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Specifically:Lid posted:Allison Mack going to spend decades in jail EDIT: Artvoice seems to be down right now, but search google for Allison Mack and you'll find the results. Also, expect to see the unhealed brand they made on a young woman which has been given as evidence. EDIT 2: Back up again. They're at the top of the google results so are probably being bombarded with people all going, "What the gently caress" too. Megillah Gorilla fucked around with this message at 05:30 on Mar 28, 2018 |
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The human minds ability to construct its own unique contortions of logic is impressive. People wishing prison rape on this guy, while decrying his abuses. Take a look at the people involved. The people who knew, who always know, who always help facilitate this kind of thing whether its in school, at work, at church, in prison, or anywhere its committed. Good middle class people: police, judges, lawyers, soldiers, teachers, coaches, executives, middle management, administrators, finance industry employees, sales people, priests, etc. Criminal bad people: Violent psychopaths, rapists, murderers, thieves, liars, pedophiles, etc. Its a child's fantasy that these are two mutually exclusive groups, which is why children are easy to prey on. The really dangerous ones are safely locked away where we can vicariously fantasize about totally bad rear end and righteous state sanctioned rape. Most adults are dangerous predators restrained by opportunity and reputation. Part of growing up is learning to become a productive member of society that can be counted on to be a team player who can look the other way and capitalize on the opportunity for the sake of career advancement and convenience.
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# ? Mar 28, 2018 05:34 |
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Gorilla Salad posted:How would you not delete that? It's possible that he either forgot he had it or figured he wouldn't get caught. If memory serves the entire board of one of the organizations Nassar was involved in already resigned so I'm going to guess the rot goes pretty deep. I'm expecting more arrests over the next few months myself.
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# ? Mar 28, 2018 05:34 |
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The Nobel Prize for Excellence In Somehow Making Atrocities Even Worse goes to: https://twitter.com/charlesornstein/status/979096695484092421
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Willie Tomg posted:The Nobel Prize for Excellence In Somehow Making Atrocities Even Worse goes to: No deals, just information, just information!
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# ? Mar 29, 2018 00:41 |
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Well you know what we say around these parts; always more, always worse.
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# ? Mar 29, 2018 01:47 |
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Well you know what we say around these parts; always more, always worse. Or in sports argument stadium: "this is really disrupting my March madness bracket"
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Willie Tomg posted:The Nobel Prize for Excellence In Somehow Making Atrocities Even Worse goes to: this is oblivious (or malicious) bureaucracy.txt, the only thing that matters is efficiently sweeping things under the rug
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# ? Mar 29, 2018 06:39 |
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Sneakster posted:...
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# ? Mar 29, 2018 16:15 |
Lol that's like all the religious worshippers who ask atheists "So what exactly stops you from murdering and sinning?"
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# ? Mar 29, 2018 16:23 |
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suck my woke dick posted:this is oblivious (or malicious) bureaucracy.txt, the only thing that matters is efficiently sweeping things under the rug It's more the former, if you read the memos the social media monitoring amounted to "here is the latest set of popular tweets and news exposing us as corrupt pedophile enablers"
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# ? Mar 29, 2018 16:50 |
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Lol the Karolyis are claiming that they weren’t aware of anything. Who on Earth believes that?
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# ? Mar 29, 2018 16:52 |
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What? There's more pedophiles in church than prison. Its not like child brides is some kind of historically unusual thing. Every loving time this happens, who could have imagined, a teacher, a priest, a coach, a cop, a local upstanding member of the good people of society happened to be loving kids, and there happened to be a bureaucracy looking the other way and covering it up as long as possible. We treat it as a normal act in prison and an outrageous act in wider society because of course nobody knew, even the people looking the other way. Obviously, you will personally never have your job or social standing put you in a position where looking the other way makes your life go more smoothly. You're an upstanding moral person and you only associate with the good people of society, not any of the people in positions of power and trust that do this kind of thing, nobody in this forum would ever advocate for anything unseemly of course. Only the BAD PEOPLE do this kind of thing, and only the BAD PEOPLE facilitate it. You're the GOOD PEOPLE, and the people you associate with are also of the same caliber of GOOD PEOPLE. Its very easy to have a conscience on the internet, in real life you shut your mouth and get along, or you risk any degree of consequence from arrest/police harassment to social alienation that winds up in you posting here because pointing out blatant racism and sexual assault sucks the fun out of the room. SKULL.GIF posted:Lol that's like all the religious worshippers who ask atheists "So what exactly stops you from murdering and sinning?" That unlike professionals, I wouldn't come home to a parade for it.
