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Thanks to an innovative new privatization policy Michigan is going to be administered by CCP. btw that low fi hip hop beats stuff is just electronic jazz/R&B and there's nothing particularly good or bad about liking it vaporwave is electronic R&B but extremely kitsch for some reason Arglebargle III fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Apr 4, 2018 |
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Vaporwave is basically just elevator music but self aware.
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I’m confused and disturbed by these pieces of internet culture created by children on youtube post 2010 that are reminding me I’m old now
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Soviet Commubot posted:I don't know why but for some reason Michigan just breaks some map-makers' brains. They have no idea where to put it. "Hmm, I really want to split the Northeast into two sub-categories, but gosh I've only heard of a Mid-Atlantic, not sure how else to categorize things. At the very least I'm sure splitting New Jersey from New York is a sensible choice."
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There's a lot of stupid maps in this thread and damned if that isn't one of them
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 Percentage of people who believe their country is headed in the right direction, January 2018.
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Why does that map template have Greater Morocco and the SADR?
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Guavanaut posted:Why does that map template have Greater Morocco and the SADR? Because it has the courage not to lie to you.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Because it has the courage not to lie to you. Finnaly.
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Missouri is such an oddball when it comes to regional categorization. North of the Missouri River it's indistinguishable from Iowa, so putting it with the plains states kind of makes sense. South of the Missouri River and especially the Ozarks is indistinguishable from Arkansas and it wouldn't be crazy to categorize it as the South. Then the eastern edge of the state and especially St. Louis is as rust belt as it gets and fits with the midwest.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Because it has the courage not to lie to you. *looks at Crimea* i mean...
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Soviet Commubot posted:
Fun fact: if the UP were part of Wisconsin and the Florida panhandle were part of Alabama, Trump would have lost.
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Sulphagnist posted:Fun fact: if the UP were part of Wisconsin and the Florida panhandle were part of Alabama, Trump would have lost. I'm not having fun and this fact isn't helping 
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Family Values posted:Missouri is such an oddball when it comes to regional categorization. North of the Missouri River it's indistinguishable from Iowa, so putting it with the plains states kind of makes sense. South of the Missouri River and especially the Ozarks is indistinguishable from Arkansas and it wouldn't be crazy to categorize it as the South. Then the eastern edge of the state and especially St. Louis is as rust belt as it gets and fits with the midwest. Congrats. You've figured out that state lines feel arbitrary. But beware - it's a gateway drug. Soon you'll be making your own maps based on your personal opinions and giving the new states ridiculous names. My fever dream for first level administrative areas. 
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xrunner posted:Congrats. You've figured out that state lines feel arbitrary. But beware - it's a gateway drug. Soon you'll be making your own maps based on your personal opinions and giving the new states ridiculous names. Watersheds are the complete opposite of "personal opinion".
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Whiz Palace posted:Watersheds are the complete opposite of "personal opinion". Using them as borders for administrative areas - as opposed to any of the countless other options - is though.
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Family Values posted:Missouri is such an oddball when it comes to regional categorization. North of the Missouri River it's indistinguishable from Iowa, so putting it with the plains states kind of makes sense. South of the Missouri River and especially the Ozarks is indistinguishable from Arkansas and it wouldn't be crazy to categorize it as the South. Then the eastern edge of the state and especially St. Louis is as rust belt as it gets and fits with the midwest. Also the worst parts of the Civil War happened there, things that we don't usually associate with American history.
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Family Values posted:Missouri is such an oddball when it comes to regional categorization. North of the Missouri River it's indistinguishable from Iowa, so putting it with the plains states kind of makes sense. South of the Missouri River and especially the Ozarks is indistinguishable from Arkansas and it wouldn't be crazy to categorize it as the South. Then the eastern edge of the state and especially St. Louis is as rust belt as it gets and fits with the midwest. I grew up in Missouri, and it's definitely an oddity. STL is the western most eastern city, KC is the eastern most western city, everything north of Moberly is the plains, south of Moberly and north of Jeff City is the Midwest, and south of Jeff City is the South.
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Whiz Palace posted:Watersheds are the complete opposite of "personal opinion". LMAO welcome to the Trump Era
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Next up: Putin tells Trump he has to stop the Nazis from taking over the world.
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xrunner posted:Congrats. You've figured out that state lines feel arbitrary. But beware - it's a gateway drug. Soon you'll be making your own maps based on your personal opinions and giving the new states ridiculous names. And why exactly do you think water resource areas make good first level administrative areas.
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Grape posted:And why exactly do you think water resource areas make good first level administrative areas. The usual argument is that regions will not have to make water-sharing agreements that are likely to create ecologically damaging incentives.
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Bongo Bill posted:The usual argument is that regions will not have to make water-sharing agreements that are likely to create ecologically damaging incentives. That, and also it's far less likely (although as you can see from the map still possible) to split urban areas into multiple top level jurisdictions like we currently have going on. Population centers tends to develop along waterways, so it's pretty idiotic to use waterways as borders unless you want to split the population. This avoids that and puts the borders up in the least populated areas. I mean, it's not perfect but I think it would work out better than what we have. Obviously you'd want to get rid of non-proportional representation in the Senate at the same time, but if you're already somehow redrawing state lines that's not really a huge problem.
