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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:me after the revolution i'd be the person who designs all those medals
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makes me wonder who even actually does that job and how much it pays anywhere currently
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Mar 28, 2018 10:23
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HorrificExistence posted:i want to talk about /r/TimeToGo/ I thought this post was a pretty good example of what you're describing A Depressed Person posted:
There's a bunch of other similar posts on there. It's pretty awful that these people are suffering like this and not receiving any help. Also it's sort of weird that as a society we condemn the selfishness of suicide as a means to escape from misery but celebrate the selfishness of satisfying greed through the exploitation and immiseration of others. I guess that's sort of a facile observation though since 
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Mar 28, 2018 11:43
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A lot of the cosplayers I follow on IG have since started "lewd patreons" and I think that might say something about the economy.
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Mar 28, 2018 11:50
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A Spherical Sponge posted:I thought this post was a pretty good example of what you're describing this crab bucket extends beyond the grave
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Mar 28, 2018 11:55
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gradenko_2000 posted:A lot of the cosplayers I follow on IG have since started "lewd patreons" and I think that might say something about the economy. At least 4 people I know at uni are camming now to supplement their inconsistent incomes. The commodification of sex and the body is pretty well accepted I think, and it makes sense that people will take advantage of that if they can, considering the state of the economy for young people.
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Mar 28, 2018 11:58
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Just looking at some books on Amazon. Huh wait a sec... 
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Mar 28, 2018 11:59
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A Spherical Sponge posted:At least 4 people I know at uni are camming now to supplement their inconsistent incomes. The commodification of sex and the body is pretty well accepted I think, and it makes sense that people will take advantage of that if they can, considering the state of the economy for young people. is there much money in it unless you're doing it all day every day and incredibly popular?
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Mar 28, 2018 12:00
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I think it's mainly a supplementary thing, like a fiver or two here and there. If you're going to be jerking off anyway why not get paid for it? Also it helps if you appeal to people's fetishes, and some fetishes are pretty benign. Like slowly taking off stockings, or filming yourself eating naked, or flossing. Apparently you can make money just by livestreaming yourself doing homework nude, so you can make money while doing things that you would be doing anyway. Ofc it helps to be good looking, athletic, and/or well endowed, but if the fetish is niche enough then it probably doesn't matter too much. I suppose you could build up a fan base by doing it regularly and get more income that way, but only one person who I knew did that, the others just did it a few times a week as they were eating dinner or if they felt like jerking it for a bunch of strangers. It helps to be an exhibitionist.
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Mar 28, 2018 12:17
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:Just looking at some books on Amazon. the zuck is soooo, soooo desperate to get facebook into china, and Xi is having none of it
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Mar 28, 2018 12:30
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Jose posted:makes me wonder who even actually does that job and how much it pays anywhere currently the current western analog is definitely some dude trying to figure out how to put the trump family crest (which isn't even his own crest) onto medals
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Mar 28, 2018 12:37
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:Just looking at some books on Amazon. "socialism but billionaires like me run the show" is zuckerberg's platonic ideal of government tbh
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Mar 28, 2018 12:38
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i could've sworn there was a word for a society where billionaires control the means of production and the reins of state
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Mar 28, 2018 13:16
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https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/978969013308002304
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Mar 28, 2018 13:36
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Prav posted:i could've sworn there was a word for a society where billionaires control the means of production and the reins of state There is but people, especially the tech nerds, know which way the wind is blowing The seeds are already being planted (Techies loving some lovely version of UBI), but i give them like 10 years at most before we start seeing something like "market friendly socialism" become the new neoliberalism Edit: basically tankie Twitter will be vindicated when Clinton and zuckerberg become "socdems"
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Mar 28, 2018 13:57
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Business Gorillas posted:There is but people, especially the tech nerds, know which way the wind is blowing This cannot happen I refuse to live in a world where the tankies are right
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Mar 28, 2018 15:32
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Best exit now, because they're right and always have been
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Mar 28, 2018 16:56
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Mar 28, 2018 17:06
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R. Guyovich posted:look deep inside yourself and ask whether you really want this. 
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Mar 28, 2018 17:10
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i'm ashamed of my mental anguish of living in late-capitalist society. need to get woke over here
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Mar 28, 2018 17:15
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Business Gorillas posted:There is but people, especially the tech nerds, know which way the wind is blowing This is correct.
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Mar 28, 2018 17:21
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It's also nothing new. Social democrats were vicious opponents of communism (and really socialism too) and have as much a hand in our current situation as capitalists.
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Mar 28, 2018 17:23
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Larry Parrish posted:Best exit now, because they're right and always have been "Join me!" the anthropomorphic T-34 says.
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Mar 28, 2018 17:34
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I don’t agree with the hyperconservitive wing of communists who value ideological purity in the form of a desired past being recreated, but I do agree with Phil Greaves re: masturbation.