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cis autodrag posted:Or in sports argument stadium: "this is really disrupting my March madness bracket" That's not actually what's going on, idiot.
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AsInHowe posted:That's not actually what's going on, idiot. Your "shoot down any solution that might force us to admit sports have problems" routine ain't gonna fly over here bud. You jump at me with your little baby insults anytime I suggest that there are deeper structural issues at play than a couple bad apples in one college. You are deeply invested in college sports continuing to happen regardless of body count. If you want to make a structured argument instead of name calling be my guest. You've proven incapable so far.
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cis autodrag posted:Your "shoot down any solution that might force us to admit sports have problems" routine ain't gonna fly over here bud. You jump at me with your little baby insults anytime I suggest that there are deeper structural issues at play than a couple bad apples in one college. You are deeply invested in college sports continuing to happen regardless of body count. Again, not the discussion going on over there, nor here. Quit misrepresenting things to cause drama and fighting.
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exploded mummy posted:It's more the former, if you read the memos the social media monitoring amounted to "here is the latest set of popular tweets and news exposing us as corrupt pedophile enablers" It seems as if Michigan State's strategy was to PR their way out of the problem, but the many days of victim statements destroyed that strategy.
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AsInHowe posted:Again, not the discussion going on over there, nor here. Quit misrepresenting things to cause drama and fighting. If I'm so wrong, enlighten me instead of calling me an idiot. Because you can filter the SAS thread to your posts and find plenty of you attacking me and nothing remotely looking like an argument. I'm not the one trying to stir up drama. You followed me here. Nothing in the post you quoted even implies I was talking about you, that's all in your head.
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# ? Mar 30, 2018 01:29 |
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importing drama from other forums, especially in a thread about a soul-deadening child abuse scandal, is grounds for banning.
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# ? Mar 30, 2018 01:56 |
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To bring things back on topic, it was apparently a very open secret that the dean of the college at MSU was a stunningly inappropriate creep.quote:
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/2018/03/29/students-msu-michigan-state-william-strampel-groped-pornography-assault-dean/469322002/
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# ? Mar 30, 2018 02:04 |
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as it turns out, we should in fact burn down the institutions
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# ? Mar 30, 2018 02:15 |
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Out of all of that, this stands out to me for some weird reason A Rapist posted:it was good when women were drunk, because then it was easy to have sex with them.” It makes him sound almost developmentally stunted it's such a juvenile and monstrous thought. He's a sociopath with the moral decision making process if a horned up 15-year-old. There's no way someone who says something like they doesn't throw off warning signs regardless of topic. That this guy was in charge of something means someone interviewed him and ignored the warnings signs anyway. Or he started low on the totem pole and was promoted in spite of his issues.
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stone cold posted:as it turns out, we should in fact burn down the institutions Also this
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stone cold posted:as it turns out, we should in fact burn down the institutions It keeps circling back to this, and it seems more right each time.
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tetrapyloctomy posted:It keeps circling back to this, and it seems more right each time. Yeah I was certain it was necessary like five disgusting revelations ago, now I’m doubleplussure. In fact, just torch the entire loving NCAA while we’re at it. Poison trees bear only poisoned fruit.
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PT6A posted:Yeah I was certain it was necessary like five disgusting revelations ago, now I’m doubleplussure. yes, the ncaa is an institution
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PT6A posted:Yeah I was certain it was necessary like five disgusting revelations ago, now I’m doubleplussure. I mean if you burn down the universities that make it up the NCAA will necessarily also be burned down, if you do it after you're just burning ashes. Though that would be safer.
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stone cold posted:yes, the ncaa is an institution True, I thought you just meant the universities and programs directly involved (MSU, USA Gymnastics, etc.) but you are correct it should go much further.
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Feinne posted:I mean if you burn down the universities that make it up the NCAA will necessarily also be burned down, if you do it after you're just burning ashes. Wouldn’t that be, in essence, destruction of every American university? I’m not saying no, but we better have a good plan to salvage the decent parts before pulling the trigger.
