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actually HotS is the only good moba, not even kidding
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a bone to pick posted:actually HotS is the only good moba, not even kidding It does one really good thing: getting rid of items and having to learn literally dozens of crafting recipes for dozens of different heroes. Also different maps
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Apr 4, 2018 04:55
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Super Mario Bros 2 sucks and has always sucked and if it weren't for the Shy Guys and accidentally introducing Luigi and Peach float physics it would be a total waste of space.
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Apr 4, 2018 05:03
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Away all Goats posted:It does one really good thing: getting rid of items and having to learn literally dozens of crafting recipes for dozens of different heroes. Also because you don't have to put up with trash talking from 50% of the field.
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Apr 4, 2018 05:04
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mind the walrus posted:Super Mario Bros 2 sucks and has always sucked and if it weren't for the Shy Guys and accidentally introducing Luigi and Peach float physics it would be a total waste of space. The music rules
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Apr 4, 2018 05:06
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Away all Goats posted:It does one really good thing: getting rid of items and having to learn literally dozens of crafting recipes for dozens of different heroes. it does something no other moba has managed to do: be fun.
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Apr 4, 2018 05:10
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a bone to pick posted:it does something no other moba has managed to do: be fun. hots is a remote controlled toy car where the dota-style moba is a 700-part board game that might be more interesting than the RC car if you could get your friends to play it with you but no one loving cares
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a bone to pick posted:it does something no other moba has managed to do: be fun. Yeah. Different maps, somewhat more diverse win conditions on some maps and no more OP carry heroes (unless you count whatever new hero comes out for a month or so before nerf lol) Still a lovely moba but the best of the genre  Also specialist heroes rule and you don't need to autistically time every swing to get golds.
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Apr 4, 2018 16:53
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When MOBAs became popular it was the very first time I ever felt old and out-of-touch w/r/t video games.
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Jim Barris posted:When MOBAs became popular it was the very first time I ever felt old and out-of-touch w/r/t video games. wow for me, it was the first time inherently unfun and tedious gaming became the norm Dyna Soar fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Apr 4, 2018 |
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Apr 4, 2018 16:56
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Dyna Soar posted:wow for me Now see I don't like MMO's either but at least I "get" it. I like RPGs, I like numbers going up as a consequence of repetitive action. I just hate interacting with other gamers so I don't play multiplayer stuff. It seems like games really emphasize online multiplayer these days, that's another thing I don't get. To me the solitary nature of video games is part of the appeal.
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idk man, i thought that i'd get it before i tried an mmo but you didn't even really get to play those early ones, you just clicked on something now and then and your characters was on autopilot. it's gotten better over the years as internet speed has become less of a bottleneck but back then wow was like a screensaver. i mean wow is more like those mobile games with long cooldowns on everything you can do than an RPG.
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Apr 4, 2018 17:04
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I like mostly co-op stuff for multiplayer these days. Killing floor 2 is my co-op doom. Listening to podcasts about aliens while cruising around in ferraris with germans on assetto corsa practice servers is fun too. Any game where voice communication is expected is a no-go. MOBAs are the worst.
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Jim Barris posted:When MOBAs became popular it was the very first time I ever felt old and out-of-touch w/r/t video games.
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Dyna Soar posted:idk man, i thought that i'd get it before i tried an mmo but you didn't even really get to play those early ones, you just clicked on something now and then and your characters was on autopilot. it's gotten better over the years as internet speed has become less of a bottleneck but back then wow was like a screensaver. I agree but they've refined the hamster wheel down to a science so people get the good brain tingles from stuff in-game. That's why people play it, because they're addicted to it.
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Jim Barris posted:I agree but they've refined the hamster wheel down to a science so people get the good brain tingles from stuff in-game. That's why people play it, because they're addicted to it. sure, it's a lot more robust now, but originally when it came out it made me feel like gaming had changed and i was left behind. wow wasn't fun, it was tedious and boring! i was still playing baldur's gate 2, jagged alliance 2 and fallout 2 at that point. hell i'm still playing them
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The more realistic a game is, the more exponentially boring it becomes: inspired by this video from crowbcat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCeEvQ68jY8 Far Cry 2 had a bunch of neat little details that Far Cry 5 does not have. Do they make the game better? On the contrary. I remember constantly dealing with bushfires, gun jamming, the stupid map system, and being stuck in stupid animations; all those little details just made the game a drag to play and I never finished the game because I got sick of it. Also, graphics that chase realism never hold up as well as games that have their own style.
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See all those things that you hated about Far Cry 2, I loved. I felt those things added a sense of danger that wasn't readily predictable and that it upped the tension considerably.
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Apr 4, 2018 17:36
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signalnoise posted:
It's actually the opposite. If you're "bad" and don't understand the mechanics of the game, you end up having more fun because you don't understand when it's impossible to win. When you actually understand the game, you sometimes realize you lose at the pick screen/within the first 5 min and then spend another grueling 30 min losing until the game ends.
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Apr 4, 2018 17:40
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Jim Barris posted:See all those things that you hated about Far Cry 2, I loved. I felt those things added a sense of danger that wasn't readily predictable and that it upped the tension considerably. I feel like on their own, in a better game, they would work. Dealing with infinitely spawning enemies while the ground is constantly on fire, can't even shoot my gun while my partner dies of malaria was a lesson in patience.
