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CascadeBeta posted:Fair enough. I guess I look at it in a long term way rather than A. More money for us B. gently caress you. It's not just that. Conservatives like to harshly punish fuckups, instead of, you know, teaching them how not to gently caress up. Because punishment is a lesson in itself. And, as America hating, vegan, communist, socialist, flower-sniffing LIBERALS, we are the worst fuckups possible. Combine that with A. and B. Thanks FOX news! Elitist, I forgot elitist. 
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squirrelzipper posted:So the worst loving timeline by far. loving hell. If we had deckers and filament whips and orcs I could probably reconcile this as a win in my head but no. We get the loving evil poo poo corporations and no dragons, no Salish shamans, no elves...gently caress this lovely timeline is what I’m saying. Bright side my man. No bug spirits either.
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:People have been saying this for a good 20-30 years now, but the supposed tidal wave of left-leaning folks suddenly taking over from baby boomers on business and government has so far failed to materialize. I wouldn't be holding my breath. Those on the left are going to have to do a whole lot better than to wait for some imagined new generation. I would dare say this imagined new wave of lefties taking over being conjured fancifully in peoples' minds are a factor in the left's enduring complacency. President Trump is a thing that exists, because people didn't go out to vote. So because some people were premature in declaring 10+ years ago that a liberal generational wave was just around the corner that means it’s never gonna happen.
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:People have been saying this for a good 20-30 years now, but the supposed tidal wave of left-leaning folks suddenly taking over from baby boomers on business and government has so far failed to materialize. I wouldn't be holding my breath. Those on the left are going to have to do a whole lot better than to wait for some imagined new generation. I would dare say this imagined new wave of lefties taking over being conjured fancifully in peoples' minds are a factor in the left's enduring complacency. President Trump is a thing that exists, because people didn't go out to vote. Yes the Republicans are doing a stellar job of self-destructing, but it's not enough and it's not a free ride for the Democratic party. I don't think that's fair to say when we just had large marches this weekend about the failure of American gun policy because of the youth taking a stand. And, you know, the D+10 wave incoming.
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DandyLion posted:If you're young and not a liberal, you're heartless, and if you're old and not a conservative, you're brainless. If you're not a liberal at 20, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative at 40, you learned things when you were 20.
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It's weird now that if news isn't just a STORM of embarrassing poo poo for the administration, it feels like a slow news day. This week has felt slow, but it'd be a trainwreck for any previous administration.
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TheScott2K posted:I'm pretty sure the South Park Mans were just being edgelords. You have to actually bother caring about something to be a self-described Republican. Republicans care about money
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Mar 28, 2018 16:06
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gently caress betsy devos and gently caress the guy at the end. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNVzB6mYx3Y
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Also millennials, by far the most left leaning generation ever, aren’t newly aged 18 year olds who don’t vote anymore. They’re in the late 20s early 30s.
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Cable Guy posted:You, sir, are a master of understatement. If the analysis Torrez makes is correct, it's goddam devastating. I was surprised when people earlier in the thread said her lawyer was scummy, because everything he's doing seems super smart for my layman's perspective.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Lol after all of those think pieces, one from Nate himself, on how Trump being up to 42% approval is a concern and Yadaa yadaa a couple more polls came today and now the aggregate on 538 is 40.4. He was at 41.1 on 538 and silver commented on him being over 40 for most of the past two months (he has been). Slipping down .7 after a couple more polls came out really isn't a huge victory or anything. Pointing out he is at 41% on 538 = take it with a grain of salt you sadbrains! Pointing out he is at 40% on 538 = heh told you so 
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i am harry posted:Republicans care about money I argue that they worship money. This extends to "has money / is business man = is smart and good person" They don't care about money as a trait because many of them vote against their own interests.
