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Zero VGS posted:You should get that Bitcoin heatstroke checked out... I'm open to this view because its self serving for me on the implication mining will return to profitability so I hope youre right.
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:And yet difficulty is not going down at all, in fact still expected to increase... wtf? Yeah mining was super unprofitable in the months where bitcoin had crashed to like $200 but the hash rate never decreased. At the time it was theorized that the Chinese miners were just trying to evade currency controls, so in that context they can mine at a loss because profits were never the point
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Sorry, I got the GPU list wrong - it was 14 total, 8x 1060 and 6x rx580. They couldn't source the 1070s they wanted and bought all of those instead because they were tired of waiting. They couldn't have paid 10k (I hope), but still in the thousands.
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8x 1060s, the card most people in this thread have been like "nah not worth the hassle for <$1/day" lol
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Which is still an extra $200 / month in power bills at 15c/KWh to the landlord. I'm sure they will never notice that. ($200 can last me 5 months in electricity despite using the air conditioning everyday at 17c/KWh) :brag:
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Somebody should make a cryptocoin that can only be mined on soundcard DSP chips. I want to see soundblaster arrays before history turns the page on this poo poo.
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QuarkJets posted:8x 1060s, the card most people in this thread have been like "nah not worth the hassle for <$1/day" also the card which is going to have the biggest fall in resell value when next gen cards come out if they paid more than about $300 per card for that setup they're gonna lose their shirts, new 1060s are staying in stock at $350 and trending downwards.
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Picked up a 1070 for $350 locally. Not an incredible deal but I can live with that
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Lube banjo posted:Picked up a 1070 for $350 locally. Not an incredible deal but I can live with that Cheaper than what I paid two years ago ($430) so doing better than I did.
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The used 1070 I bought here in June was $325, so not bad given all that happened in the interim.
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QuarkJets posted:8x 1060s, the card most people in this thread have been like "nah not worth the hassle for <$1/day" https://www.nicehash.com/profitabil...=0.725;a27=1.32 Lol
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8x of those so $4/day for the whole setup, not counting the AMD cards. Let's say you get a real bargain and get the 1060s for $300 each. $2400 for the cards, making $4/day, so 600 days just to break even if you don't pay electricity and if the BTC price remains stable and if the landlord doesn't come to complain about the spike in electricity costs QuarkJets fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Mar 31, 2018 |
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But difficulty goes up every month so even if everything stays the same, you earn 1-18% less every time difficulty rises...
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wrong thread
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6687.1 USD Why are u guys not hodling
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Bloody Antlers posted:Somebody should make a cryptocoin that can only be mined on soundcard DSP chips. I want to see soundblaster arrays before history turns the page on this poo poo. OR something that uses the processor on hardware RAID cards. So you can RAID your RAID card..... 
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Palladium posted:6687.1 USD BUY THE CRASH I MEAN DIP DIP
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Correction!
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put your funds into my dip when I dip you dip we dip
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Paul MaudDib posted:put your funds into my dip 
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No double dipping. That's just gross yo.
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PerrineClostermann posted:No double dipping. That's just gross yo. But what if EVERYONE dips This is the power of descentralization
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Saw a used 1070Ti locally for $500. Not low enough under retail for me to take a gamble for abused/no-warranty hardware. Needs to hit $300 for that.
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Uhh if it was an Asus, EVGA, Gigabyte, or MSI you were wrong about that "no warranty" thing.
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Craptacular! posted:Uhh if it was an Asus, EVGA, Gigabyte, or MSI you were wrong about that "no warranty" thing. "Card shows as stolen, warranty claim denied."
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Who the gently caress does that?
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Methylethylaldehyde posted:"Card shows as stolen, warranty claim denied." Seems pretty unlikely.
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Craptacular! posted:Uhh if it was an Asus, EVGA, Gigabyte, or MSI you were wrong about that "no warranty" thing. Warranty doesn't exactly cover abuse and some idiot flashing poo poo firmware on it. Maybe your risk tolerance is different but I've seen too many atrocity mining rigs.
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:Warranty doesn't exactly cover abuse and some idiot flashing poo poo firmware on it. Maybe your risk tolerance is different but I've seen too many atrocity mining rigs. The 10-series cards require signed firmware that, AFAIK, has not been cracked yet. So no shady firmware shenanigans like in ages past.
