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double nine posted:you still need a bigger economy to sustain those troops though, which is not a factor with defensive/offensive/quality. The main thing I pick quant for is the regen, which doesn't cost money, although the FL is nice too though once you do have the economy to support it. Plus you can always take the other mil groups too, I usually end up taking all 4 most games. There's really only a couple of groups worth taking under each of the other two categories anyway
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If EU4 had a "Historic AI" option equivalent we could just do this as a challenge. Everyone picks the same Nation and we see who has the best result by 1600 with which idea group.
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https://twitter.com/e_universalis/status/981094406622150656?s=21
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Uh oh, he comes the EU3 sliders. And indeed a new bar to fill up. 
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That looks rad. Maybe we can get some of the feel of moving towards more modern government that you get in Victoria 2 with its social reforms.
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I hope idea groups will factor in with the options somehow.
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Gort posted:That looks rad. Maybe we can get some of the feel of moving towards more modern government that you get in Victoria 2 with its social reforms. This is it. They extend the timeline past 1821 (say until 1936) and voila! Victoria 3 was EU4 all along. What a twist!
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On the one hand, hooray for more detail and nuance in governments! On the other, I am looking at yet another way to buy a dozen little puddly 5% or 10% bonuses to the same modifiers and my blood is starting to boil up out of my eyes. EU these days feels like this bowl of mushy indeterminate gruel to me, sixteen ways to do the same thing and they all taste the same.
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I'm biting the bullet, I'm going to keep EU4 on the 1.19.2 beta. On the current version there are too many variables slowly ticking up that are a drain on my attention span while providing very little satisfaction, and paradox is only doubling down further. 1.19 still has estates as an annoyance but at least the far east isn't completely dictated by the state of Ming, and gives the ruler personalities and more detailed vassal interactions. It's a good place to freeze the game at, imo, especially since there is no army drilling tax
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yeah eu4 ended at 1.19, it's been eu4.5 or the eu5 early access ever since
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canepazzo posted:This is it. They extend the timeline past 1821 (say until 1936) and voila! Victoria 3 was EU4 all along. What a twist! I suggested that Victoria 2 and EU 4 wouldn't have to be massively different once and a guy treated me as though I was literally satan
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Gort posted:I suggested that Victoria 2 and EU 4 wouldn't have to be massively different once and a guy treated me as though I was literally satan Because Victoria 2 is a wine enjoyed by the finest connoisseur while EU4 is the foulest beer for the masses. I'm surprised he would stoop so low to even speak to you.
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QOL request for you Groogy: can you make it so that conquistadors don't stop exploring when they get bumped out of owned provinces? It happens all the time and it's really annoying to babysit them hitting the explore button every time
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the worst thing post 1.19 is the god awful muslim piety bonii flip
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Wafflecopper posted:QOL request for you Groogy: can you make it so that conquistadors don't stop exploring when they get bumped out of owned provinces? It happens all the time and it's really annoying to babysit them hitting the explore button every time I think conquistadors should be removed and all inland exploration done via passive discovery from fully colonized provinces. Lewis & Clarking it in 1520 is non-ideal.
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I mean there totally were dudes trying to do that in the 1520s, like Cabeza de Vaca and company, and they saw a poo poo ton of stuff long before the region was actively colonized. Mind you, it took them eight years to get from Florida back to Mexico and almost everyone of the hundreds of expedition members died miserably, but whatever. That that doesn’t happen in EU4 is because in EU4world the harshest and least developed regions imaginable are still totally capable of sustaining magical invisible transoceanic supply lines, which is kind of its own problem.
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Fintilgin posted:I think conquistadors should be removed and all inland exploration done via passive discovery from fully colonized provinces. That works too, as long as there's less attention/clicking involved I'm down as gently caress
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skasion posted:I mean there totally were dudes trying to do that in the 1520s, like Cabeza de Vaca and company Hello, I'm Cow Head, the explorer.
