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Leal posted:Yeah, this thread is getting way too "Lalala, plug my ears, can't hear you!" about literally anything about Spoony. Its like when people would talk about a certain anime in various mock threads of the past, don't know what this anime was but it was always brought up as "That anime that shall not be named" or "tatsnbn". Is Spoony going to be this thread's "That reviewer that shall not be named"? Its ok to talk about him guys, he isn't a pedophile anime. Counterpoint: 
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Arcsquad12 posted:The interview with Oin's actor was great but it hammered home just how unfixable the movies are. It doesn't matter how much you edit out to make one four hour film if the main cast got increasingly sidelined as production went on. It's not just a matter of the good stuff getting buried, but of the emotional core getting overruled by the need for action scenes. I think they might’ve been salvageable if they didn’t throw everything away and pushed GDT out at the last second and made three movies for the sake of accounting. Once they did that they had a product that inherently was built around compromises engineered to improve revenue, not to make a better film, and it could only go downhill from there. Ellis’ video is amazing tho and the ending is phenomenal.
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Baka-nin posted:Counterpoint: That was from a trying too hard fyad moron though, some people do get weirdly IT IS FORBIDDEN about Spoony but the real issue is more just yeah, what's there to say anymore.
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Lightning Knight posted:I think they might’ve been salvageable if they didn’t throw everything away and pushed GDT out at the last second and made three movies for the sake of accounting. Once they did that they had a product that inherently was built around compromises engineered to improve revenue, not to make a better film, and it could only go downhill from there. Yeah. Still, I feel like the first movie is the closest to good: it focuses on Bilbo and the Dwarves, it has songs, and aside from cutting some songs and having a few way-too-long actions cenes it's mostly a good adaptation. It's from movie 2 onward I felt betrayed. (Why the gently caress didn't they have the elf sing when they arrive at Rivendell? Why the Goblin Town song last only a few seconds?)
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Yardbomb posted:That was from a trying too hard fyad moron though, some people do get weirdly IT IS FORBIDDEN about Spoony but the real issue is more just yeah, what's there to say anymore. Yeah, I feel that it's just that anything about Spoony is going to retread old ground and you always get that creep who really wants to talk about his patreon and how long it's been since he made something.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Yeah. Still, I feel like the first movie is the closest to good: it focuses on Bilbo and the Dwarves, it has songs, and aside from cutting some songs and having a few way-too-long actions cenes it's mostly a good adaptation. I'll be honest and say that I'm probably a bad person to judge the Hobbit because I found the book to be dreadfully dull and I haven't seen nor am I interested in LOTR. I saw the first two Hobbit films and thought they were passable but mediocre and didn't bother to see the third one. So discovering that the prevailing opinion is that the Hobbit films weren't good surprised me a little because I thought I was an outlier in not really enjoying them.
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Baka-nin posted:Counterpoint: That was over the Internet Aristocrat's series too. The same series that got super stalkery by Episode 3. Holy poo poo! Why do you care about Linkara's porn history, you loving Nazi creep?!
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Apr 4, 2018 04:07
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CaligulaKangaroo posted:Holy poo poo! Why do you care about Linkara's porn history, you loving Nazi creep?! I misread that for a second and had a brief thought of "Wait, Lewis was in a porno? What?"
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Apr 4, 2018 04:11
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Lewis and Fat Grandma Make a Porno
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I also feel kind of lovely because now I look at every dude who didn't contribute to that doc and I wonder "Are they the one?" Okay, that's several posts in a row, despite several people politely saying "Respect the victim's wishes and don't dig into this". Let alone the fact that you aren't privy to any information about things like, maybe there's ongoing police investigation, or victims forming a case against Whoever. It isn't your duty to interfere with any of that. Mel Mudkiper posted:5 bucks says its Angry Joe Don't do that.
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business hammocks posted:Lewis and Fat Grandma Make a Porno I'd watch that just to see how the special effects are done.
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I mean I was always kind of just sad Spoony never managed to pull himself out of whatever funk he fell into and find himself again. But I mean, hating the dude for having a break down and self immolating is super douchey.
