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JonBolds posted:How do I actually kill these assholes? They're like 15-20 z-levels above the ground at all times. Do I train up a squad of marksdwarves and just pray they come within range one day? Well see there's your problem. No reason to ever let the game simulate space more than 4 or 5 levels above ground. Nothing but trouble. You could build a series of catwalks since dwarf constructions have infinite strength. A staircase going to within a few levels of the the 'top' of the map, and from there build out floors. You can even build a series of archery targets and bolt stockpiles up there, so marksdwarfs will hang out in the sky practicing. Archery targets around the perimeter, bolt stockpile at the top of the stairs. Melee would be dangerous since an ill placed dodge would hurt, but nothing that wants to fight can get up there without first fighting their way to the staircase. Just wounding a birdman should be enough to knock it out of the sky. Then build a tavern or something up there, stave off cave adaptation. I dunno.
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Haifisch posted:Either that or Toady just makes them peace out to start a tower of their own. I might prefer this as a short term solution. It gives necromantic tomes(and anywhere that might house them) a serious risk factor, as your elite squad of steel clad raiders could end up as far worse foes than some skinny human that used to own the book.
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Does anyone know if you put books in a display case, will they still get read?
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Is it wrong to be way more interested in the pre-magic/myth arc candidates? I mean, come on, real armies, conquest and world map interaction, people really doing things, ect. It seems like it's more of a fundamental shift in the way the game is played.
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I liked that interview. I want some more quality of life upgrades to be honest
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If we could just migrate all of this into the rimworld engine I'd play so much more I've probably put at least a hundred hours into this game and I'd love to put in more but Jesus Christ is it a pain to get anything done
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NewMars posted:Is it wrong to be way more interested in the pre-magic/myth arc candidates? I mean, come on, real armies, conquest and world map interaction, people really doing things, ect. It seems like it's more of a fundamental shift in the way the game is played. Not really. I want more stuff to do in Fortress mode, in the fortress. World map interaction is basically a black box, and I don't really care about black boxes.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Not really. I want more stuff to do in Fortress mode, in the fortress. World map interaction is basically a black box, and I don't really care about black boxes. Yeah, the war and raiding and stuff I don't really care about, I want fun mechanics that I can see happen.
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kidkissinger posted:If we could just migrate all of this into the rimworld engine I'd play so much more I just Rimworld would just go 3d so that I could play it instead.
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I like the 2d environment, having restricted space in that way is good for gameplay I think.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Not really. I want more stuff to do in Fortress mode, in the fortress. World map interaction is basically a black box, and I don't really care about black boxes. Yeah... A lot of the new world stuff is fun and all but it is also a lot of fluff that doesn't fundamentally change how fortress mode plays. What's that, the sieges are generated from a specific location and travel across the map to get to me instead of being genned on the spot as needed? Cool, but so what? It's framework for other stuff though.
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I forget, how do you control the number of layers that are rendered above ground?
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So Math posted:I forget, how do you control the number of layers that are rendered above ground? It's in the advanced world settings, and I think there's a DFhack command that can edit it after the fact as well.
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So, considering the LNP is still on 44.05, what's the difference between that version and 44.09? Mostly bugfixes and the like, I hope? I'm really trying to look for reasons to not get sucked down the rabbit hole and play another fort here, but the urge is strong.
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neogeo0823 posted:So, considering the LNP is still on 44.05, what's the difference between that version and 44.09? Mostly bugfixes and the like, I hope? I'm really trying to look for reasons to not get sucked down the rabbit hole and play another fort here, but the urge is strong. 44.06 added pillaging, chain cleaning jobs, and FPS increases. 44.08 makes dwarves actually want to visit museum zones. The rest fix some crashes and weird behaviour, and bugfixes to things broken in the previous updates. DFHack has an alpha out now for 44.09.
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Still on 44.07 but the DFHack alpha for that hasn't caused any issues. I don't do much special with it (really, 99% about the cursor being in the same spot I left it!) so I don't know if you run custom scripts or anything if it will go haywire.
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I never used DFHack before my turn in the LP, but now I'm ruined from being able to filter pretty much any list screen. The civ screen desperately needs the same treatment, but I understand that taking longer.
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So Math posted:44.06 added pillaging, chain cleaning jobs, and FPS increases. 44.08 makes dwarves actually want to visit museum zones. The rest fix some crashes and weird behaviour, and bugfixes to things broken in the previous updates. Hm, thankfully, that's enough to make me wanna wait till it gets to the current version.
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I'm waiting for VR support to get back into it.
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Would abandoning a fort of 80+ necromancers have any appreciable effect on the world in general? I'd like to imagine they scatter and do their own necromancer things while time advances, but I suspect necromancers only settle down during worldgen.
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ILL Machina posted:I'm waiting for VR support to get back into it.
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YouTube mini-documentary series On Doubt has a new video with the Adams brothers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtKmLciKO30 Bonus clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxhEhciTdAk Alehkhs fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Apr 5, 2018 |
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psst hey kids https://github.com/DFHack/dfhack/releases/tag/0.44.09-r1
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More bonus footage from the On Doubt feature, via the newest devlog: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mgUeJkALEE
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I started up a new fort for the first time in forever. Struggling to keep my head above water because I've had, like, 60 or 70 people come join my fort to "eradicate monsters". I have less than half that many dwarves. Most of them don't even go eradicating, they just stand around in the library all day. Even after I removed the activity zone. I tried to fill in the room with walls, but now they're all standing on the few remaining tiles and I can't seem to get the last 5 or 6 tiles built on. Is this par for the course these days?
