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What? Hold on... Okay, it's funny that this guy thinks actual leftists are as gullible as the people who bought safety pin jewelry. We're mostly only incredibly stupid on Twitter. quote:SIGMATA takes place in a dystopian vision of America where fascists have taken control of the government. The Regime fosters white supremacy, religious bigotry, and Cold War hysteria to turn America's fury against already marginalized populations, all while plundering America's coffers and thrusting the country into pointless proxy wars all over the globe. quote:The communities targeted by state violence have begun to fight back. The Resistance is bolstered by an unlikely alliance of radical leftists, libertarian militias, religious activists, and wealthy entrepreneurs, whose grievances with the Regime overpower the seething contempt they have for each other.
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Nuns with Guns posted:Actually, since we're on the subject, has that SIGMATA guy bothered to explain any more about why three right wing militias and some tankies would team up to fight vague fascists? The DSA Boston caucus had everyone else thrown out for listening to Cum Town
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Apr 3, 2018 18:03
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gradenko_2000 posted:The DSA Boston caucus had everyone else thrown out for listening to Cum Town ironic that they won't support the livelihood of a hosed up bug that eats dust
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Apr 3, 2018 18:33
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Halloween Jack posted:What? Hold on... It gets better than that. Here's the chart of what each faction does if the PCs don't keep them in line:  gradenko_2000 posted:The DSA Boston caucus had everyone else thrown out for listening to Cum Town And here I thought they went insane from hearing mild criticisms of The Witcher.
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Apr 3, 2018 19:57
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Nuns with Guns posted:It gets better than that. Here's the chart of what each faction does if the PCs don't keep them in line: This is very much in keeping with the #Resistance people who think defending democracy is putting an I Stand With The FBI image macro on their Twitter account.
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TG thread, I have to run a one-shot for my gaming group, and it's been requested that it's some kind of D&D. We just finished a 5e game, so I'd rather pick something D&D-ish that will run well for a one-shot. Currently my top picks are some kind of Dungeon Crawl Classics module or alternately just running the Tomb of Horrors for making me run D&D. Any suggestions? e: Also please, no Dungeon World suggestions. My players aren't up to making up so much of the story.
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Strike! or BD&D are pretty good at 1-shots since they are relatively light. I personally prefer the former, as it has some really nice combat crunch and the rest is light enough that it's not an issue. EDIT: Or 2e isn't too bad if you don't have clerics or wizards. Even if you do, there are shortcuts that exist. Skip chargen if this is the case and just run using the pregens in whatever module you choose. (I like "B4 - The Lost City") Moriatti fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Apr 3, 2018 |
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Apr 3, 2018 21:05
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Zarick posted:TG thread, I have to run a one-shot for my gaming group, and it's been requested that it's some kind of D&D. We just finished a 5e game, so I'd rather pick something D&D-ish that will run well for a one-shot. Currently my top picks are some kind of Dungeon Crawl Classics module or alternately just running the Tomb of Horrors for making me run D&D. Shadow of the Demon Lord is excellent and is an easy transition from D&D. Character creation is quick with a ton of options, so it works great for a one-shot. Be careful of starting characters at Level 0 though, as they're very squishy.
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Apr 3, 2018 21:08
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Nuns with Guns posted:It gets better than that. Here's the chart of what each faction does if the PCs don't keep them in line: This is really just another argument to summarily execute anyone who uses the word "maker."
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Apr 3, 2018 21:19
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Zarick posted:TG thread, I have to run a one-shot for my gaming group, and it's been requested that it's some kind of D&D. We just finished a 5e game, so I'd rather pick something D&D-ish that will run well for a one-shot. Currently my top picks are some kind of Dungeon Crawl Classics module or alternately just running the Tomb of Horrors for making me run D&D. Into The Odd has a one shot dungeon/crawl in it’s core book.
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I don’t remember doing it, but I apparently backed SIGMATA. I blame hypomania.
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Zarick posted:TG thread, I have to run a one-shot for my gaming group, and it's been requested that it's some kind of D&D. We just finished a 5e game, so I'd rather pick something D&D-ish that will run well for a one-shot. Currently my top picks are some kind of Dungeon Crawl Classics module or alternately just running the Tomb of Horrors for making me run D&D. Sailors on the Starless Sea or Arwich Grinder for DCC are both super good one shots
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Nuns with Guns posted:It gets better than that. Here's the chart of what each faction does if the PCs don't keep them in line: Tankies are scumbags, but I fail to see how selling out their COMRADES to fascists would go well besides perhaps a permanent house arrest for the lot of them at best. Look at what happened to the Strasserites The AnCap Makers are the first to flee when things go bad. I actually like that part. The creator mentions that one of the Old Men's inspirations includes Redneck Revolt (left-wing anticapitalist rural whites), yet the label of "The Ethno State" for Imminent Victory doesn't lend credence to this. Ah well, going back to Eclipse Phase for my Fash-Bashing needs.
