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hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
Communism is the worst idea people have ever had.

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syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

WarpedNaba posted:

In an unintended positive note, they now emulate the actual rivers far more accurately than if they had used water.



:nattyburn:

Bajaj
Sep 13, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

hakimashou posted:

Communism is the worst idea people have ever had.
But, you see, it has never been implemented prope

Popoto
Oct 21, 2012

miaow

CIGNX posted:

Part of the logic behind these harebrained schemes was to come up with the most "red" scheme in order to prove yourself sufficiently revolutionary, which meant you could gain power and influence. If I remember correctly, there were times where one side who had the most "red" idea would then claim a rival faction was counter-revolutionary and revisionist for failing to think up the "red" idea themselves. At best the loser falls out of favor, but more likely they would suffer a struggle session and then possibly be executed

So you'd get this competition to prove who was the most hardcore communist among very cynical and greedy people, with the loser having a reasonable chance of getting killed.

Sounds like the french revolution

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

CIGNX posted:

Part of the logic behind these harebrained schemes was to come up with the most "red" scheme in order to prove yourself sufficiently revolutionary, which meant you could gain power and influence. If I remember correctly, there were times where one side who had the most "red" idea would then claim a rival faction was counter-revolutionary and revisionist for failing to think up the "red" idea themselves. At best the loser falls out of favor, but more likely they would suffer a struggle session and then possibly be executed

So you'd get this competition to prove who was the most hardcore communist among very cynical and greedy people, with the loser having a reasonable chance of getting killed.

The best part is that nobody from the Red Guard was ever rewarded beyond being allowed to kill a few teachers and ransack some homes. The Government elite were made up of people who were born before the war (the first one) and it wasn't until they started dieing that their kids replaced them. Your average Red Guard ran wild for a few years then were thrown to the curb (if they were lucky). In some cases they even tried to take on the PLA, and naturally (taking on an actual fighting force who were armed and who still had vets from Korea in their ranks) ended up getting owned pretty badly. Near the end of the cultural revolution the PLA were actually killing Red Guards en masse via mass executions.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

StarMinstrel posted:

Sounds like the french revolution

Sounds like D&D, only with death instead of banning.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

StarMinstrel posted:

Sounds like the french revolution

Only in this case Louis XVI started the confusion to have all his smarter friends killed, and it ended with him being firmly entrenched as the leader for life with massive public support. This was basically Mao's one idea that actually worked as he planned.

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

hakimashou posted:

Communism is the worst idea people have ever had.

but twitter told me it’s never been properly implemented

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Whenever I hear about Communism, I always remember that wonderful little insight into human nature.

Terry Pratchett posted:

Some had been ordinary people who'd had enough. Some were young people with no money who objected to the fact that the world was run by old people who were rich. Some were in it to get girls. And some had been idiots as mad as Swing, with a view of the world just as rigid and unreal, who were on the side of what they called 'the people'. Vimes had spent his life on the streets, and had met decent men and fools and people who'd steal a penny from a blind beggar and people who performed silent miracles or desperate crimes every day behind the grubby windows of little houses, but he'd never met The People.

People on the side of The People always ended up disappointed, in any case. They found that The People tended not to be grateful or appreciative or forward-thinking or obedient. The People tended to be small-minded and conservative and not very clever and were even distrustful of cleverness. And so the children of the revolution were faced with the age-old problem: it wasn't that you had the wrong kind of government, which was obvious, but that you had the wrong kind of people.
As soon as you saw people as things to be measured, they didn't measure up.

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe
Just because Vimes eschews wealth and privilege doesn't mean he's not swimming in it

I like the guy, just saiyan

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
His city and his squad is his wealth, his wife and his son are his privilege.

Bajaj
Sep 13, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
Chinese fisherman operating in the Philippine's waters Nine-Dash South China Sea water saw this bad rear end endangered Whale Shark and thought about how hard their dicks could get if they could eat its fin in some soup. RIP, Mr. Biggest Fish on the Planet.



Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
I'm guessing the water cooling their legs is the only reason why no one has their shirt up over their gut?

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


I’m always surprised they don’t skin the whole shark and sell the skin as fake sharkfins.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

hakimashou posted:

Communism is the worst idea people have ever had.

I mean, most people would probably say Nazism is worse

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


feedmegin posted:

I mean, most people would probably say Nazism is worse

People badmouth Nazism but why don't leftie liberals ever have to account for Stalin's crimes?

underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747

barbecue at the folks posted:

People badmouth Nazism but why don't leftie liberals ever have to account for Stalin's crimes?

lol

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

barbecue at the folks posted:

People badmouth Nazism but why don't leftie liberals ever have to account for Stalin's crimes?

Hi dad

Media Bloodbath
Mar 1, 2018

PIVOT TO ETERNAL SUFFERING
:hb:

Bajaj posted:

Chinese fisherman operating in the Philippine's waters Nine-Dash South China Sea water saw this bad rear end endangered Whale Shark and thought about how hard their dicks could get if they could eat its fin in some soup. RIP, Mr. Biggest Fish on the Planet.





Looks even like kiddie whale shark :rip:

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

hakimashou posted:

Communism is the worst idea people have ever had.

actually, communism is good

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


Jeoh posted:

actually, communism is good

I would say 70% good, 30% the worst

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


Authoritarian socialism like maoism and marxism-leninism and whatever juche is arw garbage but democratic socialism can and does work and is good. The prc is cancer and every thing russia touched and professed was as well.

Cry Havoc
May 10, 2004

This cyberpunk cartoon avatar is pretty dang ol' good, I tell you what.

