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RabidWeasel
Aug 4, 2007

Cultures thrive on their myths and legends...and snuggles!

Mr.Morgenstern posted:

Guys I accidentally got someone to buy Victoria 2. What is my punishment for this horrible crime?

Report for reeducation until you correctly no longer believe that you did anything wrong.

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uPen
Jan 25, 2010

Zu Rodina!

Mr.Morgenstern posted:

Guys I accidentally got someone to buy Victoria 2. What is my punishment for this horrible crime?

You need to buy them HoD and House Divided so that they own the complete version of the best Paradox game.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


uPen posted:

You need to buy them HoD and House Divided so that they own the complete version of the best Paradox game.

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

uPen posted:

You need to buy them HoD and House Divided so that they own the complete version of the best Paradox game.

thirding.

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009

Mr.Morgenstern posted:

Guys I accidentally got someone to buy Victoria 2. What is my punishment for this horrible crime?

You'll get to hear them complain about Victoria III not being out yet for the next 20 years.

catlord
Mar 22, 2009

What's on your mind, Axa?
I need to pick up HoD, but I keep on thinking that most of my Vic2 play time would be converted games that I'm not running because I'm also real far behind on EU4 DLC, plus I'm sure they'll announce Vic3 shortly after I finally do buy it.

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

ExtraNoise posted:

I did the thing, you guys. I applied to Paradox.

I have to assume I'm a shoe-in since i've never made a Victoria 3 joke. Need to confirm with a PDX goon that this is the only requirement for employment.

Nice! I hope in the future we'll get a full release of Moments: A Game of Consequences and we can all ruin Ethan's life again. :moments:

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Koramei posted:

Yeah, China needs mechanics to consolidate beyond just a strong CB and permanent claims. There's just too much development (while simultaneously being way, way, lower than it actually should be) for conventional mechanics to suffice for it. There needs to be something that just swings whole chunks of it under your control rapidly. Russia gets area claims, maybe the China regions should get area coring.

I still think the thunderdome is just really boring though. It's just what the entire rest of the game is but with generic tags; having a strong China makes the region much more unique in the game world. What I'd really like to see in terms of variety, rather than China exploding (more than once in a blue moon anyway) is just different dynasties. Qing, Yuan, Tibet, Vietnam, Korea. Or hell, "oh poo poo, Sarig Yogir conquered China, how'd that happen?" You get that with every other region in the game, and while having Ming-eternal precludes that, nobody's ever going to give a poo poo about Wu or Yan getting swoll.

Yea, this what I was hoping to happen when they started unveiling MoH. You could give different E Asian nations their own unique dynastic name if they take the mandate.

feller
Jul 5, 2006


catlord posted:

plus I'm sure they'll announce Vic3 shortly after I finally do buy it.

In that case buy it immediately you butthead

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

ExtraNoise posted:

I did the thing, you guys. I applied to Paradox.

I have to assume I'm a shoe-in since i've never made a Victoria 3 joke. Need to confirm with a PDX goon that this is the only requirement for employment.

Good luck! You're living the dream!


Fellblade posted:

Good luck! If only I could bring myself to up sticks and move to another country!

Same here. Or if only they spontaneously decided to open a studio near me.

Myssu posted:

Good luck, keep us updated :) I've been considering doing likewise recently, except that there don't seem to be any programming roles available currently and I'm not sure my CV would survive the move to design.

Even though moving to Sweden isn't a possibility for me, I do check in regularly to their page, and programming positions seem to pop back up regularly enough.

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010


??!! Vicky 3 confirmed?

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Mr.Morgenstern posted:

Guys I accidentally got someone to buy Victoria 2. What is my punishment for this horrible crime?

teaching them how to play it

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

boner confessor posted:

teaching them how to play it

But first deleting their map cache folder because the game won't load after trying to launch in Steam.

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Koramei posted:

Yeah, China needs mechanics to consolidate beyond just a strong CB and permanent claims. There's just too much development (while simultaneously being way, way, lower than it actually should be) for conventional mechanics to suffice for it. There needs to be something that just swings whole chunks of it under your control rapidly. Russia gets area claims, maybe the China regions should get area coring.
That is a good idea, though it should perhaps be expanded even more? Not sure it would encourage the kind of rapid conquest required to really make an impact on its own. Maybe make it so provinces in the China region only count for 25% of normal when it comes to Overextension to any country that has the "Take Mandate of Heaven" CB or is the Emperor of China.

Koramei posted:

I still think the thunderdome is just really boring though. It's just what the entire rest of the game is but with generic tags; having a strong China makes the region much more unique in the game world. What I'd really like to see in terms of variety, rather than China exploding (more than once in a blue moon anyway) is just different dynasties. Qing, Yuan, Tibet, Vietnam, Korea. Or hell, "oh poo poo, Sarig Yogir conquered China, how'd that happen?" You get that with every other region in the game, and while having Ming-eternal precludes that, nobody's ever going to give a poo poo about Wu or Yan getting swoll.
Agreed. It'd actually be pretty cool if a takeover by a non-Chinese country happened relatively often - but sometimes it'd be the Qing with their northern focus, other times it'd be a southern-oriented China ruled by the Vietnamese. It'd be pretty neat if there was a custom (a)historical dynasty option for a few more of China's neighbors, like Qing/Yuan, which would encourage the AI to form them and to create a focus for them when they succeeded.

