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Rap Game Goku
Apr 2, 2008

Word to your moms, I came to drop spirit bombs


Zigmidge posted:

Yeah we weren't talking about those things at all. Bad things exist and you gotta deal with it but rgb gets in nobody's way and this thread had a weird crisis about lights.

A lot of nerds do since its becoming the "in" thing to do. Personally, I like being able to match my lights to the holiday; pink for valentines, green for St. patrick's etc...

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Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH
All computers should look like old Cobalt servers. :colbert:

borkencode
Nov 10, 2004
Thinking Machines blinkenlights or bust.

redeyes
Sep 14, 2002

by Fluffdaddy

quote:

Yes, we get it, current fashions don't align with your sense of aesthetics.

Its more like I don't have aesthetics for things like a drill or a hammer. I think of my computer like a tool not a piece of art. I get people do. I am not a modern person.

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

redeyes posted:

Its more like I don't have aesthetics for things like a drill or a hammer. I think of my computer like a tool not a piece of art. I get people do. I am not a modern person.

People have been decorating stuff like hammers and drills since they have existed, it has nothing to do with "modern people". If you didn't actually have a sense of aesthetics about these things you would not care one way or another, you would be completely apathetic and we would not be having this conversation. Instead you very obviously do care about how these things look, your aesthetic when it comes to these things skews towards the utilitarian, but that too is an aesthetic, no different than chromed metal, blinking lights or minimalist black boxes.

Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
ASK ME ABOUT HOW HUMAN LIVES THAT MADE VIDEO GAME CONTROLLERS ARE WORTH MORE
Lipstick Apathy
I don't care about RGB but I have my PC in my bedroom so I did have to put gaffer tape over like 10 different "always on" LEDs for the Ethernet port, cable modem etc. for when I sleep. No big deal though.

Shrimp or Shrimps
Feb 14, 2012


Flashing ethernet leds for activity is the worst idea ever, used blue tack.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


redeyes posted:

Its common for modern people for sure.. you know people that are superficial. People that are focused on work and getting tasks done will not care generally... or people on a budget. For me as long as I am not paying extra, the bling lights and glass panels are whatever, take or leave it kind of thing. I could care less what people think of my rig because all it does it get poo poo done.

I find it funny when people buy inferior products because of the light show. Probably more common with cases / keyboards.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 09:38 on Mar 30, 2018

Guigui
Jan 19, 2010
Winner of January '10 Lux Aeterna "Best 2010 Poster" Award
Wondering if this would be the right place to ask...

We have a sapphire RX-480 (well, pending RMA as it is busted right now) - and would like to look into a 1080p 144hz freesynch monitor that is either VA or IPS...

Trouble is, I can't seem to find many of those. Most of the freesynch IPS monitors are now 1440p. We'd like to try a different monitor type that isn't TN.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
look at refurbs or on ebay, most of what you want is going to be 3 years old or more

if you want 1080p 144hz, its TN. Most anything ips will be lower than 144hz or much higher res

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01F9UC20Q/?tag=dislag-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01A0ZRR50/?tag=dislag-20

do you have an actual need for ips or you just want it because its better. It will have worse display lag if you play anything where that matters. IPS and high refresh dont really go together

Fauxtool fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Mar 30, 2018

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound
I have an RX480 GB I bought when it first came out, and a freesync 2560 x 1440 monitor.

Am I correct in thinking that there's currently no way to upgrade further that doesn't involve spending northwards of $500?

Guigui
Jan 19, 2010
Winner of January '10 Lux Aeterna "Best 2010 Poster" Award
Yeah we'd like to try something that isn't TN; that being said, my current monitor (an LG w2252tg) supposedly has an 8ms response time, so I'd be curious to see how that compares to, say, a vertical-alignment monitor, or an IPS one...

The only one I think that comes close, might be this one from Viewsonic...

https://www.viewsonic.com/us/monitors/shop/vx2758-c-mh.html

It's an mva panel though - not TN from what the specs state... anyone have experience with MVA monitors?

sauer kraut
Oct 2, 2004

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

I have an RX480 GB I bought when it first came out, and a freesync 2560 x 1440 monitor.

Am I correct in thinking that there's currently no way to upgrade further that doesn't involve spending northwards of $500?

Yeah that's not happening unless Vega56 crashes to <400$ from 750+ now.
If you prefer to keep FreeSync, your best bet would be blind pre-ordering AMDs next gen the second it shows up in shops.
Maybe a Vega shrink late this year, or Navi late next year.

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

Guigui posted:

It's an mva panel though - not TN from what the specs state... anyone have experience with MVA monitors?

VA monitors can get really bad ghosting, easily much worse than what you see on IPS ones, so you probably want IPS if you're looking at 144hz and don't want TN.