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cis autodrag posted:It makes him sound almost developmentally stunted it's such a juvenile and monstrous thought. He's a sociopath with the moral decision making process if a horned up 15-year-old. There's no way someone who says something like they doesn't throw off warning signs regardless of topic. That this guy was in charge of something means someone interviewed him and ignored the warnings signs anyway. Or he started low on the totem pole and was promoted in spite of his issues. My guess is that it's more likely that he's just a sociopath and/or a narcissist. From what I've been reading that type of personality will do anything to get ahead so they tend to stand out. They're very, very good at figuring out what people want and will give whoever controls the promotions exactly that while downplaying whatever awful stuff they get up to or finding ways to hide it. That personality cluster is superficially charming and deviouisly manipulative so it's more likely he managed to convince the victims it was their own fault or created themselves such a spectacular veneer of respectability that nobody believes their victims. In an interview I'm going to guess he didn't say that sort of thing and didn't throw up any red flags. The worst predators are generally social chameleons that are incredibly good at getting away with poo poo. Notice that when somebody like Nassar goes down there's a lot of "but he seemed so niiiiiiiiiice!!!!" going around. Same thing here, really; a guy like that will manage to arrange it so that he looks like a pillar of the organization who just cares so much about others. Then it turns out he's a loving creep.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Notice that when somebody like Nassar goes down there's a lot of "but he seemed so niiiiiiiiiice!!!!" going around. Same thing here, really; a guy like that will manage to arrange it so that he looks like a pillar of the organization who just cares so much about others. Then it turns out he's a loving creep. Sneakster posted:Most adults are dangerous predators restrained by opportunity and reputation. Part of growing up is learning to become a productive member of society that can be counted on to be a team player who can look the other way and capitalize on the opportunity for the sake of career advancement and convenience.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Notice that when somebody like Nassar goes down there's a lot of "but he seemed so niiiiiiiiiice!!!!" going around. Same thing here, really; a guy like that will manage to arrange it so that he looks like a pillar of the organization who just cares so much about others. Then it turns out he's a loving creep.
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PT6A posted:Wouldn’t that be, in essence, destruction of every American university? I’m not saying no, but we better have a good plan to salvage the decent parts before pulling the trigger. The NCAA only cares about one thing: money. That's it. It sets "academic standards" but if you know what you're doing, you can offer bogus classes to the players, and as long as you offer them to other students, you're in the clear as North Carolina found out. Mind you, they look the other way when poo poo like this happens, but guess what, it doesn't involve money so they don't care.
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iospace posted:The NCAA only cares about one thing: money. That's it. It sets "academic standards" but if you know what you're doing, you can offer bogus classes to the players, and as long as you offer them to other students, you're in the clear as North Carolina found out. I agree, the NCAA can and should be destroyed. But destroying the universities that make it up? That’s pretty much every university. Destroy the sports programs to the ground and salt the earth, sure, and destroy the universities that did particularly heinous things, like Penn State and MSU, but I think destroying every university with a sports program, pragmatically speaking, is simply unworkable. Unless I’m misunderstanding what’s being said?
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PT6A posted:Wouldn’t that be, in essence, destruction of every American university? I’m not saying no, but we better have a good plan to salvage the decent parts before pulling the trigger. Lots of universities aren't involved in NCAA division 1, and D3 stuff isn't anywhere near as corrupting, though there surely are abuses anyway.
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OddObserver posted:Lots of universities aren't involved in NCAA division 1, and D3 stuff isn't anywhere near as corrupting, though there surely are abuses anyway. There'd be abuses even if there were no money at all involved, because winning is its own reward.
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We can pretend its not a sports culture problem, and sure, maybe its not sports in and of themselves, but: if you observe how athletic kids interact with adults, and squint your eyes, you can get a pretty good feel for the sexual tension. That applies to everywhere from barely legal boys on the local wrestling team in your town, to this so-very-obvious creepy as gently caress caricature of a pedophile who happened to sharing the kiddy diddling spank material with administrators who also could't have imagined what kind of guy Droopy Dog is. I've never seen sexual tension in a math class, its a den of ugly ugly people or uptight nerds. There rarely seems to be an appropriate occasion to normalize shoulder rubs to help people relax. PT6A posted:Unless I'm misunderstanding what's being said? Abolish organized sports. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Sneakster posted:We can pretend its not a sports culture problem, and sure, maybe its not sports in and of themselves, but: if you observe how athletic kids interact with adults, and squint your eyes, you can get a pretty good feel for the sexual tension. That applies to everywhere from barely legal boys on the local wrestling team in your town, to this so-very-obvious creepy as gently caress caricature of a pedophile who happened to sharing the kiddy diddling spank material with administrators who also could't have imagined what kind of guy Droopy Dog is. you are really goddamn weird
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botany posted:you are really goddamn weird
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tetrapyloctomy posted:I can't imagine someone just decides one day, "I think I'll drug a patient and jerk off on her!" Uh I mean yeah it kinda does have to start at some point
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