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unfortunately most Calvinists think JD Hall is crazy, so. no dice. pulpit and pen and reforming america ministries aaand...the other one. I think it's reformation media. all have a small contingent of incredibly vocal hyper-Calvinist followers that are really active in Calvinist FB groups. if you spot a hyper-Calvinist ask them if you must intellectually assent to the doctrines of grace in order to be saved. this begins the Calvinist battle. tag somebody else in on the comment thread and agree with the person who knows the most about obscure dutch theologians (NOT Kuyper, this is a trap) and congrats you've just participated in some kind of weird reformed mating ritual that happens constantly.
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HEY GUNS posted:thanks a lot for the 30 years war motherfuckers I'm still mad France supported the evangelical union.
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Ceciltron posted:I'm still mad France supported the evangelical union.
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HEY GUNS posted:that was politics, it wasn't personal. would you rather they had supported hapsburgs? Whichever that would lead to the defeat of the protestants. I play EUIV for a reason.
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HEY GUNS posted:thanks a lot for the 30 years war motherfuckers dude there was seriously a post yesterday about how the inquisition might decide to kill pope francis for heresy. a lot of these people are real, real dumb and I don't think they know what the 30yw even was
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Mar 31, 2018 03:17
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The Phlegmatist posted:a lot of these people are real, real dumb
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Ceciltron posted:Whichever that would lead to the defeat of the protestants. I play EUIV for a reason. i mean no skin off my nose and i guess System Metternich would be happy, but this is going against literally the entirety of french foreign policy ever since the valois dynasty
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Big thanks to whoever suggested God of the Oppressed, this is great.James Hal Cone posted:The question of heresy must be reopened in our time, not for the purpose of witch-hunting, but for the sake of the Church's life. We need to be clear about the subject to which our proclamation points and the relation of our words about that Subject to our actions in the world. Here it must be emphasized that we are not simply concerned with our theological conceptualizations of Jesus Christ, although they are included. Theological concepts have meaning only as they are translated into theological praxis, that is, the Church living in the world on the basis of what it proclaims. This means that theology and ethics, though not identical, are closely interrelated: the mission of the Church is defined by its proclamation, and the proclamation is authenticated by the mission. For the sake of the mission of the Church in the world, we must continually ask, What actions deny the Truth disclosed in Jesus Christ? Where should the line be drawn? Can the Church of Jesus Christ be racist and Christian at the same time? Can the Church of Jesus Christ be politically, socially, and economically identified with the structures of oppression and also be a servant of Christ? Can the Church of Jesus Christ fail to make the liberation of the poor the center of its message and work, and still remain faithful to its Lord?
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The Phlegmatist posted:unfortunately most Calvinists think JD Hall is crazy, so. no dice. pulpit and pen and reforming america ministries aaand...the other one. I think it's reformation media. all have a small contingent of incredibly vocal hyper-Calvinist followers that are really active in Calvinist FB groups. I'm into some pretty obscure theologians, you probably haven't heard of them.
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shame on an IGA posted:Big thanks to whoever suggested God of the Oppressed, this is great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-NidcMz_xk&t=8s
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Despite the name, I rarely played EUIV in Europe. Majapahit is life; the spice must flow (from us). It is hard to reintroduce Hinduism into the Muslim territories of Nusantara. No biggie, though. At +1 Tolerance to Heathens, the Dharma abides.Senju Kannon posted:thanks for posting that link, just applied to a position at catholic relief services. here's to hoping! Good luck! Death to underemployment.
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Mar 31, 2018 03:47
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HEY GUNS posted:is it bad that i'm actually glad about this because it will discourage more calvinists from coming into the church and gradually protestantizing it, which is a thing i'm paranoid about im a little worried bc i know two people being received into the church tomorrow and one's a ex-calvinist street preacher and the other's sixteen and already flirting with sedevecantism did go to tenebrae earlier and it was really cool
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Venezuelans lack Communion wafers this Easter, so a Colombian church stepped in Truthfully, I had forgotten that Venezuela was hunger-stricken. The call to share bread together seems to apply to sacred as well as bulk bread.
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Not gonna lie, most games of EU4 I play Muscovy, although I enjoy a nice game as a French Huguenot ruler every once in a while.
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StashAugustine posted:the other's sixteen and already flirting with sedevecantism no YOU shut the gently caress up HOLY FATHER. you ruined MY life and MOM's life and the CHAIR OF ST. PETER
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The Phlegmatist posted:no YOU shut the gently caress up HOLY FATHER. you ruined MY life and MOM's life and the CHAIR OF ST. PETER "You can't tell me what to do! You're not my REAL Pope!"