And really, at prices they charge for 144hz screens, IPS is probably the only sane choice in tyool 2018 tbh.

jonathan
Jul 3, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
What the gently caress is this nonsense about using it for work so it shouldn't have LED.



This is my $500,000 work vehicle accented with LED. It pulls in over $50,000 per month.

RUNTELLDAT

Edit: seriously though I didn't know it even had sex lights until maybe 6 months after taking it. I found a secret switch and whoosh! Blue light.

jonathan fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Mar 30, 2018

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH
My kingdom for affordable (relative to 1440 anyway) 4K 60hz VRR monitors. I don't care about TN vs whatever, just gimme cheap.

Khorne
May 1, 2002

jonathan posted:

This is my $500,000 work vehicle accented with LED. It pulls in over $50,000 per month.
I bet it could make a few thousand per month extra if you rented it out as a porno set on the side. That's the only place I've seen things like that with blue LEDs.

Truga posted:

And really, at prices they charge for 144hz screens, IPS is probably the only sane choice in tyool 2018 tbh.
1080p 144Hz TNs aren't that badly priced as long as you don't go gsync and probably don't bother going freesync. Especially if you're willing to go used.

The Asus VGWHATEVER monitors will last ages and are good as long as you don't want lightboost on (older ULMB equivalent).

Khorne fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Mar 30, 2018

AARP LARPer
Feb 19, 2005

THE DARK SIDE OF SCIENCE BREEDS A WEAPON OF WAR

Buglord

jonathan posted:

What the gently caress is this nonsense about using it for work so it shouldn't have LED.



This is my $500,000 work vehicle accented with LED. It pulls in over $50,000 per month.

I have no idea what this is, but it looks badass.

EmpyreanFlux
Mar 1, 2013

The AUDACITY! The IMPUDENCE! The unabated NERVE!
So it appears that ASRock is working with Colorful as an OEM for their first run?

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/asrock-phantom-graphics-cards-seem-to-be-colorful-products.html

Paul MaudDib
May 3, 2006

TEAM NVIDIA:
FORUM POLICE

FaustianQ posted:

So it appears that ASRock is working with Colorful as an OEM for their first run?

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/asrock-phantom-graphics-cards-seem-to-be-colorful-products.html



They're OEM'ing from Chaintech, which is the same company Colorful OEMs from.

EmpyreanFlux
Mar 1, 2013

The AUDACITY! The IMPUDENCE! The unabated NERVE!

Paul MaudDib posted:

They're OEM'ing from Chaintech, which is the same company Colorful OEMs from.

Thanks my brain flipped that around for some reason.

ItBurns
Jul 24, 2007

jonathan posted:

What the gently caress is this nonsense about using it for work so it shouldn't have LED.



This is my $500,000 work vehicle accented with LED. It pulls in over $50,000 per month.

RUNTELLDAT

Edit: seriously though I didn't know it even had sex lights until maybe 6 months after taking it. I found a secret switch and whoosh! Blue light.

The Hunt For RGB October

PerrineClostermann
Dec 15, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

ItBurns posted:

The Hunt For RGB October

Just... One blink, and one blink only.

jonathan
Jul 3, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Dadbod Apocalypse posted:

I have no idea what this is, but it looks badass.

This is a hydraulic operated fluid pump under the belly of a hazmat tanker. That pump is mechanically the same as the big blowers sticking out the hoods of drag cars.

ConanTheLibrarian
Aug 13, 2004


dis buch is late
Fallen Rib

jonathan posted:

This is a hydraulic operated fluid pump under the belly of a hazmat tanker. That pump is mechanically the same as the big blowers sticking out the hoods of drag cars.

Disappointed this sentence didn't end with "on nvidia reference cards".

Ataxerxes
Dec 2, 2011

What is a soldier but a miserable pile of eaten cats and strange language?
So I am thinking of upgrading my gpu to get some more performance out of my system. I also sometimes get situations where the screen freezes, colors fo wonky and I need to reboot and I'm thinking my preset gpu might be dying. I have a geforce 750ti right now and could get a 1050ti for a reasonable price (I live in Finland so the selection is not as good as in the States), how much of an impact would it have on performance? I have 8gb of memory, Samsung SSD and an i7-3770k processor. I cannot afford to replace everything right now.

craig588
Nov 19, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
It'll be a bit better than twice as fast and use similar amounts of power. If you can get one for close to MSRP it's a reasonable upgrade. Nvidia will launch the sub 1000 dollar cards this summer and the sub 200 dollar ones will probably be around winter.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


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Morbid Hound

sauer kraut posted:

Yeah that's not happening unless Vega56 crashes to <400$ from 750+ now.
If you prefer to keep FreeSync, your best bet would be blind pre-ordering AMDs next gen the second it shows up in shops.
Maybe a Vega shrink late this year, or Navi late next year.