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yea a few people do get a bit "HE MUST NEVER BE INVOKED" but most of the reaction is just 'yep, he doesn't really do anything, sucks that he kinda just had a breakdown and never recovered...the end?' There's no real 'drama' to talk about there.
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lornekates posted:Okay, that's several posts in a row, despite several people politely saying "Respect the victim's wishes and don't dig into this". Interfering with what? You make it sound like I am trying to start drama or uncover info about it and everyone is begging me to stop. I asked if anyone knew anything about it, they said no and explained why, and I said "that makes sense, it just sucks that he gets to be, as another poster put it, another open secret I dont get where you are getting the idea that I am trying to mine for drama. I agree with the people politely saying "respect the wishes" and just mentioned its frustrating we live in a world where a woman cannot name her abuser because it will backfire on her. quote:Don't do that. It was a joke, admittedly in a bit of bad taste. My bad. Mel Mudkiper fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Apr 4, 2018 |
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Apr 4, 2018 04:27
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lornekates posted:I'd watch that just to see how the special effects are done. "That's the best spaceship I've ever seen in a porno!"
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MonsieurChoc posted:
The Extended Version has you covered. Of course why the hell they made extended editions for the freaking Hobbit is baffling to me.
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I think a big chunk of the "Lalala, no talking about Spoony!" sentiment comes from SA's historical inability to not be creepy about Spoony. He's always been an epicenter for drama and there was a time where PYF had a whole thread dedicated to his minute-by-minute downward spiral. The caution this thread takes towards mentioning him is warranted. As for the video, that was a good rundown on Spoony's career. I was never a big Spoony fan but I was occasionally interested in his work, or just privy to the drama by proximity by other creators. I'm also looking forward to Fredrik reading up on the Channel Awesome controversy.
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the youtube shooter was angry about the demonetization of her content according to NBC and keemstar (who later calls for gun control) pretty much all of my favorite critics have made a video on demonetization at one point, pretty crazy stuff if you make a living from youtube i guess this would be like shooting up the bosses office after being fired?
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Interfering with what? You make it sound like I am trying to start drama or uncover info about it and everyone is begging me to stop. I asked if anyone knew anything about it, they said no and explained why, and I said "that makes sense, it just sucks that he gets to be, as another poster put it, another open secret Yeah, maybe don't make jokes about people being sexual predators. It did not read as a joke. It's also weird to do when you're saying that it's out of concern and not drama. Lmao which one of you ratted Allison out to Some Jerk With a Camera? Sarcopenia fucked around with this message at 07:36 on Apr 4, 2018 |
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business hammocks posted:Lewis and Fat Grandma Make a Porno "I'll fill your ******** full of sass!" lornekates posted:I'd watch that just to see how the special effects are done. "The idiots in charge though the effects in this were half-assed, but they look fine. Maybe they meant that there's so much debris rendered on screen that you can't see the other half."  ...I'm sorry. Visidan posted:the youtube shooter was angry about the demonetization of her content according to NBC and keemstar (who later calls for gun control) pretty much all of my favorite critics have made a video on demonetization at one point, pretty crazy stuff I was wondering if the YouTube offices shooting was going to come up.
