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What is YISUN?
Mother
A lie we tell ourselves to have a purpose
Bliss
A paradox with no solution
Father
A strong female protagonist
The weakest thing there is and the smallest crawling thing
Creator
Everything in this miserable and hellish existence
A solution with no paradoxes
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Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
she did fine the last time she was horribly injured and near-helpless in front of an angry god im sure everything will be all right

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Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Joe Slowboat posted:

Abaddon doesn't kill characters off without wringing use from them.

Tell that to Lucky Felecia.

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


Who What Now posted:

Tell that to Lucky Felecia.

I dunno she was pretty well wrung out by the end there

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib

Who What Now posted:

Tell that to Lucky Felecia.

Lucky Felicia was extremely useful though, without her we'd still be stuck at that door.

World Famous W
May 25, 2007

BAAAAAAAAAAAA

ThaumPenguin posted:

Kinda want to see two of Cio's papermen running off with Allison on a gurney
The gurney is just another paperman

Edit: poo poo, that doesn't work, gurneys have wheels, gently caress

ThaumPenguin
Oct 9, 2013

Tollymain posted:

she did fine the last time she was horribly injured and near-helpless in front of an angry god im sure everything will be all right

Yeah like I expect her to do something cool but part of me really loves the stretcher idea

That said, fleeing on a stretcher would probably be too similar to the airship getaway

ThaumPenguin
Oct 9, 2013

World Famous W posted:

The gurney is just another paperman

Edit: poo poo, that doesn't work, gurneys have wheels, gently caress

wait there's a difference between gurneys and stretchers

anyway I love the idea

light for the lost
Apr 1, 2018

by FactsAreUseless
charon's in the vault somewhere btw, we saw him scuttling in before everything exploded

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013
This arc was kind of lame and I'm glad it's ending.

Joe Slowboat
Nov 9, 2016

Higgledy-Piggledy Whale Statements



Who What Now posted:

Tell that to Lucky Felecia.

She had precisely one big foreshadowed story beat and by god did she deliver.
Well I guess technically she was delivered, Oskar has a hell of a throwing arm.

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

SunAndSpring posted:

This arc was kind of lame and I'm glad it's ending.

agreed. nobody got hit with the entire universe or turned into a pleasingly colored fish. distinct lack of Pree Aesma all around, C-

light for the lost
Apr 1, 2018

by FactsAreUseless

SunAndSpring posted:

This arc was kind of lame and I'm glad it's ending.
you're an idiot

Reene
Aug 26, 2005

:justpost:

SunAndSpring posted:

This arc was kind of lame and I'm glad it's ending.

:allears:

The only lame thing is that we have to wait to see more of Allison and Cio's incredibly weird and awkward relationship.

Fortunately there's some pretty cool action happening in the mean time.

Lights
Dec 9, 2007

Lights, the Peacock King, First of His Name.

Reene posted:

:allears:

The only lame thing is that we have to wait to see more of Allison and Cio's incredibly weird and awkward relationship.

Fortunately there's some pretty cool action happening in the mean time.

The only lame thing is that we all discovered this comic when it was still being made and can't just binge the whole glorious thing in one mighty marathon, really. I'd love to have the patience to let a backlog build up but I just can't not click the bookmark every Tues / Friday.

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013
I dunno, the pacing was bad, so much time was wasted and taken away from the main characters on setting up the crew for the heist and all these other setting characters like the Heretics Court and Himself that sound cool on paper but never really did much to begin with and were ultimately just exposition or excuses for Abaddon to show off new character designs, this new relationship is dumb fanservice, and now I'm just waiting for, I dunno, a dumb fight to end it all and get onto maybe a better arc.


Turn your monitor on, lmao.

ElMaligno
Dec 31, 2004

Be Gay!
Do Crime!

SunAndSpring posted:

This arc was kind of lame and I'm glad it's ending.

get the gently caress out my thread

Joe Slowboat
Nov 9, 2016

Higgledy-Piggledy Whale Statements



Uh I might go out on a limb and say "actually, the Heretic's Court and related characters, including the devil heist crew, were an engaging way of fleshing out Cio both directly and indirectly so as to set up her development as a parallel to Allison's, as they both engage in furious self-hatred and self-destructive behavior to which Mammon and sure-Ynamon serve as a counterpoint and warning, making their rather fraught relationship a key emotional dynamic going forward" but really who couldn't see that.

Digamma-F-Wau
Mar 22, 2016

It is curious and wants to accept all kinds of challenges
plus it's cool

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


i can never make out with an actual demon of my same gender so please let me at least live vicariously thru al-yis-un

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

👁️🔥👁️👁️👁️BE NOT👄AFRAID👁️👁️👁️🔥👁️

SunAndSpring posted:

this new relationship is dumb fanservice,
Why do you think that?

Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

ElMaligno posted:

get the gently caress out my thread

Contra
Aug 31, 2003
L(

PetraCore posted:

Why do you think that?

I can see where he's coming from. Considering Alison has been nothing but a dick for pretty much the entire comic, it didn't feel to me like that kiss had been earned. However that's quite literally the only sour beat for hundreds of pages of book so I'm not ready to declare the whole thing garbage just yet.

Edit: I don't agree that it's dumb fanservice though, at all.

Contra fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Apr 3, 2018

Patrick Spens
Jul 21, 2006

"Every quarterback says they've got guts, But how many have actually seen 'em?"
Pillbug
I don't know what the gently caress earned means in a context of the kiss, but Cio had been obviously crushing on Alilson since the beginning of book 2.

Joe Slowboat
Nov 9, 2016

Higgledy-Piggledy Whale Statements



I really love how there's a camp of readers who think the kiss is unearned because Cio has been nothing but a self-serving monster the entire time, and a camp that holds that it's unearned because Allison has been nothing but a thoughtless jerk the entire time.

