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wheres the dang book butcher help me escape this hellworld if only for the 2-3 hours ittl take me, a content locust, to binge through your book
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Ramadu posted:wheres the dang book butcher 2-3 hours for a major hardback novel? Seriously? Do you even retain any of it?
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Mar 29, 2018 15:16
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Blasphemeral posted:2-3 hours for a major hardback novel? Seriously? While 2-3 hours sounds a bit quick, these aren't necessarily filled with challenging prose. Nor would I consider an average sized novel "major" in terms of length. I'd say 5 hours or so is a decent amount of time to get through the average Butcher novel.
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Mar 29, 2018 15:31
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Ramadu posted:wheres the dang book butcher  Most speed-reading techniques actually harm comprehension and retention of the material.
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Mar 29, 2018 21:20
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Blasphemeral posted:2-3 hours for a major hardback novel? Seriously? yeah i do. lets be honest theres a ton of these novels that you can skip through quickly since he basically rehashes the same stuff a lot especially as descriptors. this stuff is basically airport level fiction in terms of complexity. its not hard to read quick!
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Mar 29, 2018 22:13
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Aerdan posted:
I can't turn it off. As such, my retension for books is.. extremely bad - I'm one of those people that can read a butcher book in 3-4 hours as well. On the plus side, I can reread many books that aren't incredibly memorable years later and it's like a new book all over again!
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Mar 29, 2018 23:31
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Every time Butcher describes a woman you can basically skip half a page ahead and just assume she’s hot.
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Mar 30, 2018 10:55
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BabyFur Denny posted:Every time Butcher describes a woman you can basically skip half a page ahead and just assume she’s hot. He was influenced by Piers Anthony.
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Mar 30, 2018 16:35
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Waltzing Along posted:He was influenced by Piers Anthony. I don't remember any five year olds giving impassioned defenses of pedophiles in Butcher's work tbh.
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Mar 30, 2018 16:44
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Zore posted:I don't remember any five year olds giving impassioned defenses of pedophiles in Butcher's work tbh.  I'm glad I have no idea what you are talking about.
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Mar 30, 2018 16:49
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E: oops wrong piers
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Mar 30, 2018 16:50
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Waltzing Along posted:
https://litreactor.com/columns/themes-of-pedophilia-in-the-works-of-piers-anthony
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Mar 30, 2018 16:53
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I am glad I never read that. I just remember him describing girls and their boobs in Xanth novels constantly.
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Mar 30, 2018 16:56
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A. Beaverhausen posted:E: oops wrong piers Piers Morgan then.
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Mar 31, 2018 00:06
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Spun Dog posted:Piers Morgan then. Yup, got em mixed up
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seaborgium posted:I read Flex recently, which has a main character kind of like that. In those, if someone obsesses over something enough like Star Wars or videogames they can do magic which is based on that sort of thing. So videogame people can easily steal cars and run away from the cops, or pull a bazooka out of nowhere. In Flex the main character obsesses over bureaucracy enough that he starts being able to do magic based on paperwork. It makes more sense than I'm explaining, but it isn't bad. Syzygy Stardust posted:I read that a couple of years ago, it was indeed decent. Fantasy needed an insurance adjuster hero, it just didn’t know it. I'm a few pages back, but I can't find this on Amazon. Who's the author?
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Apr 2, 2018 00:59
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Ferrett Steinmetz
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Proteus Jones posted:While 2-3 hours sounds a bit quick, these aren't necessarily filled with challenging prose. Nor would I consider an average sized novel "major" in terms of length. I guess I'm weird and read things at about the speed I think they are occurring? I always got this vibe that there was a good lot of dick measuring among readers about how fast they can read and it continues to baffle me. There's no way you aren't depriving yourselves.
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Apr 2, 2018 15:42
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Mr Scumbag posted:I guess I'm weird and read things at about the speed I think they are occurring? I mean Butcher writes short chapters so you can knock out like 14 in an hour or so. But yeah, I'm definitely in the 'absorb the content' camp.
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Apr 2, 2018 17:38
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Mr Scumbag posted:I guess I'm weird and read things at about the speed I think they are occurring? Not exactly. I'm not a speed reader, but I read fast, very fast really. I also have a very high retention rate. This is learned behavior, and anyone can improve. It's a great benefit in academia, and pretty much neutral in anything else. Not depriving myself of anything, I think.
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Apr 2, 2018 18:46
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To be fair, Dresden Files books are pretty drat easy to get through.
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Apr 2, 2018 23:00
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Hell any time Harry goes on his tangent about how ok he feels about the damsel in distress thing blinding him like it does you can skip two pages there, along with the previously mentioned descriptions of women.
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Apr 3, 2018 03:44
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Nice dragons finish last, Heartstrikers series is a pretty fun read so far, working though the 5 book series now. Urban Fantasy, but slightly in the future. Bob is pretty much a Sanderson character, but it works.
