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Saucer Crab posted:Fracture was good, I miss Fracture. Hell I miss having the stun on WAR as an extra dps button to slam, muscle memory is still there. I miss fracture on level synced pld because it was their best dps until you got goring blade.
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Philonius posted:I've never seen the reason for going solo healer runs. The solo healer won't be DPSing as much so the actual kill time is not drastically improved, but it just adds mechanic headaches like that.
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Mar 30, 2018 01:22
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Mr. Nice! posted:I miss fracture on level synced pld because it was their best dps until you got goring blade. I miss fracture because levelsynced paladin is boring as hell. Even as high as 50 you basically only have halone combo, spirits within and circle of scorn to press.
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Philonius posted:I've never seen the reason for going solo healer runs. The solo healer won't be DPSing as much so the actual kill time is not drastically improved, but it just adds mechanic headaches like that. It has nothing to do with kill time and everything to do with time to form a party. The fewer non-DPS needed for the party the faster you can actually get to the content.
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Mar 30, 2018 01:34
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It's definitely also kill time. A solo healer with 2000 dps and a dps with 5000 dps is better than two healers at 2500dps or whatever people do these days. Ideal party for farming old poo poo is 1/1/6 if mechanics permit it. If they don't just go 2/2/4 tho, it won't be that big a difference 
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Mar 30, 2018 01:45
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Mar 30, 2018 01:56
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check out this good opinion over here anyway what I really miss as a warrior are bloodbath and flash thanks for reading
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I miss the sound bloodbath + overpower made on a big pull. I never felt as if it were doing anything meaningful, but it was satisfying all the same. Steel Cyclone isn't quite the same.
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Mar 30, 2018 02:08
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Fell Cleave has the second most satisfying sound in the game though. (First is Gravity, third is Holy.)
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Mar 30, 2018 02:24
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Mar 30, 2018 02:26
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while we're at it I with BLM had more actually good casting animations. Their oGCDs are good (especially Triplecast) but the actual GCD animation just doesn't do it for me. SCH/SMN's feels way more dynamic. The effects are generally pretty good tho.
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Mar 30, 2018 02:37
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Mar 30, 2018 02:52
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Trying to clear A11S is like being repeatedly beaten with a bag of rotten oranges.
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Mar 30, 2018 02:58
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forward and backward and forward and backward and forward and
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Mar 30, 2018 03:11
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I'm going to hear that in my nightmares tonight. Savages Left to Clear: - Midas: 8 - Deltascape: 3, 4 - Sigmascape: 7, 8
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Mar 30, 2018 04:26
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itskage posted:Wrong quote? Yes, but not anymore. Thank you.
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vOv posted:while we're at it I with BLM had more actually good casting animations. Their oGCDs are good (especially Triplecast) but the actual GCD animation just doesn't do it for me. SCH/SMN's feels way more dynamic. Highlander BLM casting animation is awful. Are Midlander / Xaela / Raen animation any better?
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Mar 30, 2018 05:18
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I can say that Raen and Hellsguard BLM animations are pretty baller.
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Mar 30, 2018 05:24
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I thought that casting animations didn't have race/gender differences? e: for reference I'm a Xaela.
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Saucer Crab posted:Fracture was good, I miss Fracture. Hell I miss having the stun on WAR as an extra dps button to slam, muscle memory is still there. I mean you hit Upheaval about as often as you hit Brutal Swing (25 vs 30 cooldown). It's not like the gauge cost really matters now that you spend 95% of the time with 40+ gauge.
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EponymousMrYar posted:In SB, the only dynamic for growth was Alisaie getting used to how things are done and Lyse learning that you can't just punch politics. There was no inter-group conflict and on the whole the expac was more concerned with 'hey this is a neat new place completely different from what we're used to, let's learn about it!' I wonder if the key to Heavensward vs Stormblood at this stage is that we 1) don't have the full story of Stormblood laid out to us yet 2) Stormblood lacks that feeling of 'Things are never going to be the same again.' that Heavesnward had. By the time Heavensward had rolled around, the 'normal' we were accustomed to with the Warrior of Light had been upended completely. The Scions were basically gone and really, they still are. This isn't a story about the Scions coming to bail you out in cutscenes like 1.0 any longer. I feel like the only way they could really recapture that feeling again would be if they completely upended the status quo on us. I dunno, revealed that Zodiark is the real planetary spirit and Hydelain is a Primal, or something like that. (Lahabrea IS fast to call her a parasite that threatens the world's aetheric balance afterall...)
