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David D. Davidson posted:EDIT: Also just in case, so what would people say if Marvel announced that Nic Cage was going to play Beta Ray Bill in Thor 4? I dunno if the MCU has someone I would point to as a bad casting decision so far, so whatever. I trust them. Samuringa posted:If I get a sixer it's on you Come on.
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Beta Ray Bill would be all CG, and Keith David would be his voice. If you were to cast Nic Cage in a Marvel role, he'd be Edit: Hey here's a Deadpool thing. gently caress Cancer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKpvjqDsTcU Jamesman fucked around with this message at 06:03 on Apr 4, 2018 |
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SonicRulez posted:I dunno if the MCU has someone I would point to as a bad casting decision so far, so whatever. I trust them.
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I've never been a fan of Superman being portrayed as a Christ-like figure, it just feels so tasteless. Even more so when it's crammed in a movie where the climax involves punching a giant cave troll.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:If you include TV (and it's fair enough if you don't) then Finn Jones is the obvious pick for a bad casting choice. He's not bad, he just had bad material to work with.
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Jamesman posted:He's not bad, he just had bad material to work with. And not a lot of training time which is why his martial arts all look like he's doing tai chi in the park. He's apparently pretty committed to training like the entire time between seasons 1 and 2 to fix that poo poo. Of course no amount of martial arts can fix Iron Fist unless they take it away from Scott Buck.
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theironjef posted:And not a lot of training time which is why his martial arts all look like he's doing tai chi in the park. He's apparently pretty committed to training like the entire time between seasons 1 and 2 to fix that poo poo. Of course no amount of martial arts can fix Iron Fist unless they take it away from Scott Buck. I thought they did boot Buck?
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Jamesman posted:If you were to cast Nic Cage in a Marvel role, he'd be Here's his audition tape.
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Aphrodite posted:Snyder said the reason Batman makes a spear instead of something more modern (like a bullet) is 'cause Jesus. Okay yeah, I mean that's the obvious allegory. Buy I thought it was because the film that young Bruce watched before his parents were killed was the 1981 Excalibur.
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The Question IRL posted:Okay yeah, I mean that's the obvious allegory. Just think - in 10 years the movie he'll be leaving with his parents will probably have been The Passion of the Christ.
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Back in the early 2010's, the joke was Bruce had gone to see the Antonio Bandaras Zorro film when his parents were killed. In a few years it will have been a screening of Iron-man that the Wayne's went to see.
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SonicRulez posted:I dunno if the MCU has someone I would point to as a bad casting decision so far, so whatever. I trust them. Cumberbatch. Also every CGI or makeup villain, but because they’re wasting good actors.
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I warmed to Cumberbatch. Mark Ruffalo? Fire the fucker into space and give me Norton back you underhanded pieces of poo poo
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Ed Norton is a whiny impossible to work with douchebag.
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Ruffalo is an amazing Banner you're crazy
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Ruffalo is an okay actor and a mediocre Banner, but the contrast between their performances is night and dayAphrodite posted:Ed Norton is a whiny impossible to work with douchebag. pretend I posted a  so big it broke the tables. also lol
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Arist posted:Ruffalo is an amazing Banner you're crazy
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Aphrodite posted:Ed Norton is a whiny impossible to work with douchebag. In what capacity have you worked with Mr. Norton?
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Deserved or not (I have no clue), Norton absolutely has a reputation for being difficult to work with.
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Aphrodite posted:Cumberbatch. Cumberbatch would have been fine with his native accent.
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You know, the whole Superman as Christ thing that Snyder and other writers are big on always felt kind of... appropriative to me, given he was a creation of two Jewish writers as a response to the idea of a racist ubermensch and the fact his backstory has more in common with Moses than the Messiah.
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Nodosaur posted:You know, the whole Superman as Christ thing that Snyder and other writers are big on always felt kind of... appropriative to me, given he was a creation of two Jewish writers as a response to the idea of a racist ubermensch and the fact his backstory has more in common with Moses than the Messiah.
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It's not that it's hard, it's just it feels kind of messed up to do it given his conceptual origins.