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Max Wilco posted:"I'll fill your ******** full of sass!" Well, I did mean how one does a split-screen porno with themselves, but you get points for the joke. B+. I'd give you an A, but you should have put a porno variation on the theme. "There's so much jizz rendered on the screen..." etc. Good effort, I'm proud. Max Wilco posted:I was wondering if the YouTube offices shooting was going to come up. As of last night, I've heard the motives were (tossing out the nutbar conspiracy theorists) either a domestic situation (woman vs. [ex]-bf), or an unstable person angry at YouTube restriction her videos (which is just a single worm ontop of a very, very large can of iceberg worms). The latest NYT articles seems to indicate the latter. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/03/technology/youtube-shooting-suspect-headquarters.html *e* okay, I know it's a serious article and all, but... quote:Zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital received three patients That's gotta sting in the old corporate pride a bit. quote:Many employees said they had initially thought the episode was a fire drill. Others said they had run when people started shouting that there was a shooter. Two hours after the attack, YouTube employees, including Susan Wojcicki, the chief executive, continued to stream slowly down the hill, away from the office. 0_0 You guys thought it was a fire drill, and it took over TWO HOURS to evacuate? quote:Zach Vorhies, 37, a senior software engineer at YouTube ... had been sitting at his desk when the fire alarm went off. He grabbed his electric skateboard and headed for a back exit Because of-loving-course there's a Google engineer named "Zach" who rides an electric skateboard. quote:About 25 feet away from the victim, he said, a man was shouting, “Come at me!” Mr. Vorhies thought the man was the attacker, but he did not see a gun and said it was possible that the man had actually “been taunting the shooter.” >_< 1) OF-loving-COURSE someone at Google would try to bring memes to a gunfight. 2) Yes, I will acknowledge whoever was doing that might have been trying to distract the gunner and draw fire from others and that's a heroic move 3) Unless he was just taunting the shooter in which case >_< x2 4) This right here is why "a good guy with a gun" will result in disaster. If Zach had a handgun instead of an electric skateboard, and in the fear&confusion of the moment-- when he thought the shouty-man was the attacker-- he would have opened fire. On the wrong person. Then gotten himself killed by either a) the actual gunner b) the police c) some OTHER "good guy with a gun" who just saw Zach gun down a co-worker. Repeat for that guy. lornekates fucked around with this message at 14:41 on Apr 4, 2018 |
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The youtube shooter was also a muslim woman, so watch this be one of the few shootings where something's actually done because a scary name did it this time and it was a wealthy group who were affected. Or at the very least we're gonna see the usual shitbags talk about how it was a secret Soros antifa super soldier.
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Yardbomb posted:The youtube shooter was also a muslim woman, so watch this be one of the few shootings where something's actually done because a scary name did it this time and it was a wealthy group who were affected. Be careful with this, I've seen conflicting reports on whether she was Muslim or Bahá'í. Not that it should matter, but alas.
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Lightning Knight posted:Be careful with this, I've seen conflicting reports on whether she was Muslim or Bahá'í. Not that it should matter, but alas. This. Of course she has a "muslim-sounding" name so I'm sure the right-wing pundits are already jizzing in their own mouths at the chance to shout "RELIGION OF PEACE" etc.
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lornekates posted:This. The YouTube demonetization wounds are still fresh so I guess that takes priority? 
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Max Wilco posted:Both Fallout 3 and Fallout 4 I think have the same story issue where you ask, "What are the villains' goals?", and you can't get a real definite answer. The Enclave wanted the water purifier in Fallout 3 for..some reason (you can say FEV, but have issues with that point). In Fallout 4, the 'villain' I felt was Father and the Institute, but I never really got a clear idea of what their goal was in my playthrough. I think you have to specifically side with them to figure out what they plan to do (which I think was nuke the wasteland and repopulate it with synths or something). Fallout 3 felt like they gave random different people responsibility for each area; you had a Lovecraftian homage, you had sci-fi short stories in vault form, you had family drama, political humor etc. depending on which are you went to. They weren't deep, they didn't service the main plot in any way but they were fun short stories in location format. The main theme was muddled but along the way exploring you got some fun little things. I didn't care about the main plot (I found the dad by accident) but at least exploring meant something. Fallout 4 most of that was replaced with "quirky area where whatever happens ends as soon as you're spotted and they try and kill you". There were a few exceptions, but most of it was just set dressing for the next shootout. If they'd added a cohesive and compelling plot on top of that it'd be a reasonable tradeoff, but FO4 gave us neither. I pretty much gave up on the game when I got to the robot racetrack and after trying various things I finally went to gamefaqs and the answer was "basically once you're discovered they fight you". MonsieurChoc posted:(Why the gently caress didn't they have the elf sing when they arrive at Rivendell? Why the Goblin Town song last only a few seconds?) I sat through Lord of the Rings: The Musical back in the day. Believe me, that gets old quickly...