Wild Horses
Oct 31, 2012

There's really no meaning in making beetles fight.
hoi4 is fun. just got done conquering germany and soviet union with a tag team of poland and romania with a friend.
Some stuff is clunky as hell still, like divisions shuffling around and exchanging positions for no apparent reason, or how armies deal with pockets forming.

anyone try to play as manchukuo with the newest dlc?

Groogy
Jun 12, 2014

Tanks are kinda wasted on invading the USSR

ExtraNoise posted:

I did the thing, you guys. I applied to Paradox.

I have to assume I'm a shoe-in since i've never made a Victoria 3 joke. Need to confirm with a PDX goon that this is the only requirement for employment.

For what did you apply to?

ExtraNoise posted:

But first deleting their map cache folder because the game won't load after trying to launch in Steam.

Nope sorry I fixed that in the Christmas patch. Game for casuals now, too easy to launch.

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

Groogy posted:

For what did you apply to?

Freelance Content Designer. Not sure if the Content Designer position was filled or if the ad listing just expired (it was about six months old), but that would be the ideal spot.

I took a pretty untraditional approach to my application, putting everything I've done in the form of a letter: http://www.rick-pierce.com/dearparadox/ (Goons have been pretty good to me over the years, what with most of those projects being on SA at one time or another.)

Groogy posted:

Nope sorry I fixed that in the Christmas patch. Game for casuals now, too easy to launch.

Ugh. It's literally playable now.

GrossMurpel
Apr 8, 2011

ExtraNoise posted:

Freelance Content Designer.

What does that mean? Is it synonymous with Idea Guy or does it involve programming?

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

GrossMurpel posted:

What does that mean? Is it synonymous with Idea Guy or does it involve programming?

Content Designer here: it is a really weird position that is pretty much unique to Paradox. The reason is that we have a very powerful and fairly accessible scripting language that handles pretty much all the player-facing content of the game. The joke around the office is "Programmers do code, Game Designers do balance and mechanics, Artists do art, QA does testing, Content Designers do EVERYTHING ELSE".

More specifically, we do
- events
- map work
- national focus trees (Hearts of Iron only)
- anomalies, ascension perks, technologies
- missions
- decisions
- leaders (art, traits, names)
- historical research for art
- (often) reworking programmer English into things people can actually understand
- AI work, in so far as it can be scripted

but in general, anything the script language can do is sooner or later going to end up on our table in one way or another. It is an amazingly interesting job with a ton of creative freedom. It has elements of being the Idea Guy, but you are very much expected to actually implement your idea using the scripting language. You don't have to know a programming language but it help a lot. I'd say being able to explain the difference between a logic AND and a logic OR (and how the logic OR differs from the colloquial "or") is as much programming as you really need.

I guess the short version is we're paid modders. With how flexible the scripting language is, making a mod probably covers like 90% of what we do. Which is why we are recruiting modders pretty heavily (recently hired one of the guys who made the GoT mod for CK 2)

LordMune
Nov 21, 2006

Helim needed to be invisible.
Internally content designers are referred to as "CDs" for short, which works because we're Cool Dudes

Edit: to actually contribute, any text (any at all) you see in our games will have been written or at least edited by a Content Designer.

Well, that's, uh, the idea anyway.

LordMune fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Mar 31, 2018

uPen
Jan 25, 2010

Zu Rodina!

LordMune posted:

Internally content designers are referred to as "CDs" for short, which works because we're Cool Dudes

Edit: to actually contribute, any text (any at all) you see in our games will have been written or at least edited by a Content Designer.

Well, that's, uh, the idea anyway.

Was it you or Wiz that wrote courage push the bravery?

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

You guys should hire Extranoise he really likes to make arts and little mods and poo poo and will make good things and he's a nice boy.

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

Baronjutter posted:

You guys should hire Extranoise he really likes to make arts and little mods and poo poo and will make good things and he's a nice boy.

Baro, I'm using you as a reference, thanks.

Vivian Darkbloom
Jul 14, 2004


uPen posted:

Was it you or Wiz that wrote courage push the bravery?

I think that was some fan-made game, "Capitalists builds a factroy" is the go-to here

Bold Robot
Jan 6, 2009

Be brave.



Baronjutter posted:

You guys should hire Extranoise he really likes to make arts and little mods and poo poo and will make good things and he's a nice boy.

+1, EN is a great dude and I have spent countless hours playing content he developed.