Me, I think they're both right, and that the kiss happened because they're both being self-loathing and out of their depths while caring about the other one as much as they are capable of at the moment. I trust Abaddon to not have this be the end of the mess their relationship has been so far.

Also, in terms of 'earned' I think that the kiss and framing absolutely were 'earned' - they'd both managed to back down from their worst and most vicious selves, they'd seen each other in their own actions and vice versa, they were both happy to be alive and not total monsters. I think it's probably a relationship that's going to take a lot more working out, but, it's been built up towards and it fits into their emotional arcs, and the two of them both seem extremely adrift in this horrible cosmos and it doesn't surprise me that even the particularly hosed-up empathy of one trying-to-not-be-a-monster for another is more positive and heartfelt emotion than either of them has really been able to feel for a while.

Basically, Allison is Milhouse and Cio is the other Milhouse, and this is what it feels like when doves cry.

Venuz Patrol
Mar 27, 2011

SunAndSpring posted:

This arc was kind of lame and I'm glad it's ending.

die by my blade

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST
Well the next comic has Allison pushing Cio away and asking her what the gently caress she was thinking, because that was neither the time nor the place. So.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

I don't see what's so unearned about it. If you follow a girl everywhere and do nice things for her and write creepy fanfiction about her and beat the poo poo out of her when she tries to get away from you, then she HAS to be your girlfriend!

Slashrat
Jun 6, 2011

YOSPOS

Fister Roboto posted:

I don't see what's so unearned about it. If you follow a girl everywhere and do nice things for her and write creepy fanfiction about her and beat the poo poo out of her when she tries to get away from you, then she HAS to be your girlfriend!

Maybe Cio should ask if Allison needs to use a printer. That should cinch it.

Giant Ethicist
Jun 9, 2013

Looks like she got on a loaf of bread instead of a bus again...

Patrick Spens posted:

I don't know what the gently caress earned means in a context of the kiss, but Cio had been obviously crushing on Alilson since the beginning of book 2.

"Boyfriend?!"

nimby
Nov 4, 2009

The pinnacle of cloud computing.



Slashrat posted:

Maybe Cio should ask if Allison needs to use a printer. That should cinch it.

At the speed at which Cio can produce paper men, she might be a printer.

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013

Joe Slowboat posted:

Uh I might go out on a limb and say "actually, the Heretic's Court and related characters, including the devil heist crew, were an engaging way of fleshing out Cio both directly and indirectly so as to set up her development as a parallel to Allison's, as they both engage in furious self-hatred and self-destructive behavior to which Mammon and sure-Ynamon serve as a counterpoint and warning, making their rather fraught relationship a key emotional dynamic going forward" but really who couldn't see that.

Yeah that's cool and all but there's like multiple pages set up just wasted setting these crew members as super badass and specialists but whoops none of them do that much or have any personality. Could've just been better served by having them be nameless thugs from Oskar's gang so we could focus on the characters that matter (Cio, Oskar, and Allison).

Anyway the Cio and Allison relationship is kinda creepy as stated by others and I don't think Allison hanging a lampshade on it by going "woah this is hosed up" really excuses it. Also I feel like every comic written by a straight guy with a female protagonist these days has the protagonist turn out to be bi or lesbian so the author doesn't have to write a relationship with a dude in it.

ElMaligno posted:

get the gently caress out my thread

Not quite sure what's with the hostility. Not like I'm saying the comic is ruined or w/e, I just don't like this arc and wish it to be concluded so we can get on to a hopefully better arc. Sometimes comics have a bad stretch for a bit, that's fine! Maybe future developments will make this arc better for having set them up!

Archenteron
Nov 3, 2006

:marc:
Why is everyone wondering what's going to happen to Numbah One after Grandpa Dog dies when it's extremely likely she's about to intercept Mottom to protect her God and get the ultimate Worfing

Brought To You By
Oct 31, 2012

SunAndSpring posted:

Yeah that's cool and all but there's like multiple pages set up just wasted setting these crew members as super badass and specialists but whoops none of them do that much or have any personality. Could've just been better served by having them be nameless thugs from Oskar's gang so we could focus on the characters that matter (Cio, Oskar, and Allison).
Well you did need a bit of lead in for some characters like the cat burglar because otherwise you don't care that she was hired to basically be a key instead of the lockpick. Setting up people as important is a good way to subvert their actual significance to the story when done right and I think it was done right here. Overall it was only a few pages of singing to pull together the crew, and then people started dying more unceremoniously at a non-invasive pace.

Bell_
Sep 3, 2006

Tiny Baltimore
A billion light years away
A goon's posting the same thing
But he's already turned to dust
And the shitpost we read
Is a billion light-years old
A ghost just like the rest of us

ElMaligno posted:

get the gently caress out my thread

Patrick Spens
Jul 21, 2006

"Every quarterback says they've got guts, But how many have actually seen 'em?"
Pillbug

I stand corrected.

thatbastardken
Apr 23, 2010

A contract signed by a minor is not binding!
I get were you're coming from with the 'straight dudes writing lesbians' thing but please consider the alternative: Clevin.

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013

thatbastardken posted:

I get were you're coming from with the 'straight dudes writing lesbians' thing but please consider the alternative: Clevin.

Ok I changed my mind no more men in comics ever

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
I want the old SMT team to do the videogame adaptation of K6BD. Since it will never happen, I am free to dream all I want.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pwWghrkoig

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
Counterargument: All comics are now about lesbians.

Except the ones about furries, those can be gay men.

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Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
are there any good furry lesbian comics out there

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