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Augus posted:The YouTube demonetization wounds are still fresh so I guess that takes priority? I almost 100% guarantee you, they purely homed in on "destroying family values" and "sexual degeneration" in her stupid spiel they keep using while ignoring everything else.
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Congrats Lindsey for getting tons of extra exposure for the Hobbit videos. It's well earned. https://www.polygon.com/2018/4/4/17198246/hobbit-movies-what-went-wrong
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stillvisions posted:Fallout 3 felt like they gave random different people responsibility for each area; you had a Lovecraftian homage, you had sci-fi short stories in vault form, you had family drama, political humor etc. depending on which are you went to. They weren't deep, they didn't service the main plot in any way but they were fun short stories in location format. The main theme was muddled but along the way exploring you got some fun little things. I didn't care about the main plot (I found the dad by accident) but at least exploring meant something. I think that's kinda just Bethesda's style. They really want you to be able to cruise through all the content everywhere at your own pace, and the easiest way to facilitate that is to just design everything isolated from everything else. It works fine enough in a high fantasy setting, but FO1 and 2 (and NV) are pretty fundamentally about society and social organization so that fractured way they do things really sticks out in 3 and 4 Augus posted:The YouTube demonetization wounds are still fresh so I guess that takes priority? Their bizarre rear end website also links some videos from Paul Joseph Watson so there might be some of that there too.
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One of the the retro-tech Youtubers I follow put up a video showing their editing process using Blender on Linux: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMlas9IEOyo
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That's exactly what did happen with Fallout 3 and 4 with regards to each zone feeling different. Todd Howard has gone on record saying that designers approach him with ideas on certain areas and he signs off on them with a carte blanche. So each person goes to Todd and then back to their own project. The trouble is that the connection only goes to Todd and not to other developers, and Todd seems pretty notorious for not being able to maintain consistency between his dev groups. So while you have a wealth of creativity you lack a consistency of quality and cohesiveness because Todd doesn't want to step on someone's toes but then these groups don't talk to each other. So you end up with one area being really well done right next to another area that was half-assed with no explanation for why they are right next door to one another. It's not as bad in fallout 4 since thy tried to make some interconnected zones with the various raider bases, but the quality swing is still in full effect. Bethesda's design ethos seems like Valve's "work on whatever you want" approach except with even less oversight or quality assurance.
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stillvisions posted:Fallout 3 felt like they gave random different people responsibility for each area; you had a Lovecraftian homage, you had sci-fi short stories in vault form, you had family drama, political humor etc. depending on which are you went to. They weren't deep, they didn't service the main plot in any way but they were fun short stories in location format. The main theme was muddled but along the way exploring you got some fun little things. I didn't care about the main plot (I found the dad by accident) but at least exploring meant something. Many of those places were meant to have quests but they got cut for time. The fighting arena where you meet Cait, for example, was supposed to be an arena of the fo3 variety where you could fight radscorpions and do some questing, but nope
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corn in the bible posted:Many of those places were meant to have quests but they got cut for time. The fighting arena where you meet Cait, for example, was supposed to be an arena of the fo3 variety where you could fight radscorpions and do some questing, but nope The other really obvious cut like this is the robot race track.
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So...who's Beth Elderkin? I'm blocked from seeing her.
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BigRed0427 posted:So...who's Beth Elderkin? I'm blocked from seeing her. She works for Gizmodo as per her profile and apparently was involved in some kind of comic CA was working on? I'll be honest I learned what CA is from this thread, I had heard of some of the individual creators but not the organization itself. I'm learning about this stuff as it happens.
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She co-hosted the show Shark Jumping, I believe.
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Bakeneko posted:She co-hosted the show Shark Jumping, I believe. Yeah she says that somewhere in the thread. EDIT: Marzgurl reacts to the non-apology Language gets really strong, understandably. Mokinokaro fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Apr 4, 2018 |
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