Would buying a second 480 or a 580 be worthwhile at all?

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
they'll cost like $500 right now, probably.

e: and most modern games don't play well with multigpu at all, unfortunately.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

Truga posted:



e: and most modern games don't play well with multigpu at all, unfortunately.

Yeah, that was my fear.

It's not worth dropping $400-500 for a new card just to make the one high-graphics game I play this year look GREAT, but it's also annoying that I can't crank the settings up on that one game. (bitcoin mining etc. is not something I'm interested in -- I live in an area with one of the highest electricity costs in the nation right now).

sauer kraut
Oct 2, 2004
Hopefully serious rumors coming in over the past 24 hours.
Nvidia recently taped out their new gaming card on TSMC's 12FFN node (so 5 months from now at the earliest), and some redditor knows a retailer in India who let slip his company expects the new line around September.

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
✔️✔️✔️✔️

Truga posted:

they'll cost like $500 right now, probably.

e: and most modern games don't play well with multigpu at all, unfortunately.

That's why we are pushing the multi GPU burden with DX12 to the game devs who already can't optimize for poo poo on a single one. It will be great!

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
lmao

Sad, really. I used to be a big proponent of multigpu solutions for high resolution screens, because at first it was the only way to get high resolutions at high settings working playably at all, and later buying 2 midrange gpus was about as expensive as a single expensive one, but you got decent fps at high resolutions. this combined with:
1) crossfire mostly just worked for me in most games I needed it to
2) games in which it didn't were either old poo poo or indie games that run on potatoes anyway, where a single gpu is fine
meant I had basically 0 problems with it. Maybe I was just very lucky in my choice of games and cards, anecdotes and all, but it seemed to worked great.

These days, many modern shader tricks don't work with multigpu at all, so it's all trash. The best you can get is that nvidia SLI "AA on second gpu" thing, and that's about it.

Zedsdeadbaby
Jun 14, 2008

You have been called out, in the ways of old.
What is it with RGB on hardware. It's the stupidest loving thing in the world. They must think we are like children. RGB lights on keyboards. RGB lights on cases. RGB lights on hardware that's enclosed in a box and you never look at it. It's like being in a nursery. I think it's childish and juvenile as gently caress.

Maybe some cases will come with some tinny baby cot tunes playing in the background since people are apparently so easily drawn to such things

Zedsdeadbaby fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Mar 30, 2018

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Huh, never thought of it that way. Thank you.

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

I have an RX480 GB I bought when it first came out, and a freesync 2560 x 1440 monitor.

Am I correct in thinking that there's currently no way to upgrade further that doesn't involve spending northwards of $500?

Yeah I'm in the same boat except with a 1080p monitor. I'll be waiting a while for my next GPU I think.

headcase
Sep 28, 2001

Zedsdeadbaby posted:

What is it with RGB on hardware. It's the stupidest loving thing in the world. They must think we are like children. RGB lights on keyboards. RGB lights on cases. RGB lights on hardware that's enclosed in a box and you never look at it. It's like being in a nursery. I think it's childish and juvenile as gently caress.

Maybe some cases will come with some tinny baby cot tunes playing in the background since people are apparently so easily drawn to such things

RGB can be overused as you say, or it can be used to make your workspace look cohesive in an adult way. Don't turn on all the lights. The reason they are RGB is so that you can have options. I'm sure companies got complains that the power indicator was one color, but their numlock indicator was a different color. The answer? just give RGB.

My mouse has an RBG accent. It's nice because I can find it in the dark and it tastefully matches my keycaps. Backlit keys can be functional in the same way. If some people want to see the hard work they put into a custom watercooling system, I don't see that as childish either.

Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004


Is anyone here running a 1440p g-sync monitor with a 970? My brother is looking for an upgrade to his 970 and 1080p monitor, but can't afford to do both at the same time.

headcase
Sep 28, 2001

Enos Cabell posted:

Is anyone here running a 1440p g-sync monitor with a 970? My brother is looking for an upgrade to his 970 and 1080p monitor, but can't afford to do both at the same time.

That is what I'm running. It's fine. I get 140-190 FPS in Overwatch on low settings.

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Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
Mile High Club

Zedsdeadbaby posted:

What is it with RGB on hardware. It's the stupidest loving thing in the world. They must think we are like children. RGB lights on keyboards. RGB lights on cases. RGB lights on hardware that's enclosed in a box and you never look at it. It's like being in a nursery. I think it's childish and juvenile as gently caress.

Maybe some cases will come with some tinny baby cot tunes playing in the background since people are apparently so easily drawn to such things

I don't personally see the aesthetic appeal, therefore it is literally hitler!

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