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..uhhh...won't that destroy how Parliament functions? And they it over a cause that few people beyond the Herald Sun actually cares about?
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Mar 30, 2018 03:06
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The labor party has already given them a second chance on pairs after Abbott hosed them over. I hope they salt the Earth and never look back
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Mar 30, 2018 03:09
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Also, wouldn't government just bring it up again as soon as they had the numbers again and undo whatever was done?
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Mar 30, 2018 03:09
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JBP posted:The Babysitter is better than expected btw what should I watch next? If you liked the Babysitter try Game Over Man. I like how they say socialist and expect people to gasp like it's a horrendous word. Like sharing the burden with others is such a terrible thing. Are all Liberals only children who never learned to share? Or maybe they're all eldest children who go upset when they had to share?
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Mar 30, 2018 03:13
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Somehow the Hun will make it Dandrews fault and how Matthew Guy is a political wizard.
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Mar 30, 2018 03:35
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The Greens are now the Democrats? Didn't see coming. Maybe I should join the socialist alliance... Did they ever manage to stop tearing themselves apart?
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Mar 30, 2018 03:35
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SecretOfSteel posted:The Greens are now the Democrats? Didn't see coming. Maybe I should join the socialist alliance... Did they ever manage to stop tearing themselves apart?
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Mar 30, 2018 03:41
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The adults are in charge.
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Mar 30, 2018 03:52
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Bartlett is the second most left wing person in the senate after Lee. Not to say his history isn't a bit weird but to say he's only in it for a seat is ridiculous. He was a left Democrat voted against the GST, never fit them well and has moved significantly leftwards since, he's also been a core member of the QLD Greens for many years now. I think the post was politically stupid but I didn't realise the ALP had become so above reproach for its historic bad policy ideas. Giving penalty rates to FWC was always going to end up like this.
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Mar 30, 2018 03:53
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You Am I posted:Somehow the Hun will make it Dandrews fault and how Matthew Guy is a political wizard. From the people who gave you Dan Andrews ball-tampering accusations.
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Mar 30, 2018 04:24
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This was at the end of ~21 hours of debate on the bill, that went all night and all morning. gently caress the Libs. gently caress them so hard. The sneaky dog rat cunts.
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Mar 30, 2018 04:33
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Yeah this isn't something I would try to do in opposition. Its like playing the nuclear option when the other guy has most of the launch codes.
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Mar 30, 2018 04:43
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Wow, I had thought the story was that Labor MPs asked for a pair and the Libs denied them so they could block the bill, but the reality is so much dodgier.
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Mar 30, 2018 04:52
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Hooooooly poo poo. This is going to be an ugly election. Things between Labor and the Libs already aren't good, but this is just going to destroy any possibility of good relationships between the two. I imagine a good number of Libs won't be happy about it either - more than a few of them don't like Guy, Labor is never going to do them another pairing again (at least in this Parliament), and it's over a stupid nothing Bill that a vast majority of people don't know or care about.
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Mar 30, 2018 04:59
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Someone find the video of the God Emperor of QLD Bob Katter being the best ripping into the federal libs pretty much saying he hopes labor doesn't do pairing with them when one if their family dies after abbott dogged someone.
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Mar 30, 2018 05:10
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Dude McAwesome posted:The sneaky dog rat cunts. That's genuinely the only way to describe it
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Mar 30, 2018 05:39
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Mar 30, 2018 05:50
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Given the vote passed under false pretences, is there any sort of precedent for winding it back or something>?
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Mar 30, 2018 05:53
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tithin posted:Given the vote passed under false pretences, is there any sort of precedent for winding it back or something>? Pairing agreements are informal by nature so no. Pulling a fast one on Vic Labor seems a dangerous manoeuver, they're masters of political game playing and will find a way to punish the Liberals for this.
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Mar 30, 2018 06:02
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Whitlam posted:Hooooooly poo poo. This is going to be an ugly election. Things between Labor and the Libs already aren't good, but this is just going to destroy any possibility of good relationships between the two. I imagine a good number of Libs won't be happy about it either - more than a few of them don't like Guy, Labor is never going to do them another pairing again (at least in this Parliament), and it's over a stupid nothing Bill that a vast majority of people don't know or care about. Sounds like a good thing to me, would be nice to have a centre-leftish party that isn't completely crippled by  .
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Mar 30, 2018 06:21
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what does this mean for richard di natale's au pair ambitions?
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Mar 30, 2018 06:38
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https://mobile.twitter.com/MartinPakulaMP/status/979544512513982464 Following the teachings of noted liar, Jesus Christ, on this sacred day.
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Mar 30, 2018 06:40
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Inescapable Duck posted:Sounds like a good thing to me, would be nice to have a centre-leftish party that isn't completely crippled by I disagree. It means we're in for like seven months of dirty politics and people trying to dredge up whatever poo poo they can. I mean, more than normal. It's gonna be a stressful time for anyone who works in politics. I just don't get it. It's dumb, apart from anything else. It's a move you can only pull once, we're still seven months out from the election, and it's a Bill that has little public interest and is a move that will have, at best, minimal public support. Edit: of course it's Bernie Finn. Of. loving. Course.