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Apr 3, 2018 23:59
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lmao redneck revolt is the opposite of what this smoothbrain thinks it is
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Halloween Jack posted:Really doubling down on the general theme of "Wouldn't it be scary if stuff that already happened had happened, also I don't know what socialism is" Look, extensive studies went into this. He talked to a libertarian and a devout Christian! He explained a one point somewhere how writing from these povs he claims to be opposed to made him see how they could be "heroic" too. He seems to genuinely think that armed uprisings are only a right wing thing. He also talked about how this is a cyberpunk game where you play augmented Adam Jensens that power up with radio signals, but it's also a low-tech underground freedom fighter game and after a while I just think he piled every buzzword he likes into the setting pitch.
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Would be fun to see how long you could describe your heartbreaker fantasy setting on ENWorld while only changing names in Wikipedia articles. Edit: there is a certain appeal to write a fantasy setting that touches Earth. Flame Princess adventures are always exciting to read. I also think robbing Shadowrun and timing the awakening during year 1d2718-700 would be a blast. piL fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Apr 4, 2018 |
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Apr 4, 2018 00:56
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Zarick posted:TG thread, I have to run a one-shot for my gaming group, and it's been requested that it's some kind of D&D. We just finished a 5e game, so I'd rather pick something D&D-ish that will run well for a one-shot. Currently my top picks are some kind of Dungeon Crawl Classics module or alternately just running the Tomb of Horrors for making me run D&D. Beyond the Wall has a fun character creation system which leads to a pretty neat Basic clone if your players are into that.
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Libertad! posted:Tankies are scumbags, but I fail to see how selling out their COMRADES to fascists would go well besides perhaps a permanent house arrest for the lot of them at best. Look at what happened to the Strasserites quote:The AnCap Makers are the first to flee when things go bad. I actually like that part. Nuns with Guns posted:He also talked about how this is a cyberpunk game where you play augmented Adam Jensens that power up with radio signals, but it's also a low-tech underground freedom fighter game and after a while I just think he piled every buzzword he likes into the setting pitch. So the real ideology of Sigmata is revealed: The Regime is evil because it's bad management. In the event of an emergency, they'd spur anti-establishment activists to take extreme actions...why? If the Regime is about to lose, it will seek a strategic alliance with whatever faction is winning, and it's assumed that all of them would go for it, instead of telling ReaganThatcherHitler1989 to eat a dick. Again, why? Because the real enemy is the people. The Resistance needs to properly control them where the Regime has failed. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Apr 4, 2018 |
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It also says a lot that the Regime doesn't have a distinctive, defining ideology besides a damp cardboard box of all the leftover bad things authoritarians want to do. No, no, not those bad things like an ethno-state or puritanical theocracy, that's what your allies would do if you let them take uncontested power. I mean uhhhh... being mean to refugees and jackboots.
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Yeah that's the weird thing. First it's like "OMG, what if the Reagan administration had actually happened?" Then the factions opposing the Reagan Regime are...the social forces that made up the Reagan coalition, and also a Boris and Natasha idea of leftism.
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*checks list* hmmm actually yeah Neo-Stalinism rules gimme some of that poo poo
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Stalin did a lot of things but he would never give Reagan a seat on the Central Committee. Beria is terrible enough, thanks.
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Halloween Jack posted:Stalin did a lot of things but he would never give Reagan a seat on the Central Committee. Beria is terrible enough, thanks. actually, if you check the description of what happens in the Neo-Stalinism outcome, "the Party establishes a strategic alliance with the Regime", so the game asserts that the opposite will happen. It's complete nonsense because the Regime is never defined as having any ideology other than being Generically Bad.
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I actually talked to this guy and tried to ask him what he was thinking. He came off like a really under-informed individual playing as being informed. It seems like he has no idea about anything he was talking about and was very politically naive. I'm saying this is if this was a shock, of course. He is malicious, but really loving uninformed.