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Apr 3, 2018 07:39
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The last Iron Druid book comes out today.
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Apr 3, 2018 15:16
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Ornamented Death posted:The last Iron Druid book comes out today. Finally the nightmare is ended. I only read the first few on a lark, they were bad. Considering reading synopsis of the rest just to see how it ends. Closure and all that.
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Apr 3, 2018 15:26
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Ornamented Death posted:The last Iron Druid book comes out today. I'll take one for the team and read this because I have nothing better to do.
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Apr 3, 2018 16:59
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I mean, I liked his dog? That was ok. Being a 2000 year old manchild was less ok, though.
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Apr 3, 2018 17:01
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The first few pages so far sound like a much more sober/somber character than I read in the previous book (except for when he's talking to his dog), but there is a time skip where he references a bunch of poo poo happening in another novella that I'm definitely not going to bother reading.
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Apr 3, 2018 17:04
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I'm fine with writers putting out novellas as side stories, but I really hate it when they're referenced in the main line. The more it's referenced, the more I hate it.
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Welp, he's not loving around too much with pointless hound stories. Straight to the consulting with diviners about when/where Ragnarok is going to kick off and Chapter 2 switches to the Archdruid's POV. I'll post later about my overall feelings for the book, but it reads like a return to Book One-Three levels of "This poo poo is actually serious, let's not gently caress around". No stupid memes yet. EDIT: Book finished, was barely long enough to be considered a novel. There was a reference to One Punch Man midway through the book that I rolled my eyes at, but that was about it. I would have liked the ending a lot better if Atticus didn't just so happen to have favors he could call in to have his arm replaced at some point in the future, or if Freyja had straight up killed him instead of just cutting off the arm that had all of his healing/shape-shifting/etc. tattoos on them. I laughed at the mental image of a killer sloth hopped up on Druidic speed/strength bindings jumping into a fight and tearing the throat out of one of the minor threats in the book, and I did like the rule-lawyering for how Jormungandr was defeated, but other than that, it's pretty much "Big bads defeated, nobody that mattered died, or if they did die one just has to walk to the plane their spirit went to in order to visit them, so what." Some Pinko Commie fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Apr 3, 2018 |
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I don't know how but the Iron Druid guy made a talking dog unlikable And I maintain the lolcats bit is an indefensible travesty
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I took a peek and at least he does a very considerate thing of putting in a "previously on" summary at the start of the book. Every series should do this.
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Megazver posted:I took a peek and at least he does a very considerate thing of putting in a "previously on" summary at the start of the book. Every series should do this. A few do. Charming comes immediately to mind. Most, though, just spend a paragraph catching you up when the info comes up again, which is better IMO.
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Megazver posted:I took a peek and at least he does a very considerate thing of putting in a "previously on" summary at the start of the book. Every series should do this. Well, I do like that, but it backfired somewhat for me, since the last time I bought an Iron Druid book the summary at the start said something along the lines of "a bunch of super important stuff happened between this book and the last one, so you should go buy an anthology containing my short story if you want to know the full story". At which point I just returned the book and read something else instead. If it's important to the story, just put it in the loving book; don't make me chase down short stories hidden in overpriced anthologies.
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Blasphemeral posted:A few do. Charming comes immediately to mind. It works better in more episodic series, like UF usually is, than in, say, epic fantasy, which benefits from it the most.
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Apoffys posted:Well, I do like that, but it backfired somewhat for me, since the last time I bought an Iron Druid book the summary at the start said something along the lines of "a bunch of super important stuff happened between this book and the last one, so you should go buy an anthology containing my short story if you want to know the full story". At which point I just returned the book and read something else instead. If it's important to the story, just put it in the loving book; don't make me chase down short stories hidden in overpriced anthologies. I skipped the short stories involving the dogs solving a mystery or whatever and I lost nothing. If you've only read the books you'll be fine - you might not understand a few details, but it's not a big deal. One thing I give Hearne credit for is how he writes Coyote. He always gets laughs out of me.
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Apoffys posted:Well, I do like that, but it backfired somewhat for me, since the last time I bought an Iron Druid book the summary at the start said something along the lines of "a bunch of super important stuff happened between this book and the last one, so you should go buy an anthology containing my short story if you want to know the full story". At which point I just returned the book and read something else instead. If it's important to the story, just put it in the loving book; don't make me chase down short stories hidden in overpriced anthologies. Some stories work better as novellas than tacked onto a novel.
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EVGA Longoria posted:Some stories work better as novellas than tacked onto a novel. Some stories also work better as tinder for my grill or fireplace. And?
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I like how the Dresden short stories are handled. They get referenced from time to time in the main books, but if you haven't read them, they're just "this thing Harry did off screen"
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Megazver posted:It works better in more episodic series, like UF usually is, than in, say, epic fantasy, which benefits from it the most. Huh?
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