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Mar 30, 2018 06:43
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I can't see a way the LNP comes out of this looking good. First, the bill was (I think) about compensation for firefighters whose cancer was contracted in their line of duty. Secondly it's making a big song and dance of being religious and then, whoops soz nvm. Can't look good in a state where there are A LOT of Catholics. It'll also backfire against them in the next parliament. If LNP win it'll be a hair thin majority, and this gives Labor licence to just say "nope gently caress you" when the LNP legit needs pairs. that'll make it difficult to pass all the legislation they might want to pass
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Mar 30, 2018 06:55
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The Before Times posted:I can't see a way the LNP comes out of this looking good. First, the bill was (I think) about compensation for firefighters whose cancer was contracted in their line of duty. Secondly it's making a big song and dance of being religious and then, whoops soz nvm. Can't look good in a state where there are A LOT of Catholics. also if they've got a one seat majority they better turn up every time because Labor will be more than happy to pass a motion of no confidence in the government to embarass them.
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Mar 30, 2018 06:58
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Solemn Sloth posted:also if they've got a one seat majority they better turn up every time because Labor will be more than happy to pass a motion of no confidence in the government to embarass them. Yep exactly.
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Mar 30, 2018 07:05
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The Before Times posted:I can't see a way the LNP comes out of this looking good. First, the bill was (I think) about compensation for firefighters whose cancer was contracted in their line of duty. Secondly it's making a big song and dance of being religious and then, whoops soz nvm. Can't look good in a state where there are A LOT of Catholics. In theory they could use stuff like this to show how bad the LNP are, but they will probably barely bother and then the media will put out a bunch of stories about how the Apex Gang are taking over Victoria.
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Mar 30, 2018 07:07
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LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:In theory they could use stuff like this to show how bad the LNP are, but they will probably barely bother and then the media will put out a bunch of stories about how the Apex Gang are taking over Victoria. wrong: they will kick and scream about it and then the media will barely report on it, instead putting out a bunch of stories about how the Apex Gang are taking over victoria.
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Mar 30, 2018 07:09
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Whitlam posted:I disagree. It means we're in for like seven months of dirty politics and people trying to dredge up whatever poo poo they can. I mean, more than normal. It's gonna be a stressful time for anyone who works in politics. Good.
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Mar 30, 2018 07:17
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All this AB hate is just coz y'all can't handle a bit of revolution qld-style. - LW was always going to get her seat back because number 2 was meant to be her little brother not AB - BP is to earn his number 2 seat with stop adani/Galilee blockade - AB was never going to stay in the Senate (because of the above points) - AB campaigned in QLD during the federal election, LW campaigned in Vic. (Fun fact just to muddy the "waters" when goons ITT play pin-the-tree-tory-label-on-the-greenie) - Qld Greens would never touch the LNP (unlike the aus greens) and the attack on ALP is to reinforce their "revolutionary credentials" (because in practise qgreens and qalp are basically the same thing, only difference is one wins seats). Qalp votes are going down and qgreens want to catch them, and AB mixes with the activist crowds who are all secret young labor members and he is trying to convert them.
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Mar 30, 2018 07:22
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bell jar posted:Fuckin lmao Reposting because the original tweet was deleted 
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The Before Times posted:I can't see a way the LNP comes out of this looking good. First, the bill was (I think) about compensation for firefighters whose cancer was contracted in their line of duty. LNP have an ideological hatred of professional firefighters. Because we’re heavily unionised. So the flip side of that is they love ARE VOLUNTEERS and are trying to secure votes in regional electorates by carrying on about how they love CFA HERO VOLUNTEERS and won’t KOWTOW TO UNION THUGS FROM THE CITY. Should fire service reform and cancer legislation have been tied up together? Probably not. But there was no loving way in hell of getting fire service reforms through without tying it to presumptive cancer legislation for firefighters.
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fiery_valkyrie posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/MartinPakulaMP/status/979544512513982464 Bernie Finn, the bible bashing racist and homophobe. Que surprise.
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Mar 30, 2018 07:52
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Dude McAwesome posted:Should fire service reform and cancer legislation have been tied up together? Probably not. But there was no loving way in hell of getting fire service reforms through without tying it to presumptive cancer legislation for firefighters. The logic of tying them together was indeed "they can't oppose this without looking bad, and if they do, we can use it". The mistake was thinking they remotely gave a gently caress about looking bad.
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Mar 30, 2018 08:16
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Whitlam posted:The logic of tying them together was indeed "they can't oppose this without looking bad, and if they do, we can use it". The mistake was thinking they remotely gave a gently caress about looking bad. It drives me crazy. These loving Liberal MPs putting communities at risk so that volunteer firefighters can have their little hobby of driving around in a red truck. Which wouldn’t be an issue if volunteers were able to meet the service delivery standards required of them in order to effectively protect their communities. But they can’t. And so they oppose fire service reform because they don’t want their hobby taken away from them.
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Mar 30, 2018 08:21
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It's about making people work for free. It's always about making people work for free.
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Mar 30, 2018 08:29
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Dude McAwesome posted:It drives me crazy. These loving Liberal MPs putting communities at risk so that volunteer firefighters can have their little hobby of driving around in a red truck.
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Mar 30, 2018 09:19
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Mr Chips posted:That's a pretty incendiary description of volunteer rural firefighters. Seeing as their campaigning gave us a federal Liberal government and they’ve interfered in professional firefighter’s safety, pay and conditions they can go and gently caress themselves.
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all ~50,000 CFA volunteers? I've tried to read up on this CFA/UFU thing but it still makes no sense to an outsider. The CFA volunteers were certainly welcome relief when they came over to SA for the Pinery creek fire a few years ago, and their skill level wasn't an issue.
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