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Epicurius posted:"You can't tell me what to do! You're not my REAL Pope!" If I could thumbs-up or give kudos or favorite a post I would have wordlessly signaled my amusement with this post. In unrelated news: https://twitter.com/theghissilent/status/980094067034931206 quote:the Church being more welcoming starts with you and me
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Not to take a meme too seriously, but what, exactly, is the difference between heterodoxy and heresy?
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zonohedron posted:Not to take a meme too seriously, but what, exactly, is the difference between heterodoxy and heresy? The wiki article on Heterodoxy contains this quote:heterodoxy may describe beliefs that differ from strictly orthodox views, but that fall short either of formal or of material heresy
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Mar 31, 2018 20:47
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in the liturgical world, heresy is a very specific thing that's only really applied to people in teaching positions who are teaching heterodox theology. it's basically the willful desire to teach something other than the official teaching of the church. you can't accidentally fall into heresy. in the calvinist world, heterodoxy has a couple more letters in it. who knows.
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Okay, fair, I didn't think of it as similar to the difference between "assault" and "hitting somebody"! In the context of the meme, though, it's not like they're saying that Arminians are accidentally not Calvinists. (Unless Arminianism and Calvinism are both accidents in the Aristotelian sense?)
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zonohedron posted:(Unless Arminianism and Calvinism are both accidents in the Aristotelian sense?) they're both accidents of history *lights my censer and speeds off in the popemobile* I'll try to explain what's going on a little better. This is a hyper-Calvinist meme, and hyper-Calvinists believe that you MUST believe in the five solae and five-point Calvinism (TULIP) in order to be saved. So they're making fun of other Calvinists who believe Arminians to be brothers and sisters in Christ through defending them saying they're heterodox rather than heretics -- heterodoxy is connoted to be a "softer" form of heresy than, like, actual heresy. In other words, defending them by saying they're on the right track but they got lost or bored somewhere before finding the doctrines of grace. So they might have different beliefs, but they're not, at least, going against the solae. Which hyper-Calvinists don't think actually happens. If you're part of the elect then you join a hyper-Calvinist church and then you are led to fully assent to the doctrines of grace. So they don't think kindly of Arminians or other Calvinists trying to defend them as part of the church.
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The Phlegmatist posted:hyper-Calvinists believe that you MUST believe in the five solae and five-point Calvinism (TULIP) in order to be saved.
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HEY GUNS posted:in other words, that it depends on your own efforts lol q: how do hyper-calvinists get to church on the lord's day a: they start their cars and scream JESUS TAKE THE WHEEL until they get there somehow
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lol when you have to stumble through confession in spanish because all the priests at your parish just vanish during holy week
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYvw68IneV4 merry easter (sun's down, it counts) i've been waiting weeks to post this itt so you all enjoy it
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zonohedron posted:Not to take a meme too seriously, but what, exactly, is the difference between heterodoxy and heresy? I like the idea of a chaos space marine protesting his execution: "Actually, it's heterodoxy."
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if you're a protestant and don't know what happens at easter vigil I've hacked into the vatican archives to show you this image warning: do NOT share this. we will know.
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Senju Kannon posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYvw68IneV4 Im phoneposting so I was all sitting here like "it's a .jpeg...am I missing something? " It only took about five minutes for me to click.
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CountFosco posted:That image.... I have feelings inside me right now and I don't know what kind of feelings they are. What a mysterious Easter we are having this year.
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The Phlegmatist posted:if you're a protestant and don't know what happens at easter vigil I've hacked into the vatican archives to show you this image tag yourself i'm the giant R.O.B. in the background
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Senju Kannon posted:tag yourself i'm the giant R.O.B. in the background I'm the surprised looking lizard in the front.
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Senju Kannon posted:tag yourself i'm the giant R.O.B. in the background I'm the skirt that was not designed for tails.
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she got her titties out so really that skirt is the least of her problems honestly i don't know why but the thing that bothers me the most isn't the inconsistency of dress (some fully clothed, some only half clothed, others fully nude) it's that the dude in the trench coat with the cross has no neck some no neck fox in the church who shaved his fur into a cross just hanging out, doing no neck things
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easter vigil liveposting, AMA really bad attendance rate this year  got a "woo! yeah!" during the exsultet thoughlector keeps mispronouncing creeping things as creepy things
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