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Apr 4, 2018 17:47
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old beast lunatic posted:I like mostly co-op stuff for multiplayer these days. Killing floor 2 is my co-op doom. Listening to podcasts about aliens while cruising around in ferraris with germans on assetto corsa practice servers is fun too. Any game where voice communication is expected is a no-go. Killing Floor 2 is great but you need to get some actual Doom mods because Doom is still something special. I recommend Heretical Doom or the ol' classic Brutal Doom to start. Heretical Doom is more fun than it has any right to be; it's not just Doom with heretic stuff and it's amazing as it constantly treads a line between "You are OP and this is too easy" and "holy gently caress I'm dead." I think my biggest issue with KF2 is that there's not enough modes that give you constant reason to move so it's more of a turret defense game than a FPS sometimes. I still like the game, because I like turret defense, but there's no denying this. ED: Also door welding is completely worthless when playing the game fairly, and when cheesing the gently caress out of it it's OP. A tip for you: Weld doors that you're not going to be near. The Zeds will always, always path to a different route if one is available. So if you like weld 3 doors in an upstairs area and leave one open, they ALL funnel through the one open one as long as you don't get close to the doors. You can strangle the wave spawn time doing it on some maps. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Apr 4, 2018 |
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Apr 4, 2018 17:50
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Once every few years I figure out what doom engines are current and get all the new popular doom stuff. I played brutal doom a few years ago and it did indeed own. I even found some multiplayer wad that played like killing floor with a vendor and waves of demons. I'm due to do that again soon I think. The only real use for the welder is to troll your teammates by welding them in a room full of zeds. 
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Apr 4, 2018 18:08
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Killing floor was fun (only played the first one) but drat did it get old after a few play throughs. Or on modded servers that played same lovely giant map...
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Apr 4, 2018 18:09
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rats was the best CS map by far
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old beast lunatic posted:Once every few years I figure out what doom engines are current and get all the new popular doom stuff. I played brutal doom a few years ago and it did indeed own. I even found some multiplayer wad that played like killing floor with a vendor and waves of demons. I'm due to do that again soon I think. Right now the one everyone uses is gzdoom. The latest version is real solid. There's a ton of great mods, and some interact well. The Doom 4 weapon mod works good with most other mods for example. ED: I can't endorse Heretical Doom (with the enemy mod) enough paired with a good map wad. You are REAL overpowered and REAL fragile; you can do stuff like stop time in mid fight, run around and fire 100 shots, then resume time and all 100 shots wipe out the room and can regenerate your own health instantly yet the game is still hard as balls. It's the most fun Doom mod I've had in a long time.
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Once upon a time I played some wad that had like every single enemy and weapon from every 2.5 D shooter ever randomly sprinkled around my doom maps. All the serious doom guys hated it but I thought it was rad as hell.
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a bone to pick posted:Also, graphics that chase realism never hold up as well as games that have their own style. This is why people still somewhat like the look of World of Warcraft, but when you look at Age of Conan or whatever else "wow-killer" that had "better graphics than that cartoon bullshit" it looks like hot GARB.
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Dr. Carwash posted:It's actually the opposite. If you're "bad" and don't understand the mechanics of the game, you end up having more fun because you don't understand when it's impossible to win. When you actually understand the game, you sometimes realize you lose at the pick screen/within the first 5 min and then spend another grueling 30 min losing until the game ends. If anything it's exceedingly obvious when you are losing a DOTA match, and exceedingly excruciating because DOTA players like to play with their food and extend games out. Dyna Soar posted:wow for me, it was the first time inherently unfun and tedious gaming became the norm DOTA and its direct clones are literally nothing but Warcraft 3 without base or troop management. In that way it's sort of elegant, as it gets to the only thing really unique about WC3 (at the time, anyway). However, people hate and fear change, so every effort was made by every developer to prevent the DOTA model from improving or significantly innovating until HOTS showed up. Between DOTA and WOW, what really annoyed me was almost every developer making games that looked like WoW (glowing cartoon characters surrounded by crystals) for 10 years.
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Dr. Carwash posted:It's actually the opposite. If you're "bad" and don't understand the mechanics of the game, you end up having more fun because you don't understand when it's impossible to win. When you actually understand the game, you sometimes realize you lose at the pick screen/within the first 5 min and then spend another grueling 30 min losing until the game ends. Nah that's just also bad
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Colonel Cancer posted:Killing floor was fun (only played the first one) but drat did it get old after a few play throughs. Or on modded servers that played same lovely giant map... Clearly you needed to play with some JP's. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtBjGinfegw&t=259s Twelve Batmans fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Apr 4, 2018 |
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The second Killing Floor is a way better game with way less of those "camp on monster-inaccessible terrain you weren't supposed to be able to reach" custom maps (but still tons of customs), but I burnt out on it hard after getting a lot of the classes to 25.
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Dyna Soar posted:
AKvColt was also really good. Rats, Assault, and Dust2 next best, tho.
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old beast lunatic posted:Once upon a time I played some wad that had like every single enemy and weapon from every 2.5 D shooter ever randomly sprinkled around my doom maps. All the serious doom guys hated it but I thought it was rad as hell. As someone who likes Doom way too much I can agree with you those mods are loving awesome.
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LoZ 1 is better than aLttP edit: phew, I'm in trouble now
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Alan 00X posted:LoZ 1 is better than aLttP Are those acronyms your unpopular opinion? I have no idea what you are talking about
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I wouldn't go that far but aLttP is so loving overrated. LoZ 2 is the best zelda game
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a bone to pick posted:I wouldn't go that far but aLttP is so loving overrated. Oh Zelda poo poo. (Legend of Zelda 1 is better btw) The best game with Link in it was Soul Calibur 2 on GameCube. Hey, this thread is for unpopular opinions and that's mine.
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Blazing Ownager posted:Are those acronyms your unpopular opinion? Zelda A Link to the Past is overrated, and I like Zelda 1 better
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Blazing Ownager posted:Oh Zelda poo poo. as a long time Zelda fan, I can't really honestly fault you there
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Blazing Ownager posted:As someone who likes Doom way too much I can agree with you those mods are loving awesome. Found the one I was thinking of. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHtvc8O3i3o
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