Bajaj posted:

Chinese fisherman operating in the Philippine's waters Nine-Dash South China Sea water saw this bad rear end endangered Whale Shark and thought about how hard their dicks could get if they could eat its fin in some soup. RIP, Mr. Biggest Fish on the Planet.





p poo poo job removing all of the fin too

Media Bloodbath
Mar 1, 2018

PIVOT TO ETERNAL SUFFERING
:hb:

basic hitler posted:

Authoritarian socialism like maoism and marxism-leninism and whatever juche is arw garbage but democratic socialism can and does work and is good. The prc is cancer and every thing russia touched and professed was as well.

Username post combo level is insane.

But I agree, Democratic socialism is great. But if you look at most European states people seem to rather vote for parties that gently caress over everyone as long as said party sticks it to "the immigrants" than vote for a party that'd improve their lives.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Europe has at best some social democrats but no democratic socialism.

Heffer
May 1, 2003

Media Bloodbath posted:

Username post combo level is insane.

But I agree, Democratic socialism is great. But if you look at most European states people seem to rather vote for parties that gently caress over everyone as long as said party sticks it to "the immigrants" than vote for a party that'd improve their lives.

It's a less fortunate/more fortunate divide. The lesser half could blame globalization, government policies, aging, etc but they listen to the people who blame immigrants because its an easy excuse that appeals to their tummy feels.

A really interesting look is the hard divide between what was East and West Germany.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/10/31/the-berlin-wall-fell-25-years-ago-but-germany-is-still-divided/


Even though they receive fewer immigrants per capita, the former east germans still heavily support the right wing parties due to unfavorable economic conditions.


BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....
https://twitter.com/NinjaEconomics/status/981546938406404096

So to turns out the crazy time Baja experienced dating actually has it own term.

quote:

In an effort to make the men they are dating feel honoured and respected, educated women often find themselves playing down their smarts. June says she switches between two distinct modes, Chinese girl or overseas returnee with an Ivy League degree. Her friends tell her that is not enough: she needs to be versed in the ancient art of sajiao, or the strategically executed temper tantrum, an indispensable element in the dating arsenal of every Chinese woman.

“A woman who knows how to sajiao knows how to make a man happy,” declared an article in the Chinese edition of Psychologies magazine in 2012. Sajiao involves pouting, mewling and the stomping of feet. That doesn’t sound attractive. Yet in a rapidly changing social and economic environment, it has become a critical skill for maintaining a sense of continuity and order in gender relations by helping a Chinese man feel loved, honoured, chivalrous and, above all, manly. “For the competent career woman, sajiao is an indispensable tool for appearing neither too independent nor too self-sufficient for her boyfriend,” says another Chinese magazine article. “Sajiao allows her to appear soft and feminine rather than hard and powerful, traits that challenge traditional notions of womanhood. By playing up to the male ego, she accomplishes the near-impossible: making her man feel like a man.”

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Sajiao has been a thing for a while and its loving infuriating.

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

someone introduce jojo to lazyb


That sounds like it'd get old rather quickly

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

ThatBasqueGuy posted:

That sounds like it'd get old rather quickly

5000 years old very quickly

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

How does throwing a tantrum and making ridiculous demands and playing ridiculous games make a chinese dude feel manly? Doesn't it just make them jump off mall walkways and kick open closed elevator doors to escape the madness?

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Baronjutter posted:

How does throwing a tantrum and making ridiculous demands and playing ridiculous games make a chinese dude feel manly? Doesn't it just make them jump off mall walkways and kick open closed elevator doors to escape the madness?

It makes your partner seem more child like, like you need to be the adult and make decisions and the direction of their lives. Its basically a high pitched sub/dom relationship that never stops*.

*while together. Claws come right the gently caress out when the man goes away.

Bajaj
Sep 13, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

Baronjutter posted:

How does throwing a tantrum and making ridiculous demands and playing ridiculous games make a chinese dude feel manly? Doesn't it just make them jump off mall walkways and kick open closed elevator doors to escape the madness?
They kick open their wallets to provide for her. Being a provider is super manly and all that a man is good for in China in the eyes of in-laws and women. If he can't provide, is he even a man? Absolutely not! Men are only worth their numbers of height, houses, cars, and Renminbi. It's a glorious society.

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse

Media Bloodbath posted:

Username post combo level is insane.

But I agree, Democratic socialism is great. But if you look at most European states people seem to rather vote for parties that gently caress over everyone as long as said party sticks it to "the immigrants" than vote for a party that'd improve their lives.

It's a deep level of retardation brought about by the same poo poo yellow press, internet feverswamps and reality tv, because people have no reference how good they have it. You'd need to live in a really poo poo country like the US or some other hole to appreciate universal healthcare, nice public transportation, public safety etc.

Grevling
Dec 18, 2016

Power Khan posted:

It's a deep level of retardation brought about by the same poo poo yellow press, internet feverswamps and reality tv, because people have no reference how good they have it. You'd need to live in a really poo poo country like the US or some other hole to appreciate universal healthcare, nice public transportation, public safety etc.

The people who are dismantling the institutions that provide these things are also careful to make sure everybody's talking about immigrants.

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse
Yes, that's how you stoke fear and make the lower strata vote for you.

Devils Affricate
Jan 22, 2010
lol @ the mental gymnastics involved in the person who throws fake tantrums in public like a child so you can feel like the responsible adult in the relationship being the one who cooks all your food and does your laundry when you get home

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug
Sajiao is so loving creepy.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Ceciltron posted:

Sajiao is so loving creepy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc9uGg6IErI

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mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants
I think communism might not be bad if it was under a democratic government instead of a dictatorship.

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