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:People have been saying this for a good 20-30 years now, but the supposed tidal wave of left-leaning folks suddenly taking over from baby boomers on business and government has so far failed to materialize. I wouldn't be holding my breath. Those on the left are going to have to do a whole lot better than to wait for some imagined new generation. I would dare say this imagined new wave of lefties taking over being conjured fancifully in peoples' minds are a factor in the left's enduring complacency. President Trump is a thing that exists, because people didn't go out to vote. Yes the Republicans are doing a stellar job of self-destructing, but it's not enough and it's not a free ride for the Democratic party. I tend to agree with this. "Waiting for old people to die off" is just an excuse to avoid action in the present. The assertion isn't completely wrong, but the world isn't going to fix itself just through an older generation dying off. Young people have been pissed off at older generations as long as there has been generations.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Summary for those of us who don't have a bunch of time to listen to podcasts? timestamp 4.40 posted:- So without kind of expressly saying it, the story out of Camp Trump is that "oh yes, this definitely didn't happen and the reason... quote:The lawsuit is a declaratory judgement lawsuit... that's the only thing it seeks. It says "I am asking the court to tell me, Stormy Daniels, that no agreement was ever formed between the parties, or in the alternative extent that it was formed, it is void, invalid, or otherwise unenforceable... and then the lawsuit attaches the agreement that is the subject of the lawsuit. This is a settlement agreement right? quote:So number one, the first step is what does it mean to have a confidential settlement agreement? What that means is that when you have tort claims, or breach of contract claims between parties, those parties can get together and say "Uh, ok, we're going to release our claims with respect to each other, or you're going to release your claims against me" timestamp c. 44:50 posted:This is not about DT lying about having an affair with Daniels in 2007. This is about DT, one and a half weeks before the election forming... having his lawyer form an illegal LLC to pay hush money to a witness with knowledge of multiple crimes... and THAT'S impeachable. That's the TOP of Yodel Mountain as far as I'm concerned... Really, listen to the podcast, https://overcast.fm/+HG-XBMeV8 You could start here but you miss a LOT of the lead in... https://overcast.fm/+HG-XBMeV8/42:00 Cable Guy fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Mar 28, 2018 |
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Deteriorata posted:The assertion isn't completely wrong, but the world isn't going to fix itself just through an older generation dying off. Young people have been pissed off at older generations as long as there has been generations. The current older generation has statins and historically low-smoking rates. This is a new problem.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Also millennials, by far the most left leaning generation ever, aren’t newly aged 18 year olds who don’t vote anymore. They’re in the late 20s early 30s. Dude, the super "woke" millennials that actually know what "woke" means are very, very young, and the few that could vote didn't vote in 2016. 2020 will be the first presidential election where we see what an engaged (assuming they still are) millennial voting group does.
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Johnny Bravo posted:He was at 41.1 on 538 and silver commented on him being over 40 for most of the past two months (he has been). Slipping down .7 after a couple more polls came out really isn't a huge victory or anything. None of them matter except as another item in the big pile of data. My point is a poll from CNN that had Trump at 42 literally makes headlines. But then a day later a CNBC poll has him at 39 and nothing.
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Cable Guy posted:Given that adultery is still a crime in New York, and given a few other things he discusses in the podcast... Everything is a impreachable given a Congress willing to impeach, though? Trump University alone is enough for impeachment and that was all public knowledge pre-election.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Everything is a impreachable given a Congress willing to impeach, though? It's pretty damning... specifically compares Trump to Clinton's impeachment. Cable Guy fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Mar 28, 2018 |
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:None of them matter except as another item in the big pile of data. My point is a poll from CNN that had Trump at 42 literally makes headlines. But then a day later a CNBC poll has him at 39 and nothing. Fair enough, my response was overly dickish so my apologies. While were talking about polls though, here's one that's mostly useless but fun to digest anyways: https://mobile.twitter.com/Morning_Joe/status/978944289400074241
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Everything is a impreachable given a Congress willing to impeach, though? If it was widely known before the election I wouldn’t even touch impeachment. It would be like congress undermining the will of the people.
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The real, consistent news with Trump's approval rating is that he can't crack above like the mid 40s. Every other President has managed to hit at least the high 60s during their most popular periods. Trump can't even hit the halfway mark, making him a pretty unequivocally unpopular President. Maybe something is going to change to get him over the wall, but I kind of doubt it.
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eyebeem posted:Dude, the super "woke" millennials that actually know what "woke" means are very, very young, and the few that could vote didn't vote in 2016. Millenials are anyone born from about 1980-2000 so at this point literally all of them are 18. The thing is that 18-year-olds typically don't vote...but 30-year-olds do and guess who all are in their late 20s/early 30s now?
