making his parts run in the EZ-go. He got really dizzy, lost consiousness, and the cart went out of control. It drove directly into the hangar at full speed through a gap in the hangar doors and smashed the jet. Like I said, the truth is sometimes stranger than fiction. You couldn't make up something that bizarre.

By the way, the Harrier CAN land on asphalt (or dirt, or grass, etc). It just can't do a vertical landing on anything except concrete, steel, or AM2 matting. It will melt right through it. A Harrier at idle, with the nozzles in the hoverstop (down), will make a nice large pool of molten asphalt on a runway.

What that doesn't cover is that the British already considered a failed nose gear so they had designed the nose to take relatively minimal damage in such a landing even without a stool.

Then there is this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD4oiBSXGDM

They don't make them like they use to. It returned to service until it got put into a museum. A F35 would shred itself like tin foil.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Banana Man posted:

All this fire talk reminds me of the Great White fire. The video was pretty haunting :(



(the numbers being the number of bodies in each of those areas respectively)

It's Murder on the Dancefloor

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

Banana Man posted:

All this fire talk reminds me of the Great White fire. The video was pretty haunting :(



(the numbers being the number of bodies in each of those areas respectively)

Yeah, avoid the video. Those few frames of the front exit, where you see people stacked up like cordwood struggling to get out is easily in the top-5 of the most grotesque things I've seen on the internet.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Skippy McPants posted:

Yeah, avoid the video. Those few frames of the front exit, where you see people stacked up like cordwood struggling to get out is easily in the top-5 of the most grotesque things I've seen on the internet.

The worst thing I’ve ever seen was the New Taipei water park fire from 2015.

GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ

Skippy McPants posted:

Yeah, avoid the video. Those few frames of the front exit, where you see people stacked up like cordwood struggling to get out is easily in the top-5 of the most grotesque things I've seen on the internet.

You can also hear the screams of the people trapped inside the room with "18" on it.

I'd like to find some way to unwatch that video.

Cable Guy
Jul 18, 2005

I don't expect any trouble, but we'll be handing these out later...




Slippery Tilde

oohhboy posted:

Then there is this...

They don't make them like they use to. It returned to service until it got put into a museum. A F35 would shred itself like tin foil.
Lol that they had to buy it back

quote:

Four days later a considerable international media presence witnessed the Alraigo sail into dock at Santa Cruz de Tenerife with the Sea Harrier still perched on its container. The aircraft was salvageable, and the ship's crew and owners were awarded £570,000 compensation.

Karate Bastard
Jul 31, 2007

Soiled Meat
drat right they did. Oy mind if I drop off this broken POS war vehicle fulla missiles on your already overloaded tugboat? Yes? Well get hosed matey here I come!

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

And if he hadn't, the jet woulda ditched which is even more expensive. Harriers are worth something like 20 mil.

Reading the article, they sent an under-experienced airman up on an exercise and the plane suffered serious instrumentation failure. Considering what a finicky bucket of bolts the Harrier is, they were very lucky to get everthing and the pilot back in one piece.

Skippy McPants fucked around with this message at 11:54 on Mar 28, 2018

Serephina
Nov 8, 2005

恐竜戦隊
ジュウレンジャー
According to wikipedia, the pilot got a desk job for that, and it didn't sound like his fault at all. Sigh.

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?

Platystemon posted:

The worst thing I’ve ever seen was the New Taipei water park fire from 2015.

Holy gently caress :catstare:

Anta
Mar 5, 2007

What a nice day for a gassing
I kind of want to know how a water park can burn, but judging from the reactions, I think I'm not watching any of that.

Jusupov
May 24, 2007
only text

oohhboy posted:

here are some pictures. i thought there was a video but I might have been mistaken.

https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/6lc3sx/harrier_landing_on_an_unconventional_landing_pad/


What that doesn't cover is that the British already considered a failed nose gear so they had designed the nose to take relatively minimal damage in such a landing even without a stool.

Then there is this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD4oiBSXGDM

They don't make them like they use to. It returned to service until it got put into a museum. A F35 would shred itself like tin foil.

F35 would melt a hole through that

IT BURNS
Nov 19, 2012

Banana Man posted:

All this fire talk reminds me of the Great White fire. The video was pretty haunting :(



(the numbers being the number of bodies in each of those areas respectively)

Even more harrowing is the book "Killer Show" by the attorney who prosecuted the owners. It was so hard to read in some parts that I had to skim it. There's a chapter about what happened in the following days to some of the more severe burn victims that is much, much worse than that anything in that video.

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug
Also from my hometown, a mix of HP Lovecraft and The Shining:

https://translate.google.com/transl...e%2F&edit-text=

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?

Anta posted:

I kind of want to know how a water park can burn, but judging from the reactions, I think I'm not watching any of that.

Think Holi Festival, but someone thought flash powder / lycopodium would be much more fun.

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HisMajestyBOB
Oct 21, 2010


College Slice

Nenonen posted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamlet_chicken_processing_plant_fire


:gonk:

and yes, this kind of thinking here:

turns out to be:

That article has a link to the Pemberton Mill Collapse. The wiki page is really good and worth reading, so I'll just quote the Boston Globe:

Boston Globe posted:

The scene after the fall was one of indescribable horror. Hundreds of men, women, and children were buried in the ruins. Some assured their friends that they were uninjured, but imprisoned by the timbers upon and about them. Others were dying and dead. Every nerve was strained to relieve the poor unfortunates, when, sad to relate, a lantern broke and set fire to the wreck. In a few moments the ruins were a sheet of flames. Fourteen are known to have been burned to death in the sight of their loved ones, who were powerless to aid them.

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