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Senor Dog posted:Good news is it will soon be 5 games! They're announcing rome 2 soon Dont forget east vs we- *begins crying. first a little bit then a lot*
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That game looked poised to be a loving poo poo show.
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Finally finished my first campaign after more than a year (life gets in the way; whole campaign was on 1.19 as a result). I went in with the intention of securing a lot of vassals as Austria via the privilegia revocation and ended with 130 princes in the empire. I'm pretty happy with that result for a first game, though I'm sure I could better it by quite a bit with the experience. The world at the beginning of 1821: And the state of the HRE:  The line Armenia-Nogai-Bashkiria-Russia marks its eastern extent; all European states outside Britain and Iberia are members. Thanks to some of the thread regulars for giving me advice at the start.
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Apr 3, 2018 21:45
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Randarkman posted:I'd really like Rome 2 to be honest, though I guess this is a joke. Also yeah, if so they're spreading themselves thin. They are for sure confirmed to be announcing a new PDS game. And I am far too pessimistic to believe it's vicky 3. I guess it could be a new title maybe
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Apr 3, 2018 21:50
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I'm pretty disappointed that they are adding new features instead of just polishing and adding more unique missions/events/decisions.
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Apr 3, 2018 22:40
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Oh god. The Commonwealth joined the HRE and has been the emperor for 50 years  how am I going to conquer Germany in the name of the Italian Republic?
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Luigi Thirty posted:Oh god. The Commonwealth joined the HRE and has been the emperor for 50 years With a fuckton of dead Russians?
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Apr 3, 2018 23:01
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Traxis posted:I'm pretty disappointed that they are adding new features instead of just polishing and adding more unique missions/events/decisions. Assuming that they're going to roll some existing features such as unique government types and parliaments and gently caress knows what else into this new system it should be a good bit of 'polish' as well as adding some new stuff.
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Apr 3, 2018 23:03
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dublish posted:With a fuckton of dead Russians? Might work... France has been my designated "beat up on Spain" buddy for the past century or so. Once I'm through with Spain, I'll cozy up to Russia and see if General Winter can take care of those pesky Poles.
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Apr 3, 2018 23:31
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Anyone tried Riga/Livonian Order in the latest patch? Everything I find says to fabricate on Danzig and add it to the HRE, but Lithuania starts with permanent claims on all of Riga and LO and Denmark gets permanent claims after one mission, so even if I manage to take Danzig (on which Poland starts with a permanent claim  ) I am finding it very difficult to survive long enough for that to work.I don't want to no CB East Frisia.
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Apr 4, 2018 00:00
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Traxis posted:I'm pretty disappointed that they are adding new features instead of just polishing and adding more unique missions/events/decisions. I really wish this was a priority for them moving forward so they can just knock out more and more regions as time goes on and flesh out existing ones. edit: I understand it really isn't feasible to have every nation to have what England/GB has but I can dream.
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Apr 4, 2018 00:08
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So, i'm really bad at the game, but having fun (similar to my experiences with all of Paradox's other games and Dominions 4) how the heck do you make money? I had a go with Portugal, and I get war declared on me straight away by Monaco, and can't enlarge my army, because that imediately puts me in debt. Is it just trade? Any buildings that might improve production or income seem a long way away. As a disclaimer, I have very little of the DLC, just Res Publica, Wealth of Nations and Conquest of Paradise. I plan to grab a few more the next time they're on special. I'm sorry to ask here. I know there's a lot of strategy guides out there, but they seem to assume a level of competence and understanding that I really don't have.
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Apr 4, 2018 03:47
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Snowman_McK posted:So, i'm really bad at the game, but having fun (similar to my experiences with all of Paradox's other games and Dominions 4) how the heck do you make money? I had a go with Portugal, and I get war declared on me straight away by Monaco, and can't enlarge my army, because that imediately puts me in debt. Is it just trade? Any buildings that might improve production or income seem a long way away. The quickest way to get a bunch of cash is by taking loans. The game will do this automatically for you if you run out of money, but you can take several at a time if you just need a lot of money to buy troops. But loans have interest which can cut significantly into your ability to pay them back, so you need to be a bit careful about how much debt you go into. Debt itself isn’t bad though as long as you’re still making money. The next best way to make quick cash is to demand it from enemies in peace deals. Depends on you being able to beat them of course. In the early game most of your regular income will be coming from tax. Later production, trade, and tariffs will become more important sources of income, especially for a smallish nation like Portugal that has the potential to get a lot of colonies. Income boosting buildings are nice to have, but will never be the determining factor of whether you make a ton of money or not.