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Johnny Bravo posted:Fair enough, my response was overly dickish so my apologies. All clowns compared to Tammy Duckworth.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:None of them matter except as another item in the big pile of data. My point is a poll from CNN that had Trump at 42 literally makes headlines. But then a day later a CNBC poll has him at 39 and nothing. Yeah everyone freaking out about that CNN poll was real annoying and was probably a product of Chris Cilliza horse-race types with no brains.
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Deteriorata posted:I tend to agree with this. "Waiting for old people to die off" is just an excuse to avoid action in the present. Thinking that boomers suck, and being socially/politically active aren't mutually exclusive. quote:The assertion isn't completely wrong, but the world isn't going to fix itself just through an older generation dying off. Young people have been pissed off at older generations as long as there has been generations. Who is saying that the older generation dying will fix everything? Anyone? Speak up! As to the bolded, when is the last time you saw an older generation (mine,) look at the next young voters and say, "These kids know what's up, go lay 'em to waste!" The variables have changed. VVV Dude. http://carpoolvote.com/
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Mustached Demon posted:All clowns compared to Tammy Duckworth. I'd bus people to the polls in my lovely hatchback for Tammy D.
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Mustached Demon posted:All clowns compared to Tammy Duckworth. This guy gets it
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eyebeem posted:Dude, the super "woke" millennials that actually know what "woke" means are very, very young, and the few that could vote didn't vote in 2016. i'm 32 and know what woke means.
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KickerOfMice posted:Thinking that boomers suck, and being socially/politically active aren't mutually exclusive. There's a big difference in thinking older generations dying = better and boomers dying = better, too. Boomers are parasitic scum.
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Bicyclops posted:The real, consistent news with Trump's approval rating is that he can't crack above like the mid 40s. Every other President has managed to hit at least the high 60s during their most popular periods. Trump can't even hit the halfway mark, making him a pretty unequivocally unpopular President. Maybe something is going to change to get him over the wall, but I kind of doubt it. Trump will never get over the wall
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Sir Lemming posted:Trump will never get over the wall No, but at least he'll be able to see through it.
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FizFashizzle posted:uh haikus have to be about nature piercing darkest dawn cool earth warms in morning heat red face turns orange
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Mustached Demon posted:There's a big difference in thinking older generations dying = better and boomers dying = better, too. Boomers are parasitic scum. True, I assumed we were talking about them specifically.
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Soothing Vapors posted:Diamond Joe Biden is no man's clown Tammy Duckworth is no man 
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Mustached Demon posted:All clowns compared to Tammy Duckworth. I don't know how well Duckworth would survive a general, considering there's a lot of dirt that could be dug up about her time as an admin at the VA. I could see the right wing hate machine spinning up a "Duckworth hates our vets" machine that will never ever shut the gently caress up.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Also millennials, by far the most left leaning generation ever, aren’t newly aged 18 year olds who don’t vote anymore. They’re in the late 20s early 30s. I don't want to be the Cassandra here, but it doesn't matter if they're lefties or not, the only question that matters is if they're going to inherit, no matter how 'modest', assets from their parents....or...if they're 'made' it financially to enough of an extent that they're comfortable. Both of those groups can and will be bought. This is why Occupy ultimately failed to do anything meaningful. Any millennial that is in either of those advantageous positions cannot be trusted as an ally of the whole lefty cause. I don't want to say something like that, but I seeing it play out as true. Given the opportunity people will regress to what they know. They will do what they've been trained to do and what they've been trained to do is live in this diseased box that we're all living in...where there are clear paths to prevailing 'righteousness' in the system. They do not want change. Change is terrifying, change has a chance of putting them on the outs. They want a mildly kinder, more equitable status quo, specifically for them or, at least, one in which they automatically thrive in. They will jump at the chance to live that preordained righteousness in a heartbeat if given the chance...which makes for poor allies. Again, it's a lovely thing to say...but that's what I've seen so far from our shared allies.
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Mustached Demon posted:All clowns compared to Tammy Duckworth. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/115-2018/s12
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Groovelord Neato posted:i'm 32 and know what woke means. Talking to the people on the internet is so loving annoying. I'm 35 and I know what woke means. Good for you for being 32 and knowing what woke means. I was not making the claim that NOBODY IN THEIR THIRTIES KNOWS THIS WORD.
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