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Mar 28, 2018 23:46
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Please do not speak ill of failed mom killer porno mag reader gunboy irvine
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Mar 28, 2018 23:52
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It's hard to hate on Irvine because there's nothing there. He barely counts as a character. It would have been neat if Edea killed Irvine at the assassination attempt. Throw the bullet right back into his dumb cowboy face. Then come up with a new 6th character who maybe has something to do for the rest of the game.
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Mar 29, 2018 00:06
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Well, there is one thing...Ainsley McTree posted:God Irvine is a piece of poo poo "Yo Squall I remembered you guys from when we were kids growing up together and I knew that Edea was our foster mom but I didn't want to say anything because I thought it would sound weird" But I mean, if everyone's gonna give squall a pass for being a bratty teenager, surely they can extend the same courtesy to Irvine as well.
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Mar 29, 2018 00:29
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I like how we all talked about the various insane things in FF8 and nobody mentioned the whole “equiping these monsters irreversible drains your memories and erases them, the game only used this to make it so the contrived backstory of the protagonists works without having to give character backstories and is never explored or comes up again”
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Mar 29, 2018 00:46
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Barudak posted:I like how we all talked about the various insane things in FF8 and nobody mentioned the whole “equiping these monsters irreversible drains your memories and erases them, the game only used this to make it so the contrived backstory of the protagonists works without having to give character backstories and is never explored or comes up again” Three is the least insane final fantasy right? I'll assume so, and ask: On a scale of final fantasy 3 to the thirteen series, how insane is final fantasy 8?
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Mar 29, 2018 00:52
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My main thing with Irvine is how he turns out to be so catastrophically useless in the Edea hit, but not only is he allowed to stay on the team, he goes back to being his smug shithead self and nobody has the decency to call him out on it Also I feel like the never really gives the right amount of gravity to the fact that Cid and Edea run a school of child mercenaries, starting with the children that they raised at their orphanage
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Mar 29, 2018 00:53
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Barudak posted:Good thing she is too! God, FFVIII doesn't really 'work' but all the individual pieces sound so amazing outside of that context. It seems like it's trying to play with too much rather than zeroing in on a few pieces. ...my new idea for a writing contest: draw three random concepts or story beats from across Final Fantasy, and write a short story incorporating all of them.
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Mar 29, 2018 01:16
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lobster22221 posted:Three is the least insane final fantasy right? I'll assume so, and ask: On a scale of final fantasy 3 to the thirteen series, how insane is final fantasy 8? ff8 is incredibly insane. as for the least insane one...idk....2????????
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Mar 29, 2018 01:19
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Cleretic posted:God, FFVIII doesn't really 'work' but all the individual pieces sound so amazing outside of that context. It seems like it's trying to play with too much rather than zeroing in on a few pieces. Hmm. How about suddenly moon people, an evil soul tree from the void, and magical nuke stones GulagDolls posted:ff8 is incredibly insane. two has a fashionable emperor taking over hell and heaven. Three is about a guy throwing a temper tantrum about not living forever. lobster22221 fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Mar 29, 2018 |
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Mar 29, 2018 01:20
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I don't remember anything to insane about the first ff, i guess the turn to sci-fi with the airship and tiamet's Castle in the sky is a bit out there but like comparatively it's pretty tame
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Mar 29, 2018 01:31
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The first boss is actually the last boss that was in some never ending time loop was pretty cool for the time. And that the bats were actually people.
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Mar 29, 2018 01:36
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:The first boss is actually the last boss that was in some never ending time loop was pretty cool for the time. I was mostly thinking of this when I disqualified it. An evil knight turns into a demon because of time travel or something. Even funnier in the NES translation because he just threatens to knock you down.
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Mar 29, 2018 01:39
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Never forget that all of FFI is a stable time loop.lobster22221 posted:Hmm. How about suddenly moon people, an evil soul tree from the void, and magical nuke stones Okay, I can do this. The moon people have the nuke stones, and suddenly fire them from the moon at the evil void tree. They're inscrutible aliens regardless, but the tree was a common threat. I mean, either that or the moon people are void trees... either way we're talking 'weird soft sci-fi', it could be a Doctor Who story with minimal changes.
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Mar 29, 2018 01:39
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Cleretic posted:Never forget that all of FFI is a stable time loop. What if the evil void trees that moon people were nuking happened to be humans from the future?
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Mar 29, 2018 01:42
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:The first boss is actually the last boss that was in some never ending time loop was pretty cool for the time. And that the bats were actually people. I would argue that the final boss being the first boss in a time travel story is the literal opposite of insane, and probably the only bit of genuine neat story in the first game Uuuh also I guess it's the only bit of story in the game now that I think of it
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Mar 29, 2018 01:42
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mandatory lesbian posted:I would argue that the final boss being the first boss in a time travel story is the literal opposite of insane, and probably the only bit of genuine neat story in the first game Just because something is an insane idea doesn't mean it is a bad one. Crystal Chronicles whole gimmick was that there a giant monster that poisoned the world to eat bad memories Not that all of final fantasies idea's were gold or anything. Tactics Advanced had magical judges telling you not to perform specific actions, but still allowing combat in civilian areas, and even rewarding you for other actions. It was because of gameplay, but it was also integrated into the story so I'm counting it. lobster22221 fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Mar 29, 2018 |
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Mar 29, 2018 01:44
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lobster22221 posted:Just because something is an insane idea doesn't mean it is a bad one. Not that all of final fantasies idea's were gold or anything. Where did I say something being insane was bad??? I mean neat more metaphorically, not a value judgement just something that's tidy
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Mar 29, 2018 01:48
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mandatory lesbian posted:Where did I say something being insane was bad??? I mean neat more metaphorically, not a value judgement just something that's tidy Time travel demon transformation is kind of insane, so I figured you were saying it wasn't insane because it was a neat idea for the time. I guess I misinterpreted. Also the time travel element was kind of last minute wasn't it? The word insane is starting to lose its meaning and I think we need to start using other words.