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Mar 28, 2018 17:48
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AstheWorldWorlds posted:It's also nothing new. Social democrats were vicious opponents of communism (and really socialism too) and have as much a hand in our current situation as capitalists. 20th Century European politics pretty clearly demonstrate the immediate failings of social democracy, but we've never had socdems in the US and we refuse to learn from anybody else.
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Mar 28, 2018 18:13
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in all honesty US Democrats aren't appreciably different from european social democrats in their class composition, institutional support bases, ease with global empire, or capitulation to neoliberalism the electoral coalition of public sector workers, ethnic minorities, and liberal professionals repeats itself in other countries, dems just have weird origin story (hybrid party of southern racial-agrarian reactionaries, northern urban machine politics)
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Mar 28, 2018 18:36
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American politics just seem to be more inherently ad-hoc, and lack any kind of philosophical underpinnings. Maybe because our civic ideology is so firmly rooted in constitutional worship that we accept the precepts of our founding document as inherently true and work from there.
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Mar 28, 2018 20:27
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:American politics just seem to be more inherently ad-hoc, and lack any kind of philosophical underpinnings. Maybe because our civic ideology is so firmly rooted in constitutional worship that we accept the precepts of our founding document as inherently true and work from there. Also because ethnic minorities have been such a longstanding and defining issue for party identity that's often trumped other ideological differences.
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Mar 28, 2018 21:00
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:Just looking at some books on Amazon. lmao
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Mar 28, 2018 21:03
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gradenko_2000 posted:A lot of the cosplayers I follow on IG have since started "lewd patreons" and I think that might say something about the economy. Indeed the pictures should be redistributed to the proletariat who are alienated by the paywalls of the bourgeoise.
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Mar 28, 2018 21:19
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:American politics just seem to be more inherently ad-hoc, and lack any kind of philosophical underpinnings. Maybe because our civic ideology is so firmly rooted in constitutional worship that we accept the precepts of our founding document as inherently true and work from there. it's not too far off as the bog standard observation is that the Constitution and the Bible are infallible works of God in the eyes of some of our fundamentalists
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Mar 28, 2018 21:24
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america in general has a very low level of political consciousness. democrat/republican and conservative/liberal are for many people more of an identity than an actual coherent political ideology (because they arent coherent political ideologies). even many american socialists I would say have fairly low levels of political consciousness generally and basically just use their ideology as an outsider identity to latch on to since the two prevailing political identity groups dont appeal to them for whatever reason.
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Mar 28, 2018 21:27
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Pornographic Memory posted:Also because ethnic minorities have been such a longstanding and defining issue for party identity that's often trumped other ideological differences. I think the point is that ideological differences aren't genuine, because both parties are rooted in the same ideology. "Minority issues" and "religious conservatism," are both cynical vote-grabbing strategies for politics as sport - because the only interest that will always be served is Capital's. The qualitative difference between Republicans and Democrats is that they serve different sectors of the bourgeoisie.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I think the point is that ideological differences aren't genuine, because both parties are rooted in the same ideology. "Minority issues" and "religious conservatism," are both cynical vote-grabbing strategies for politics as sport - because the only interest that will always be served is Capital's. The qualitative difference between Republicans and Democrats is that they serve different sectors of the bourgeoisie. yes
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Mar 28, 2018 21:33
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Democrats deserve zero credit for bowing to pressures that had been built up from the ground for decades, because they've always been the ones standing in the way of progress alongside Republicans until they saw the polling advantages.
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Mar 28, 2018 21:45
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I think the point is that ideological differences aren't genuine, because both parties are rooted in the same ideology. "Minority issues" and "religious conservatism," are both cynical vote-grabbing strategies for politics as sport - because the only interest that will always be served is Capital's. The qualitative difference between Republicans and Democrats is that they serve different sectors of the bourgeoisie. Are you talking about the politicians, or the voters? Because "minority issues" can literally be life and death for minority voters. Hardly a sport for them.
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Mar 28, 2018 22:07
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its pretty clear theyre referring to politicians since they say refer to them as "cynical vote-grabbing strategies" and voters would not be grabbing their own votes
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Mar 28, 2018 22:10
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It's obvious that police brutality is the defining social issue of the present day, and Democrats have moved zero inches on it because they think there's more electoral liability in being anti-cop. The best you can hope for is a local grassroots movement to elect somebody like Larry Krasner, with no support from the Democratic party at all - but they'll take the credit anyway if it's successful.
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Mar 28, 2018 22:14
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Business Gorillas posted:"socialism but billionaires like me run the show" is zuckerberg's platonic ideal of government tbh weird how the "billionaires who run the show" in china keep getting thrown in jail
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R. Guyovich posted:weird how the "billionaires who run the show" in china keep getting thrown in jail Oh come on that's like claiming there's no capitalist class running things because they sell competing products and occasionally some of them go bust.
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