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Apr 4, 2018 04:40
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Is anybody else’s Ming nomadic frontier disaster working? The any_neighbour_country scope is checking Ming itself instead. In game the conditions for allowing it to start ticking are Ming’s Goverment form is Steppe Nomads Total Development at least 300 (Currently 1101) I turned off all mods and deleted the disaster file and revalidated. Still a no go.
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Apr 4, 2018 04:42
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skasion posted:The quickest way to get a bunch of cash is by taking loans. The game will do this automatically for you if you run out of money, but you can take several at a time if you just need a lot of money to buy troops. But loans have interest which can cut significantly into your ability to pay them back, so you need to be a bit careful about how much debt you go into. Debt itself isn’t bad though as long as you’re still making money. Ah, I was just demanding land when I had a go as the Ottomans.
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Apr 4, 2018 04:59
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Snowman_McK posted:Ah, I was just demanding land when I had a go as the Ottomans. Most of the time you want the land but occasionally you have to demand some money instead if its going to put you over 100% overextension or give you enough AE to cause a coalition. If the country is small enough you can take their money and their land
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Apr 4, 2018 06:03
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Firebatgyro posted:Most of the time you want the land but occasionally you have to demand some money instead if its going to put you over 100% overextension or give you enough AE to cause a coalition. I managed to get both from Karaman(Caraman?) but there was one province I couldn't demand because it couldn't be cored. What's the deal with that? They were also at war with 'Adana' but i controled every province.
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Apr 4, 2018 06:47
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Snowman_McK posted:I managed to get both from Karaman(Caraman?) but there was one province I couldn't demand because it couldn't be cored. What's the deal with that? They were also at war with 'Adana' but i controled every province. Either you were over 100% warscore or the province wasn't adjacent somehow. Pretty sure Ottomans should be able to just grab all of Karamon in one go though.
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Apr 4, 2018 07:33
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appropriatemetaphor posted:Either you were over 100% warscore or the province wasn't adjacent somehow. Pretty sure Ottomans should be able to just grab all of Karamon in one go though. I was at 92% warscore. I saved the game right before I said yes, so if I figure out what went wrong, I can go back. Would a screenshot of the 'sue for peace' screen help?
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Apr 4, 2018 08:40
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aphid_licker posted:No reason the AI needs to be virtually clicking all the tabs and buttons. Eh what? That's not what "Using the system" for the AI means. The AI never interacts with the actual UI....
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Apr 4, 2018 08:46
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Snowman_McK posted:I was at 92% warscore. I saved the game right before I said yes, so if I figure out what went wrong, I can go back. Would a screenshot of the 'sue for peace' screen help? Maybe yeah. It's probably that the last province costs over 8%. There's a popup somewhere that says like "Can't take over 100% warscore" if that's the case.
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Apr 4, 2018 08:50
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Could also be that the last province iwould be surrounded by another country, so you don't border it, and hence it's out of coring range.
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Apr 4, 2018 09:00
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OperaMouse posted:Could also be that the last province iwould be surrounded by another country, so you don't border it, and hence it's out of coring range. That actually makes sense. It's just around the corner from me. I'd still be connected to it, but only on one side. appropriatemetaphor posted:Maybe yeah. It's probably that the last province costs over 8%. There's a popup somewhere that says like "Can't take over 100% warscore" if that's the case. It might also be this, but it wasn't selectable even when nothing else was selected.
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Apr 4, 2018 09:01
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Maybe they should come up with some new mechanic, instead of just more mana bars that allow you to click a button to get 5% more whatever. How about a mana bar that lets you fill an other mana bar that then gives you a 5% tax bonus? Maybe make it interactive so you need to click it every 10 days.