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Gearhead posted:(Lahabrea IS fast to call her a parasite that threatens the world's aetheric balance afterall...) I don't think they're going to do something like suddenly reveal Hydaelyn is a planetary primal or whatever. If they did do something like that, it seems more like they would expand the definition and there would be some kind of thought-form platonic ideal category which includes primals but includes Hydaelyn and Zodiark. Like some STALKER noosphere poo poo.
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Gearhead posted:I feel like the only way they could really recapture that feeling again would be if they completely upended the status quo on us. Once the return to Ul'dah happened that was basically over. The awesome road trip that everyone loves and remembers happens after the Ul'dah resolution. Also, Stormblood definitely did that segue better than HW. 'Wow Zenos kicked our butts pretty hard maybe we should try someplace where he isn't and 'coincidentally' work on like, four things we've had on the backburner since before HW.' You can't use the same stakes for the same reason again because that is like, the height of boringness.
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Heavensward was sad and depressing and everyone did dumb poo poo and died and was entirely too based on Game of Thrones, which sucks rear end and is made by an rear end in a top hat. I liked it overall but I mean the big plot payoff in the end is that they reinvent the worst government ever devised that isnt (outright) fascism whoo yay Stormblood has some focus issues but Yanxia and the whole plot arc where you help a bunch of hill people (and I have a soft spot for hill people, hill people own) deal with being hosed over and traumatized by imperial forces is bar none the best "middle level" jrpg plot arc ever and I liked that the overall theme was that of liberation and rising up and having hope for the future after having the everloving poo poo kicked out of you. Overall I think it's cool that mostly you as WOL helped a bunch of people secure their own liberation and didn't just spend a bunch of time babysitting Einstinien who is absolutely jonesin to toke up and gently caress everything up AGAIN while blaring Simple Plan and crying about dragons the whole time. The various fantasy cultures and how they interact is way more interesting than "wow ishgard and the elf pope sure are being assholes again while this dragon is too old and wise to give a poo poo about lifting a talon to make everyone's lives not absolutely miserable again god i hate all these ishgard people i dont want to do anything for them." and of course they kill off ysayle because game of throoooooooooones I have some (major) issues with some of the plot beats in the patch stories so far in Stormblood but they mostly boil down to that I want the plot to go Fullly Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism but of course it never will so whatever. The real genius of Stormblood anyway is that they have gotten REALLY good at what they do, and there's a lot of small decisions around balancing and how content is designed that shows they actually give a poo poo about the quality of life and the fun things to do in this game, like note how everybody loved to pull the entire dungeon, AOE it, and skip past barriers in unintended ways? Then for a while they just started putting barriers you have to clear mobs with after every goddamned pack and it was tedious? But then in Stormblood they gave everyone good AOE rotations and designed the dungeons so you can do fun big pulls if you want and it's fine and doesn't break the pacing. There's a story told with the mechanics and systems in this game, and it's really good, and they keep making it better. Like this might be the only MMO ever where after it's been around a while there likely won't be a clamoring to return to the "good old days" of X or Y expansion because the game just keeps getting genuinely better, more interesting, and more fun to play with every patch. I have a bit of a soft spot for 2.1 and all what with yelling about tanking dragons in the middle and the first BCoB but I don't really want to go back to the QoL or comparative lack of content in that era, either. Plus it isn't like you never get to see old content anyway, and this game has always been absolutely better for the fact that content is never truly obsolete. And if you don't dance along to Lakshmi you're a soulless monster  edit: also Stormblood features not one but 2 women villains that could absolutely step on me any time no questions asked dont @ me
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Boten Anna posted:Heavensward was sad and depressing and everyone did dumb poo poo and died and was entirely too based on Game of Thrones, which sucks rear end and is made by an rear end in a top hat. I liked it overall but I mean the big plot payoff in the end is that they reinvent the worst government ever devised that isnt (outright) fascism whoo yay Until your edit, I wanted to agree with this entire post 
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I'm kind of confused about the Ishgard thing because they seem a lot closer to a democracy than any of the other three city-states. Other than that I can certainly agree that Stormblood gives us a much clearer idea of what people actually went through and live through than Heavensward. Also have you considered fully automated luxury Sharlayan communism?