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xrunner posted:Population centers tends to develop along waterways, you're not wrong, but industrial era cities sometimes develop at the borders of watersheds because the ridgelines that delineate them are excellent places for railroads
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xrunner posted:That, and also it's far less likely (although as you can see from the map still possible) to split urban areas into multiple top level jurisdictions like we currently have going on. Population centers tends to develop along waterways, so it's pretty idiotic to use waterways as borders unless you want to split the population. This avoids that and puts the borders up in the least populated areas. This is assuming a very pre-modern profile of how the US population density actually is, yes waterways explain the foundations of just about every urban center. But the growth of metro areas do not follow along that same logic, especially into the age of the interstate system. Or the information economy for that matter. This isn't at all matching up to the idea of Megaregions for instance, where people have actually mapped how these areas are interconnected population wise. http://www.america2050.org/megaregions.html
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Grape posted:This is assuming a very pre-modern profile of how the US population density actually is, yes waterways explain the foundations of just about every urban center. But the growth of metro areas do not follow along that same logic, especially into the age of the interstate system. Or the information economy for that matter. Sure. It's not perfect, and I think there are areas it breaks down - especially the northeast and the great-lakes/ohio and the gulf coast. But It ties control of one of the most contentious cross border resources together with a broad overlay of population and cities. I'm not going to go to war or anything over what amounts to a never-going-to-happen-neat-idea in my head, but I think it would resolve a lot more organizational problems than it would introduce. 
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boner confessor posted:you're not wrong, but industrial era cities sometimes develop at the borders of watersheds because the ridgelines that delineate them are excellent places for railroads Woah, got some examples? I'm big into trains and watersheds and never heard of this.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:wait hang on Vilnius Is Polish Clay
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The best comment on that USEA map: "please note the polish corridor to the Baltic sea is disputed, and so is Danzig's status."
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Family Values posted:Missouri is such an oddball when it comes to regional categorization. North of the Missouri River it's indistinguishable from Iowa, so putting it with the plains states kind of makes sense. South of the Missouri River and especially the Ozarks is indistinguishable from Arkansas and it wouldn't be crazy to categorize it as the South. Then the eastern edge of the state and especially St. Louis is as rust belt as it gets and fits with the midwest. Kentucky and to a lesser extent Texas are similar to this too.
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xrunner posted:Congrats. You've figured out that state lines feel arbitrary. But beware - it's a gateway drug. Soon you'll be making your own maps based on your personal opinions and giving the new states ridiculous names. Not just your personal opinion!  The New Republic posted:The map is so beautifully and colorfully executed that its message could easily be lost, but Powell was deadly serious about his proposal. The arid west, he insisted, ought to be organized not by the logic of the grid or existing state boundaries, but by the far more important and influential fact of watersheds. All decisions about settlement and politics must flow from these units; everything else was secondary. Within these water districts, Powell even speculated that the people themselves must be given cooperative control of the resources. Overly idealistic perhaps, but entirely understandable in an era where rampant speculation meant that railroad and other corporations were increasingly in control of the best and most arable tracts of land.
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Baronjutter posted:Woah, got some examples? I'm big into trains and watersheds and never heard of this. atlanta exists where it does because it's at the intersection of a north-south railroad from chattanooga to savannah, and an east-west railroad following the eastern continental divide. originally the rail infrastructure was going to be in the town of decatur, georgia but the residents there rejected the plan as rail hubs were full of people of loose morals, so the hub was moved a few miles west and welp there are other examples along less prominent watershed divides - technically chicago is along one of these divides as well as well as the chicago portage but chicago is the site of multiple economically advantageous geographical features really if you look at any railway town that developed as part of the expansion of train infrastructure, and that railway is not following a river or other hydrological cut, then chances are there's some hydrological divide going through town
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CaptainRightful posted:The best comment on that USEA map: "please note the polish corridor to the Baltic sea is disputed, and so is Danzig's status." This would be funnier had I not personally had a similar issue. I was backpacking in Europe five years ago and met a woman from Poland who said she was from Gdansk and asked if I knew where it was. I pondered for a second: "Gdansk.... oh! Danzig!" That was somewhat awkward.
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icantfindaname posted:Made in 1967 apparently Until the ratification of the Warsaw Treaty in 1972, virtually every map made in Germany showed it in the borders of 1937 (normally the areas east of the Oder-Neiße line were marked with "under Polish/Soviet administration"), and even then this change came only after heavy resistance by the powerful expellee associations (whose maps continued to show the 1937 borders anyway). IIRC my school still used some old maps with the old borders shown when I went there during the late 90s/early 00s. That said, your map was pretty clearly made by one of the expellee associations or another organisation lobbying for a return of the eastern areas.
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