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Mar 29, 2018 01:52
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lobster22221 posted:
thats insane
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Mar 29, 2018 01:54
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Dissidia retroactively makes FF1 more insane.
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Mar 29, 2018 02:03
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lobster22221 posted:Time travel demon transformation is kind of insane, so I figured you were saying it wasn't insane because it was a neat idea for the time. I guess I misinterpreted. Also the time travel element was kind of last minute wasn't it? Idk to me it just isn't that insane as presented but ive played a million other RPGs before even touching ff1 and it is pretty subjective in the first place so it's not like you're wrong to think so or anything
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Mar 29, 2018 02:21
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Bruceski posted:It's not the age that makes it icky, it's the power differential. The power of the whip? *wa-kshhh!*
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Mar 29, 2018 02:24
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Final Fantasy 1 really only stands out among its contemporaries - kill a dragon, kill a pigdude and retrieve an artifact, etc. Super techno ancient civilizations and time travel shenanigans aren't so unusual now.
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Mar 29, 2018 02:39
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lobster22221 posted:Time travel demon transformation is kind of insane, so I figured you were saying it wasn't insane because it was a neat idea for the time. I guess I misinterpreted. Also the time travel element was kind of last minute wasn't it? That's nuts
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Mar 29, 2018 02:57
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Time travel fuckery - which as noted is kind of unique and clever for an NES RPG - aside, FF1 does a lot of neat little stuff I appreciated on a recent replay Despite the limited palette of sprite resources, it actually does a pretty good job of making every single town feel unique by arranging those resources differently; Pravoka is bustling and cosmopolitan, Elfland is natural, Melmond is a decaying shithole, and Crescent Lake is secluded and quaint. A lot of craft went into it, for something with an (apparently?) shoestring budget and small team
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Mar 29, 2018 03:03
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FF is pretty fuckin stupid in general. But thats JRPG's in general lets not kid ourselves here. Dragon Quest is usually the most straightforward ones and that has hosed up poo poo like watching your dad get beaten and burned to death in front of you. Let alone with FF like dying to take over hell/heaven, Hyperbolic time underground, worlds combining and everyone's ok with it, Submersible castles via sand, Saiyans, Dreams dreaming their dreams into reality, whatever the gently caress was going on in 13, etc.
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Mar 29, 2018 03:15
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Shoenin posted:worlds combining and everyone's ok with it to be fair originally the worlds were one
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Mar 29, 2018 03:24
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Shoenin posted:
Cats and dogs living together, hiding the tv remote, and mixing mayonnaise with ice cream. weird stuff. That weird poo poo is part of why people like Final Fantasy despite all of its flaws though. Sometimes the game is even good.
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Mar 29, 2018 03:24
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The White Dragon posted:to be fair originally the worlds were one Yeah, given the stagnation of maps it's less "the neighboring town is under a mountain now" and more "huh, where'd that castle come from?"
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Mar 29, 2018 03:30
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lobster22221 posted:mixing mayonnaise with ice cream this is suikoden not final fantasy
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Mar 29, 2018 03:31
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Why? Because Magic. It ain't got to explain poo poo.
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Mar 29, 2018 03:31
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The White Dragon posted:this is suikoden not final fantasy Wait, did they do that in suikoden? Actually is the Suikoden series worth playing? I've heard of it but never tried it.
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Mar 29, 2018 03:32
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lobster22221 posted:Wait, did they do that in suikoden? Actually is the Suikoden series worth playing? I've heard of it but never tried it. Sure, HELL YES, I guess, nope, and yes, respective answers in series order.
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Mar 29, 2018 03:52
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Konami made a Suikoden just for new fans looking in and it's called tierkreis
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Mar 29, 2018 03:55
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lobster22221 posted:Wait, did they do that in suikoden? Actually is the Suikoden series worth playing? I've heard of it but never tried it. Suikoden is a great game, and its pixel art is timeless. And yes in Suikoden 2 and 3 there's a chef, and you can give him spices that are otherwise mechanically disguised as trade goods whose price fluctuates as the game timer ticks. Ice Cream + Mayonnaise makes Fried Ice Cream
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Mar 29, 2018 04:00
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Luca Blight is also just an absolutely fantastic villain in every sense.
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Mar 29, 2018 04:07
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lobster22221 posted:Wait, did they do that in suikoden? Actually is the Suikoden series worth playing? I've heard of it but never tried it. Suikoden is certified Good poo poo is what it is Suikoden 2 is a full-on classic--if you play no other game in the series, play that one.
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Mar 29, 2018 04:16
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Can I assume the chance of a PC port happening to be less than 0? If so is there a good legal way to play it?
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Mar 29, 2018 04:23
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It's on PSN.
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