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Samuringa posted:If I get a sixer it's on you I have found that a brick to the face is preferable to being subtle if you want your viewers to "get" it and to reinforce your ideas as to avoid weird or clearly not intended interpretations of your work. For instance interpretations like "sucker punch is sexist because it sexualizes the female leads" or "black panther celebrated heroic CIA agent tthat conspires with illegitimate ruler to stage a coup, start a civil war and murders black pilots aiding liberation of opressed black people" are presumably not the intent of the authors, and the movies might have benefited from some reinforcement of their ideas
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McCloud posted:I have found that a brick to the face is preferable to being subtle if you want your viewers to "get" it and to reinforce your ideas as to avoid weird or clearly not intended interpretations of your work.
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Arist posted:Wrong thread This is the comic book movie thread, in the comic book forum. You'll find that this is exactly the correct thread
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Cumberbatch would have been fine with his native accent. I wonder whose idea it was that he should be doing his Harrison Ford impression when Cumberbatch's voice is one of the big parts of his brand.
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McCloud posted:This is the comic book movie thread, in the comic book forum. You'll find that this is exactly the correct thread That post was not in reference to you, my dude
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Endless Mike posted:No one has ever accused Snyder of being subtle. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSG-6xc-T4U What does this mean? What is Snyder trying to say here? 
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Chill Penguin posted:In what capacity have you worked with Mr. Norton? I asked him a couple of questions once. Otherwise, I know several people who have. They film lots of movies here.
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Arist posted:That post was not in reference to you, my dude Cool, my bad. Endless Mike posted:No one has ever accused Snyder of being subtle. No, they do however jump to conclusions such as "his superman is an objectivist that doesn't care about people". The point is that if you don't constantly reinforce your themes and ideas, audience will interpret your work in ways you don't intend or mean to, and sometimes you need to be as subtle as a drat brick to the face to get your point across. Nodosaur posted:It's not that it's hard, it's just it feels kind of messed up to do it given his conceptual origins. White people do this all the time. Wonder Womans myth was given a very christian makeover in her movie, Disney's Hercules had a very sanitized remake to make it more palatable to western audiences etc etc. They relate more to the Jesus character than anyone else and after some 75 years of stories its safe to say he's equal parts moses and jesus at this point.
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McCloud posted:No, they do however jump to conclusions such as "his superman is an objectivist that doesn't care about people". The point is that if you don't constantly reinforce your themes and ideas, audience will interpret your work in ways you don't intend or mean to, and sometimes you need to be as subtle as a drat brick to the face to get your point across.
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Samuringa posted:If I get a sixer it's on you Wait so is Snyder saying that Bruce Wayne thought Superman was like Jesus, because I kinda don't think that was his opinion. EDIT: Or is Snyder saying that having the spear produces the dramatic irony of Batman not realising Superman is like Jesus, because just like Jesus, a man well remembered for being killed by a spear, Superman is fought with a spear, not killed by it, then uses the spear to stab a bad guy. Or is Snyder saying Doomsday is like Jesus Fangz fucked around with this message at 15:24 on Apr 4, 2018 |
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"Christian legend has it that Longinus was a blind Roman centurion who thrust the spear into Christ’s side at the crucifixion. Some of Jesus’s blood fell upon his eyes and he was healed. Upon this miracle Longinus believed in Jesus.[10]" Batman was blinded, hurt Superman, realized the error of his way and became a believer of Superman.
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If you're getting blood in your eyes that's terrible spear form.
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why the gently caress would they give a spear to a blind guy
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HEY BLIND GUY take this huge weapon and stab the guy you can't see over there
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It's a little-known fact that this is the origin of the pinata. Instead of gaining your eyesight, you get delicious candy.
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Fartbox posted:why the gently caress would they give a spear to a blind guy In the original version of the story, he was just a nameless guy that stabbed Jesus when he was already dead, to make sure. In later versions he was a named guy who stabbed Jesus and was *cursed with blindness* as a result. 12 century sources invented the version where Longinus was healed from blindness, *and you can too, if you purchase the use of the Holy Sponge*... Stabbing crucification victims was an act of mercy, btw. Fangz fucked around with this message at 15:51 on Apr 4, 2018 |
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