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DrDork posted:The 10-series cards require signed firmware that, AFAIK, has not been cracked yet. So no shady firmware shenanigans like in ages past. And current AMD cards, im sure most of us are aware but just in case someone is reading through this and doesn't. I'm pretty pro-used-mining-cards just based on the past but I'm a lot less happy buy a 580 with a mining bios flashed on it, for example. And for this last gen that bios was a significant difference in mining.
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Running at tighter VRAM timings won't physically affect the card. The voltage is the same and everything. As long as they flash it back, it's no different to any other card. It could be a problem if they didn't flash it back, and games aren't stable at the tighter timings, but in principle Ethereum is a pretty heavy workout and if it's stable there it should be stable anywhere. I don't see much of a problem with miner cards beyond the relatively high number of power-on hours at unknown core voltage and fan settings/temps. Like, what miner isn't going to say that they ran it nicely for just two months before they decided to sell? And frankly that's assuming they tell you at all. I mean, unless they list 10 of them at once, how do you know they're a miner? Hell, how do you know it's not a third-hand card that was mined on before they got it? At this point, unless you have a card with a known provenance (a friend who you know doesn't mine/etc) then you pretty much have to assume every card newer than GCN 1.0 could have been mined on. The cards that are least likely to have been mined on are Fermi, Kepler, and Maxwell, but really you just don't know. Treat every used card like it was potentially mined on. (Truth is, unless you can buy from a friend you'll just have to take what you can get, this is already factored into the prices of used cards, and it's truthfully not that big a deal. GCN 1.0 and 1.1 cards pulled tons of power vs today's cards and had lovely blowers that ran crazy hot, and there's a lot of cards that mined back in 2014 that are still doing fine for gamers today.) Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Apr 2, 2018 |
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Craptacular! posted:Uhh if it was an Asus, EVGA, Gigabyte, or MSI you were wrong about that "no warranty" thing. I have done dozens of RMAs with all of the above manufacturers, on cards I've all bought secondhand, including mining cards, cards with the cooler re-pasted, and flashed Bios, and never once had a problem. The warranty is bound to the serial, and those 4 companies are happy to honor it, sometimes giving a free upgrade in the process. They are not supposed to give you a hard time about it nor do they have the bandwidth/wherewithal to go Sherlock Holmes your claim, so as long as you're not being a complete dick to them it should be perfectly fine. Edit: with that said, EVGA has the smoothest process by far, then MSI, then Gigabyte, and Asus as the sloppiest.
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Crosspost from altcoin thread: I’m probably gonna be selling some of my EVGA GTX 1070 FTWs and SC2s soon (I have three of each). EBay has them between $400-450 so yeah, I’d rather avoid the EBay fee and rather a goon use them for their actual purpose rather than a shitheel miner like me. Yeah, they were mined on for a solid four to eight months or so (one card is older than the others), but they were at 70% TDP max and peaked temp at 64C @80% fan speed and still have over two years of warranty so they’re in pretty loving good shape. I’ll probably post pics of the mining setup so people can see that it wasn’t a cardboard monstrosity, but had great airflow and was actually babied for when I planned on selling them. I’ll link the SA Mart thread when I make it if any of y’all are interested.
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You don't need to post in multiple threads to gauge interest in your cards, just poo poo or get off the pot.
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Sorry  I told him to. I am a GPU card selling consultant.
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Bitmain announced their ASIC, the E3 miner, producing 180 MH/s at 800W The efficiency is actually terrible, effectively the same as a GPU in terms of hash/w (actually very slightly worse). They do note that these are "conservative" numbers but still, that's a little disappointing after all that build-up. Maybe some of the other ASIC companies have had better luck.
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Paul MaudDib posted:Bitmain announced their ASIC, the E3 miner, producing 180 MH/s at 800W The efficiency is actually terrible, effectively the same as a GPU in terms of hash/w (actually very slightly worse). They do note that these are "conservative" numbers but still, that's a little disappointing after all that build-up. Maybe some of the other ASIC companies have had better luck. 180MH is really good for 800 USD, you’d need like 6 1080Tis for that(plus the rig), so efficiency is not as big of a deal. GPU mining is ded
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