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Fenn the Fool! posted:I started up a new fort for the first time in forever. Struggling to keep my head above water because I've had, like, 60 or 70 people come join my fort to "eradicate monsters". I have less than half that many dwarves. Most of them don't even go eradicating, they just stand around in the library all day. Even after I removed the activity zone. I tried to fill in the room with walls, but now they're all standing on the few remaining tiles and I can't seem to get the last 5 or 6 tiles built on. Is this par for the course these days? Did you grab the latest build? There was a serious problem with unrestricted visitors a few versions back. I ended up with a fortress that was 60 dwarves to over 200 guests, personally.
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quote:nemesis unit load error Whoa, that's the error that usually kills off my worlds if I keep them more than one fort! Fenn the Fool! posted:I started up a new fort for the first time in forever. Struggling to keep my head above water because I've had, like, 60 or 70 people come join my fort to "eradicate monsters". I have less than half that many dwarves. Most of them don't even go eradicating, they just stand around in the library all day. Even after I removed the activity zone. I tried to fill in the room with walls, but now they're all standing on the few remaining tiles and I can't seem to get the last 5 or 6 tiles built on. Is this par for the course these days? Monster fighters are useless food consumers 99% of the time and kill off random things in the caverns the other 1%. I only keep one on staff and that's just to play around with them, usually they get beat to death by troglodytes pretty quickly but they'll slow them down enough to get your squads down there to kill them if you don't have multiple layers of cage traps set up yet. I honestly don't know if they try to become citizens because I've never had one live that long. Current fort rescued a random goblin and a goblin drunk (lol, I know this is some adventure mode definition but it is still hilarious!) The drunk puts in hard work hauling stuff while the random goblin can no longer help as he took on a squad of invading humans by himself and lost the ability to grasp things.
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I just used the latest LNP, so probably not the most recent version. If you don't accept their petition to stay do they leave eventually? Do they still eat and drink poo poo in the meantime? edit: Can I just slap the newest version of DF into the LNP folder or do I have to wait for everything to get updated? Fenn the Fool! fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Apr 7, 2018 |
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They should leave immediately after being rejected, monster hunters were lowest on the meeting priority queue which means they'll hang around a while eating your stuff before they ask to join (that may have been among the fixes in the last two versions, but I haven't tried them yet)
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I'm reading a book on new media theory and the authors argue for new forms of art that emphasize the procedural and technical (rather than the literary or visual, for example). For me that's what Dwarf Fortress is. Armok is an authentic vision of god as an uncaring random number generator lording over a world characterized by random violence, fuckups and the pleasure of repeatedly loving up.
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Windows LNP Updated to 0.44.09-r01 http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=126076.msg7731197#msg7731197 http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=7622
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Alehkhs posted:More bonus footage from the On Doubt feature, via the newest devlog: dang that's pretty nice
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I'm getting back into the game after several years of not playing it, and I have a question. Can you use conditions to get work orders to interrupt themselves, or are conditions only checked when a work order is begun? Like, I want to make it so I have a certain number of prepared meals in my fort at all times, without going over that number. Could I set my kitchen on a work order like "prepare infinite lavish meals, restarts if completed, conditions checked daily, with the condition of 'amount of unrotten prepared meals available is at most x'" to accomplish that?
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Pakled posted:I'm getting back into the game after several years of not playing it, and I have a question. The way I do that is "when less than (target number) is available, make (20% of target number)" I just made what is apparently my first beach fort because I don't think I've ever seen the waves crashing ashore yet. Real nice.
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Pakled posted:I'm getting back into the game after several years of not playing it, and I have a question. I think you need DFHack to do this, the vanilla conditions system is pretty useless. e: well except for making orders wait for other orders before trying to activate, like when you're doing a whole production chain by order Tuxedo Catfish fucked around with this message at 23:25 on Apr 8, 2018 |
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Shibawanko posted:I'm reading a book on new media theory and the authors argue for new forms of art that emphasize the procedural and technical (rather than the literary or visual, for example). For me that's what Dwarf Fortress is. Armok is an authentic vision of god as an uncaring random number generator lording over a world characterized by random violence, fuckups and the pleasure of repeatedly loving up. DF had an exhibit in New York’s Museum of Modern Art for a bit.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:I think you need DFHack to do this, the vanilla conditions system is pretty useless. I really am baffled at how complicated it is and yet at the same time so utterly useless for basic things like "when at 50 drinks make more until 200 drinks." Oh well.
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Tars Tarkas posted:Current fort rescued a random goblin and a goblin drunk (lol, I know this is some adventure mode definition but it is still hilarious!) The drunk puts in hard work hauling stuff while the random goblin can no longer help as he took on a squad of invading humans by himself and lost the ability to grasp things. "Drunks" are non-dwarves that decide to try to be dwarves. They're "drunks" because that of course means giving up drinking anything that isn't booze. Dwarves are of course fine with drinking nothing but booze but non-dwarves are...well, less so. So what you have on your hands there is a goblin that wants to be a dwarf. I'm sure you can see the humor in that situation.
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