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cinci zoo sniper posted:is there a way to get non-poo poo terminal for wsl ubuntu? in windows you are pretty much doomed to always have awful terminals I also, on my current work laptop, have this weird ssl issue which means I can't update anything not approved by MS / built into wsl from the getgo. I also cannot (re)install openssl as it throws the same error. 
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remember when windows 10 was announced and one of the big selling points was ctrl+c/ctrl+v right in the console
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Boiled Water posted:in windows you are pretty much doomed to always have awful terminals i had to apt-get update before anything worked because on apt-get install foo it wouldnt actually fetch the package lists correctly
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Mar 29, 2018 09:09
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anthonypants posted:remember when windows 10 was announced and one of the big selling points was ctrl+c/ctrl+v right in the console paste on right click was a mistake
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Mar 29, 2018 09:29
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anthonypants posted:remember when windows 10 was announced and one of the big selling points was ctrl+c/ctrl+v right in the console this still doesn’t work btw
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cinci zoo sniper posted:this still doesn’t work btw
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Mar 29, 2018 09:46
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cinci zoo sniper posted:i had to apt-get update before anything worked because on apt-get install foo it wouldnt actually fetch the package lists correctly this is the case on ubuntu/debian in general afaik, there is no update implied by install, and install just runs off of your local info on the state of the package universe for terminal app options: get an x server (vcxsrv is good and easy, only issue is that it interacts a bit weirdly with multiple desktops) and install whatever you prefer from the package system. i find the new terminal in windows largely passable though, check the options to see if you can't twist it into working for you
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Mar 29, 2018 10:02
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:this is the case on ubuntu/debian in general afaik, there is no update implied by install, and install just runs off of your local info on the state of the package universe i haven’t used ubuntu or debian in years but iirc install would always check repos for changes first. anyways, what’s this new terminal you two about?
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Mar 29, 2018 10:06
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cinci zoo sniper posted:i haven’t used ubuntu or debian in years but iirc install would always check repos for changes first. possibly the normal install just has an update in some crontab or such, needing the update is consistent with my memory of apt at least going a bit far saying "new", but the regular cmd.exe terminal has gotten a lot of attention; fully resizeable, proper reflow on resizing*, proper linebreaking selection support*, properly propagates modifiers* (ctrl+c working consistently etc.), more functional support for ansi escape sequences, and probably a few others i forget the important thing is that you likely have to turn on the * ones (at least i had to, but that may be due to upgrading, as they break past behavior). it is still by no means good, but it is now passable enough that i don't bother using an ubunutu packaged terminal
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Mar 29, 2018 10:21
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:possibly the normal install just has an update in some crontab or such, needing the update is consistent with my memory of apt at least
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Mar 29, 2018 10:24
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Boiled Water posted:paste on right click was a mistake It's one thing when it happens in cmd.exe but another disaster entirely when your finger slips and you accidentally paste a router configuration script or whatever to the wrong putty ssh window at least mobaxterm has a confirmation popup if you really want to paste multiple lines of text into a terminal session
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Mar 29, 2018 10:44
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Windows nt: let's literally build a terminal emulator GUI into our os kernel
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use powershell, its poo poo for a lot of other reasons but at least it does copy/paste right
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Sapozhnik posted:Windows nt: let's literally build a terminal emulator GUI into our os kernel also font rendering and a web server and im sure some other poo poo i can't remember
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Mar 29, 2018 15:19
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So yeah, MS is divorcing ux from engineering.
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Potato Salad posted:So yeah, MS is divorcing ux from engineering. my understanding was that microsoft's biggest ux problems were more from executive meddling and mid-level product folks trying to make their name than friction with engineering e: full explanation here, laughing that they're merging the surface group with office
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Mar 29, 2018 20:58
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Then hopefully this is a neutral move
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cinci zoo sniper posted:this still doesn’t work btw also microsoft hosed up their spectre/meltdown patches so bad, they gave everyone the ability to read arbitrary memory on windows 7 and server 2008r2. it wasn't fixed until today but lol if you're gonna install a 0-day microsoft patch
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loling @ "the company's biggest reorganization in three years" and "Nadella is reshaping Microsoft to fit a world where the PC is no longer the center of computing.", as if that wasn't the publicly stated goal of the last major reorg.
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centralized design orgs are super risky when you have as many products as they do, sadly I won't get any inside info because I don't know any designers who work there anymore
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Mar 29, 2018 23:43
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qirex posted:my understanding was that microsoft's biggest ux problems were more from executive meddling and mid-level product folks trying to make their name than friction with engineering ha sounds just like where i work and we got a handful of ms folks that of course started doing the same thing before they devolved into a meandering mass of ill assigned employees
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Fame Douglas posted:loling @ "the company's biggest reorganization in three years" and "Nadella is reshaping Microsoft to fit a world where the PC is no longer the center of computing.", as if that wasn't the publicly stated goal of the last major reorg. what’s the manager to worker ratio at ms?
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420:69
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Krankenstyle posted:420:69 new mega widescreen monitor
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Krankenstyle posted:420:69 seems reasonable
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qirex posted:centralized design orgs are super risky when you have as many products as they do, sadly I won't get any inside info because I don't know any designers who work there anymore Centralized? Microsoft? I suspect you have misunderstood something.
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Mar 30, 2018 15:48
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Microsoft owns linkedin so I'm posting this here. Do y'all ever read politicschat on linkedin, it is grade a hilarious
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Mar 30, 2018 20:23
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I try to visit linkedin as little as possible, somehow they managed to build a social network that is far more objectionable than even facebook
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Mar 30, 2018 20:53
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weird LinkedIn
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OldAlias posted:weird LinkedIn Start my own political podcast around drake bi memes and big data dick jokes.
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r u ready to WALK posted:I try to visit linkedin as little as possible, somehow they managed to build a social network that is far more objectionable than even facebook i visit linkedin only a) when someone i know wants to add me to their network. b) when i'm unemployed
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Wheany posted:i visit linkedin only a) when someone i know wants to add me to their network. b) when i'm unemployed this or when i need to add someone to my network
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cinci zoo sniper posted:this or when i need to add someone to my network
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anthonypants posted:does anyone ever really "need" to add someone to their linkedin network yeah, i take part in hiring people into my team so now it comes in handy for word-of-mouth advertising. linkedin has insane penetration of latvian job market
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Careful Drums posted:Microsoft owns linkedin so I'm posting this here. Do y'all ever read politicschat on linkedin, it is grade a hilarious
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anthonypants posted:does anyone ever really "need" to add someone to their linkedin network yes for comedy purposes
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 Sometimes im at work and think about microsoft products and then need a chuckle so I go and look back at this
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Lol tat looks and sounds just like the Lori I work with
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