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Apr 4, 2018 09:18
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dublish posted:With a fuckton of dead Russians? I allied Russia and was within a year dragged into a defensive war against Super-Ottomans. I invaded the Balkans while Russia and the Turks slugged it out in Ukraine and the motherland. After years of attrition warfare, we won and extracted some cash from the Ottomans, giving me shitloads of favors with the Romanovs. Time to let my manpower recharge and go to war with all of Europe... it’s 1703 so I’ve got about a century to recreate Trajan’s borders 
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Apr 4, 2018 09:26
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Snowman_McK posted:That actually makes sense. It's just around the corner from me. I'd still be connected to it, but only on one side. Is the province occupied by an enemy in another war? If that is the case, either wait for that war to finish (hoping the enemy doesn't actually take it), for rebels to take occupation away and siege it for yourself, or let them have it and then go to war over it with the new enemy
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Apr 4, 2018 09:48
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Doesn't Anglican get any CORs? And what's the difference between converting and "proselytizing in the new world", other than getting / spending 400~ ducats? If OE kill the HRE as they look like they're about to in my game, do I get the Great Britain, Ascendant mission done? Speaking of OE, new mission systems makes them even more of a beast without player involvement, I'm in the early 1500 and they have killed Poland and Hungary (although Poland keeps getting punitive'd every game due to AE from their very first war), strangled Muscovy in the crib and fed half of it to Crimea, cut Mamluks in half, and are eyeing Austria.
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Apr 4, 2018 09:58
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canepazzo posted:Doesn't Anglican get any CORs? And what's the difference between converting and "proselytizing in the new world", other than getting / spending 400~ ducats? No, it was occupied by me. I'd taken all their provinces. I split my much larger army in two and took all their provinces.
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Apr 4, 2018 11:37
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RabidWeasel posted:If anyone wants to do a Byzantium playthrough to try out the new missions, I had the following strategy work flawlessly the first 2 times I tried it: Have tried and failed with this three times now. I think my problem is finding allies quickly enough, as the Ottomans always declare war on me first. I can grab Wallachia as an ally no problem, but can't get relations high enough with anybody else fast enough. Who else have people been allying with successfully?
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canepazzo posted:If OE kill the HRE as they look like they're about to in my game, do I get the Great Britain, Ascendant mission done? Yes, if they destroy the HRE and you've done the prerequisite missions that'll count for Great Britain, Ascendant. I've never seen then the Ottos take down the entire HRE though, or evcen come close. I've seen them eat Hungary and nibble at Austria plenty of times, but there's a long way to go from taking a few provinces from Austria to destroying the HRE.
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Apr 4, 2018 13:04
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Snowman_McK posted:I was at 92% warscore. I saved the game right before I said yes, so if I figure out what went wrong, I can go back. Would a screenshot of the 'sue for peace' screen help? Yes please post a screenshot so people stop guessing what the problem is.
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canepazzo posted:Doesn't Anglican get any CORs? And what's the difference between converting and "proselytizing in the new world", other than getting / spending 400~ ducats? You spend 400 ducats to get a COR
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RabidWeasel posted:Assuming that they're going to roll some existing features such as unique government types and parliaments and gently caress knows what else into this new system it should be a good bit of 'polish' as well as adding some new stuff.  Where the darker bits require less maintenance to stay in/are more stable than the brighter bits, and with the monarchist faction in the center to skew the system towards the historical standard of monarchic rule. What reforms are available to you would depend on where you sat in the above, with you being able to implement new laws in the section you're in or any neighboring color at a higher cost. The grey bit would of course be a highly flexible position, but the reforms here could also be less exciting - parliamentary compromise type laws that offer a little of everything, but don't push you strongly toward a certain kind of play style. Conversely, the reforms in the colored circles would be something that had a lot of influence on how your government operated, but they'd also be a source of instability if you ended up in another color. So like, maybe you've got the Hereditary Rule reform from the dark purple circle. This is perfectly fine as long as you're inside either purple circle, but it has the potential to become a real issue if you enter one of the other colors - basically, the greater the mismatch the faster the faction currently ascendant would revolt and attempt to undo it. Unhappy monarchist factions would rise up as pretenders in a monarchy, as clearly the current monarch isn't a proper one. I think the above could be a pretty easily understandable system for defining your government, and it'd allow a lot of variety in government types without strictly defining any given one, by making it possible to mix and match various laws. For the major laws, I'm thinking stuff like: Elective, short terms: No automatic succession, 5 years of rule Elective, long terms: No automatic succession, 10 years of rule Elective for Life: Base law, no automatic dynastic succession, rules till death. Semi-Elective: Like elective for your current government, but the ruler can tip the scales towards their own heir, based on the level of Monarchist influence. Hereditary: Automatic inheritance for heirs. Which would allow both historical variety and accuracy, like Denmark technically still being elective at the start of the game, allow countries to reform into internal troubles like the Commonwealth, or even weird semi-historical possibilities like a pope trying to make the position hereditary.