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Gort posted:I suggested that Victoria 2 and EU 4 wouldn't have to be massively different once and a guy treated me as though I was literally satan that guy was right and cool
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Huh, 2k hours in this game and I've never seen this before, I didn't even know it could happen
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RabidWeasel posted:If anyone wants to do a Byzantium playthrough to try out the new missions, I had the following strategy work flawlessly the first 2 times I tried it: Tried this, and Venice immediately peaced out after maybe 2 months of war just asking for gold from OE. What gives?
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Wafflecopper posted:Huh, 2k hours in this game and I've never seen this before, I didn't even know it could happen that poo poo is badass and the cornerstone for every great navarra migration run
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I've been to Abitibi, and it's exactly like that
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canepazzo posted:Tried this, and Venice immediately peaced out after maybe 2 months of war just asking for gold from OE. What gives? Sounds like you're playing the bugged beta patch where AI allies are completely useless
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Flavius Belisarius posted:Hello, I'm Cow Head, the explorer. Really adds a bit of perspective to all those guys like Tȟatȟáŋka Íyotake
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Another QOL request while I'm at it: Religious League map mode
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Autonomous Monster posted:On the one hand, hooray for more detail and nuance in governments! On the other, I am looking at yet another way to buy a dozen little puddly 5% or 10% bonuses to the same modifiers and my blood is starting to boil up out of my eyes. I had a momentary "oh cool, something to do with the internal management of the country" feeling and then realised it was just more of the same bonuses to modifiers stuff. I hope the sequel makes internal political challenges an actual, significant part of gameplay, because it seems like it's too late in EU4's dev cycle to try and put that in an expansion. It just gets a little strange as the game 'simulates' (or alludes to) more and more historical aspects of culture and statecraft with each expansion, but they only get represented in the context of like, reduced coring costs and higher forcelimits.
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Autonomous Monster posted:On the one hand, hooray for more detail and nuance in governments! On the other, I am looking at yet another way to buy a dozen little puddly 5% or 10% bonuses to the same modifiers and my blood is starting to boil up out of my eyes. Yeah, I wish they'd do things more like how they did ages, where the boniii are mostly unique/big things that can kind of affect how you play more. With governments, you'd even have a chance to throw in some possible cool drawbacks to the reforms to kind of simulate that maybe having a totalitarian hellhole dedicated entirely to military output might bite you in the rear end elsewhere.
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As cool as all of that would be I'm guessing the main hurdle is making the AI capable of actually using all of the systems well enough.
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For QoL reasons, I still would like an ability to manually set a popup at a date in the future: * Can use certain estate interactions again * Truce between my ally and my rival is up * Start integrating vassal 2, so it's not slowed down by the diplo rep penalty of vassal 1 integration.
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boniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
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At this point they should have stopped active development on CK2 and EU4 a long time ago and put those on the backburner, with a very small team just doing bugfix patching from now on, shift more people over to HoI4 and Stellaris, maybe eventually begin work on CK3 and EU5 (if they haven't already, I don't believe they have though). I get the feeling that actively supporting and developing 4 games at the same time is a bit too much for Paradox.
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Senor Dog posted:boniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii bonito is spanish for "little bonus"
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Randarkman posted:At this point they should have stopped active development on CK2 and EU4 a long time ago and put those on the backburner, with a very small team just doing bugfix patching from now on, shift more people over to HoI4 and Stellaris, maybe eventually begin work on CK3 and EU5 (if they haven't already, I don't believe they have though). I get the feeling that actively supporting and developing 4 games at the same time is a bit too much for Paradox. Good news is it will soon be 5 games! They're announcing rome 2 soon
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Senor Dog posted:Good news is it will soon be 5 games! They're announcing rome 2 soon I'd really like Rome 2 to be honest, though I guess this is a joke. Also yeah, if so they're spreading themselves thin.
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oddium posted:bonito is spanish for "little bonus" bonitonii
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OperaMouse posted:* Start integrating vassal 2, so it's not slowed down by the diplo rep penalty of vassal 1 integration. 
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a notice for when a country of Interest gains an heir please
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AG3 posted:As cool as all of that would be I'm guessing the main hurdle is making the AI capable of actually using all of the systems well enough. Just abstract it down to weighted dice rolls. No reason the AI needs to be virtually clicking all the tabs and buttons.
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