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Zarick posted:TG thread, I have to run a one-shot for my gaming group, and it's been requested that it's some kind of D&D. We just finished a 5e game, so I'd rather pick something D&D-ish that will run well for a one-shot. Currently my top picks are some kind of Dungeon Crawl Classics module or alternately just running the Tomb of Horrors for making me run D&D. Dungeon Crawl Classics: Steal Dracula’s Gold has a Casino where the players can risk their lives against Death to draw from a Deck of Many things. Here is an actual play. http://actualplay.roleplayingpublicradio.com/2015/09/genre/fantasy/dungeon-crawl-classics-steal-dracula-gold/
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What did happen to the grognards.txt thread? Too much drama?
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the onion wizard posted:What did happen to the grognards.txt thread? Too much drama? There was a decision to close it down, largely because it was just a black hole of negativity (I mean, it necessarily would be, but you don't have to have a thread like that).
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Iirc the last straw was when someone got doxxed. It didn't help that the discourse mainly went from "let's mock this persons' weird piss whizzard fan supplement" to "oh god everyone in this industry is a horrible person."
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Which is what the Industry thread is for, when it's not anime.
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gradenko_2000 posted:There was a decision to close it down, largely because it was just a black hole of negativity (I mean, it necessarily would be, but you don't have to have a thread like that). Splicer fucked around with this message at 10:32 on Apr 4, 2018 |
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It hit that point all mockthreads reach where the thread regulars want to keep the funny going at the same pace as before, but have run out of any novel things to laugh at on the reg, so things escalated as people resorted to more desperate measures for laughs. Hence the aformentioned doxxing of mock subjects. People also can't seem to help but take the mock subjects super personally and start posting creepily intense anger, I guess.
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The main issue of grogs.txt, I think, is that it granted a false legitimacy to the exceedingly regressive corners of the TG industry. There are guys (and it was always guys) who would get constant coverage just for their capacity to type out intellectual vomit, which gave them an air of psuedo-legitimacy and boosted their self-aggrandizement. Now that grogs.txt is gone, most of those guys may as well not exist as far as I've seen. I'm sure they're out there and that they have readers, but it's far better for my mental health not to worry about them.
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It's just as well, since generally the next step from running out of targets (depending on how enthusiastic the regulars are about finding them) is to turn on each other, as shown by Helldump and its dozens of descendants across the internet.
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Apr 4, 2018 13:27
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gradenko_2000 posted:There was a decision to close it down, largely because it was just a black hole of negativity (I mean, it necessarily would be, but you don't have to have a thread like that).
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Inescapable Duck posted:It's just as well, since generally the next step from running out of targets (depending on how enthusiastic the regulars are about finding them) is to turn on each other, as shown by Helldump and its dozens of descendants across the internet. I remember reading some funny threads about CWC and other internet weird people a decade ago and forgot about it a few months later and the wiki by the lunatics who stalk that person's minutia and upload it with hate fanfics is still going to this very day because people are too deranged and we lack the kind of morality that the Catholic Church used to enforce back in the day.
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dwarf74 posted:Ironically enough, grogs.txt was a revelation of a thread for me, because it's about the first time I really stopped and thought about what makes games good. Oh yeah, I was reading that stuff long before I was even into TTRPGs, and the takedowns of various grog talking points was enough to immunize me from lots of bad habits when the hobby finally clicked.
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Der Waffle Mous posted:Iirc the last straw was when someone got doxxed. That happened to one of the grognards.txt threads but not the last one. IIRC someone posted a link to the criminal record of some game dev dipshit and Winson disappeared the thread from the public forum. Nuns with Guns posted:It hit that point all mockthreads reach where the thread regulars want to keep the funny going at the same pace as before, but have run out of any novel things to laugh at on the reg, so things escalated as people resorted to more desperate measures for laughs. This is right though. When I closed it, grognards.txt was only interesting once every month or so when something new and interesting happened. The rest of the time it was just goons reposting the same content/4E Is Good speeches and making each other miserable. These days when something actually worth talking about comes up it goes in the chat thread, the industry thread, or wherever else it seems relevant, and when goons run out of things to say about that they just talk about something else instead of reposting some guy's Cultural Marxist Pearlclutchers Made My Dick Not Work blogspot rant. It works a lot better IMO.
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The overlooked thing about grognards.txt was that it quickly went from "Get a load of this silly person who takes gaming too seriously" to "Get a load of this misogynist racist lunatic" because it turns out that there's so much of the latter in the hobby. On rare occasion someone would post a harmless crusty old gamer rant about AD&D rules, and others would say "I don't get it, where's the grog?"
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