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RabidWeasel posted:If anyone wants to do a Byzantium playthrough to try out the new missions, I had the following strategy work flawlessly the first 2 times I tried it: I tried this a couple of times and eventually succeeded. Didn't manage to do the separate peace trick, Venice found itself in a war with Bosnia and if I took a separate peace I could get Edirne and Sofya while my former allies would get wrecked. Waiting for Albania to offer a peace ended up with me gaining all my cores except Edirne back, which I found much more preferable. I also managed to get a dip rep advisor and rivalled Venice, which got me an alliance with Hungary. I had time to grow by eating Albania and Serbia and by the time I found myself fighting Ottomans again I had Hungary, Austria and Mamluks by my side. Now it's 1570s, The Ottomans have finally been wiped out. Now I'm eyeing on my former allies and recent rivals, the Mamluks, who have grown strong with half of the Ottoman territory and hate me for "forgetting" their share of conquests.
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hell yeah it can be like those anime power level webs
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OperaMouse posted:For QoL reasons, I still would like an ability to manually set a popup at a date in the future: Randarkman posted:At this point they should have stopped active development on CK2 and EU4 a long time ago and put those on the backburner, with a very small team just doing bugfix patching from now on, shift more people over to HoI4 and Stellaris, maybe eventually begin work on CK3 and EU5 (if they haven't already, I don't believe they have though). I get the feeling that actively supporting and developing 4 games at the same time is a bit too much for Paradox.
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Captain Mediocre posted:Have tried and failed with this three times now. I think my problem is finding allies quickly enough, as the Ottomans always declare war on me first. I can grab Wallachia as an ally no problem, but can't get relations high enough with anybody else fast enough. Who else have people been allying with successfully? If they declare on you first then you restart, there's basically no situation where being personally declared on in a defensive war vs. Ottomans is a good idea. You only make allies to make the Ottoman AI have less desire to declare on you first. Lord Hypnostache posted:I tried this a couple of times and eventually succeeded. Didn't manage to do the separate peace trick, Venice found itself in a war with Bosnia and if I took a separate peace I could get Edirne and Sofya while my former allies would get wrecked. Waiting for Albania to offer a peace ended up with me gaining all my cores except Edirne back, which I found much more preferable. I also managed to get a dip rep advisor and rivalled Venice, which got me an alliance with Hungary. I had time to grow by eating Albania and Serbia and by the time I found myself fighting Ottomans again I had Hungary, Austria and Mamluks by my side. Venice getting into a separate war sounds like bad luck, the reason taking Edirne is such a big deal is that it means that the Ottomans have to retain naval dominance in order to be able to cross the straits, it's very unlucky for Albania to lose that war when they can regroup in the Balkans at any time but if Venice were being useless then that explains it. RabidWeasel fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Apr 4, 2018 |
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Fister Roboto posted:hell yeah it can be like those anime power level webs
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Man the AI sure does like to run through uncolonized land instead of moving through my provinces. I definitely didn't take advantage of that to turn a probably lost war into a win as they soaked a bunch of extra losses from fighting native armies.
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