LordMune
Nov 21, 2006

Helim needed to be invisible.
I've mentioned applicants being goons in at least one recruitment process in the past (perhaps when we hired Archangel?) and it's always awkward trying to explain the whole extremely online extremely has-been comedy forum thing

IIRC our manager thought "goon" was some kind of slur at first :shobon:

The Cheshire Cat
Jun 10, 2008

Fun Shoe

LordMune posted:

I've mentioned applicants being goons in at least one recruitment process in the past (perhaps when we hired Archangel?) and it's always awkward trying to explain the whole extremely online extremely has-been comedy forum thing

IIRC our manager thought "goon" was some kind of slur at first :shobon:

It isn't?

ThaumPenguin
Oct 9, 2013

"Goon" was a slur reclaimed in advance

e: (I don't know what this means)

ThaumPenguin fucked around with this message at 01:56 on Apr 1, 2018

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

Moments II confirmed??

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

LordMune posted:

I've mentioned applicants being goons in at least one recruitment process in the past (perhaps when we hired Archangel?) and it's always awkward trying to explain the whole extremely online extremely has-been comedy forum thing

IIRC our manager thought "goon" was some kind of slur at first :shobon:

I only revealed myself after I was safely hired.

That said I feel like I missed an opportunity to drop the stairs question in my interview with podcat.

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

LordMune posted:

IIRC our manager thought "goon" was some kind of slur at first :shobon:
In a case of historical serendipity, it used to be a slur that referred to being a foolish, silly, or awkward person.

catlord
Mar 22, 2009

What's on your mind, Axa?
Has there been any hints to what Paradox might be announcing? It's supposed to be a game by Triumph and a game by Paradox, right?

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



A Buttery Pastry posted:

In a case of historical serendipity, it used to be a slur that referred to being a foolish, silly, or awkward person.

Also used to refer to someone thuggish, i.e. if you didn't pay lowtax the don his re-reg protection money he'd send his goons to see you.

Radio Free Kobold
Aug 11, 2012

"Federal regulations mandate that at least 30% of our content must promote Reptilian or Draconic culture. This is DJ Scratch N' Sniff with the latest mermaid screeching on KBLD..."




LordMune posted:

I've mentioned applicants being goons in at least one recruitment process in the past (perhaps when we hired Archangel?) and it's always awkward trying to explain the whole extremely online extremely has-been comedy forum thing

IIRC our manager thought "goon" was some kind of slur at first :shobon:

Take a page from 4chan's Rules of the Internet and don't talk about SA. Otherwise you wind up with this poo poo, where you have to explain to people who matter that you're a notorious shitposter.
Actually, y'know what, just forget the internet exists altogether as soon as you step out your front door. It will improve your life.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

Radio Free Kobold posted:

Take a page from 4chan's Rules of the Internet and don't talk about SA. Otherwise you wind up with this poo poo, where you have to explain to people who matter that you're a notorious shitposter.
Actually, y'know what, just forget the internet exists altogether as soon as you step out your front door. It will improve your life.
One of the old rear end things about SA is that it's still part of the old internet where you're supposed to keep real life and the online one seperate

Gods know that most people I know would hardly even believe the things I post here

GrossMurpel
Apr 8, 2011

Deceitful Penguin posted:

One of the old rear end things about SA is that it's still part of the old internet where you're supposed to keep real life and the online one seperate

Gods know that most people I know would hardly even believe the things I post here

I'm looking forward to how job interviews will work in a few years when you can google an applicant's name and pull up the youtube comments they made under their real name when they were 12 :allears:

Radio Free Kobold
Aug 11, 2012

"Federal regulations mandate that at least 30% of our content must promote Reptilian or Draconic culture. This is DJ Scratch N' Sniff with the latest mermaid screeching on KBLD..."




GrossMurpel posted:

I'm looking forward to how job interviews will work in a few years when you can google an applicant's name and pull up the youtube comments they made under their real name when they were 12 :allears:

or worse, pornhub comments made two weeks ago
"well this guy's got the skills and the experience we're looking for but his background check indicates he likes cuckold porn, is that really the kind of person we want working for our company?"

The Cheshire Cat
Jun 10, 2008

Fun Shoe

Radio Free Kobold posted:

or worse, pornhub comments made two weeks ago
"well this guy's got the skills and the experience we're looking for but his background check indicates he likes cuckold porn, is that really the kind of person we want working for our company?"

I mean, in this case having someone else get the job might actually be what they want anyway.

Ofaloaf
Feb 15, 2013

The last time I applied to a gaming-related posting (that very same pdx freelance content designer gig), I actually put a specific SA link in part of it, since I thought showcasing some LP writing and LP-related modding might be a good idea.

I still don't know what I'm doing when I'm applying to these things.

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axeil
Feb 14, 2006

catlord posted:

Has there been any hints to what Paradox might be announcing? It's supposed to be a game by Triumph and a game by Paradox, right?

It's Victoria 3 and I won't accept their insistence that it isn't.

Real pro move would've been to announce Vicky 3 yesterday but actually have it be a real announcement and confuse everyone.

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