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Yeah, isn't Limsa basically a dictatorship where Merlwyb will cap you for going against her?
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Artless Meat posted:Yeah, isn't Limsa basically a dictatorship where Merlwyb will cap you for going against her? Ul'dah is in principle a monarchy but is in practice an oligarchy. I'm not sure what you'd classify Gridania as. Ala Mhigo seems to be a morass at the moment but was previously a monarchy which fell in large part due to a really bad monarch. The Sharlayan outpost in Dravania was obviously 100% a creature of Sharlayan considering they all packed up and left. I mean, this is a fantasy story in a video game - in the fantasy genre, yet - so you can see things like Hien accepting the flaws in pre-Yotsuyu Doma and resolving to act more justly as sort of a dramatic summary of what would be a greater political movement. But post-HW Ishgard seems like it has more political freedom than anywhere else we've been to, save the pirate confederacy.
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I too don't get the Ishgard thing but that's probably because in my 4x experience I've always had way more success with a Republic system than a Democratic one.Artless Meat posted:Yeah, isn't Limsa basically a dictatorship where Merlwyb will cap you for going against her? Pirates being Pirates, of course some of them are going to be sore losers and, Pirates being Pirates, anyone who goes against the Admiral (which can be read as 'Captain of Limsa Lominsa') is a mutineer and mutineers will be dealt with promptly. Nessus posted:I'm not sure what you'd classify Gridania as. You can classify it as a Theocracy like pre-HW Ishgard only in Gridania's case, the objects of appeasement/worship have had an active role in governance.
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Plutocracy, except they're rich in spirit.
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vOv posted:while we're at it I with BLM had more actually good casting animations. Their oGCDs are good (especially Triplecast) but the actual GCD animation just doesn't do it for me. SCH/SMN's feels way more dynamic. I agree. I look like my staff turned into a snake and I'm trying to keep it from biting me (F4/Flare).
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Lakshmi has some of the worst primal music and I don't understand why people like it so much.
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Verranicus posted:Lakshmi has some of the worst primal music and I don't understand why people like it so much. Because people have good taste and you don't.
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Verranicus posted:Lakshmi has some of the worst primal music and I don't understand why people like it so much.
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Verranicus posted:Lakshmi has some of the worst primal music and I don't understand why people like it so much. Really? I think that song is an absolute blast.
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Lakshmi's better than Ravana. Waltzes are stupid and slow and boring and the music syncing is getting more and more outdated as they keep doing it and doing it better.
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Vargatron posted:Eureka is really bad and I don't like it. Allow me to elaborate a bit now that I've stopped being Mad About Video Games. I think the presentation of Eureka is what upset me more than the actual content. It would have been better if the game had explained the zone a bit better other than just dropping you off at the dock and telling you "go". I'm probably a very dumb gamer but I looked at the elemental wheel and had to ask what the hell it was for. The game probably explained it to me but it got buried in the whole "wtf" aspect of me walking out and taking at least 45-60 seconds killing an on level mob solo. That's even with popping Inner Release and spamming Fell Cleave. So if the zone was presented as "group up with friends to collect seals from monsters for equipment upgrades", then it would have been easier for me to enjoy it initially. Trying to solo the area is awful. I've been told that drop rates go up once you hit around level 7 or so, which is fine, but exp gains are so minimal that you really have to just work to get on a NM train ASAP (but you're on foot for a while, so lol). Basically, I'll do the zone after I've done all the other DRs and then just watch Youtube while I mash overpower ad nauseum.
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The whole point of Eureka was to not hand-hold the player through it, to make them discover how it works on their own, so you thoroughly missed it.
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The whole point of Eureka is to collect the saddest of brains in one place for study, without having to spend $10 on some kind of account to watch them.
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