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Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

We
imagine a gaming platform having better moderation than your website, lol

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Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


Notorious b.s.d. posted:

i don't care how much effort was put in, or how good the product is

the dangerous thing is the dream of somehow making money without integrating into a broader social fabric. it is a cultural problem. that is just not a good thing to want, much less actively pursue

but the streaming and youtube channels are a part of the social fabric for this generation. wanting to be a youtube star is really no different than previous generations wanting to be a movie star or musician.

a much bigger concern is that youtube dgaf about anything other than you viewing as much of their poo poo as possible so the algorithms Youtube uses tends to reward the person who is the most extreme with views and money. probably something to do with how those who share those extreme views are much more likely to like/comment/share the content that agrees with them and keep viewing it over and over again while someone who is middle of the road watching middle of the road content won't. that's why you end up with your recommended video list stuffed with poo poo from Paul Joseph Watson after clicking on some one minute video of some vaguely conservative topic.

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Shifty Pony posted:

but the streaming and youtube channels are a part of the social fabric for this generation. wanting to be a youtube star is really no different than previous generations wanting to be a movie star or musician.

becoming a movie star or a musician involves getting out of your mom's basement and interacting with other people

youtube stardom is the dream of ultimate self-involvement: you do it all yourself, without anybody else, and somehow you get money and fame for this


Shifty Pony posted:

a much bigger concern is that youtube dgaf about anything other than you viewing as much of their poo poo as possible so the algorithms Youtube uses tends to reward the person who is the most extreme with views and money. probably something to do with how those who share those extreme views are much more likely to like/comment/share the content that agrees with them and keep viewing it over and over again while someone who is middle of the road watching middle of the road content won't. that's why you end up with your recommended video list stuffed with poo poo from Paul Joseph Watson after clicking on some one minute video of some vaguely conservative topic.

same problem with basement dwellers

watching weirdo conspiracy poo poo on youtube is a great way to not have any of your ideas challenged in public

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

twitch and youtube are a bit different as far as the social aspect goes. on twitch the streamer interacts with you in real time (possibly delayed) and a community can form through the people in the chat. you can also join a party with the streamer or what not.

youtube has comments.

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

hobbesmaster posted:

twitch and youtube are a bit different as far as the social aspect goes. on twitch the streamer interacts with you in real time (possibly delayed) and a community can form through the people in the chat. you can also join a party with the streamer or what not.

youtube has comments.

interacting with letters on a screen in your mom's basement isn't the same as social interaction

(now we are weirdly on topic, because this is the central lie underpinning facebook and insta and so on)

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

then i have some bad news for you about the current generation

graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts

Shifty Pony posted:

Paul Joseph Watson

human garbage

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



watch my asmr overwatch twitch stream

TerminalRaptor
Nov 6, 2012

Mostly Harmless

hobbesmaster posted:

twitch and youtube are a bit different as far as the social aspect goes. on twitch the streamer interacts with you in real time (possibly delayed) and a community can form through the people in the chat. you can also join a party with the streamer or what not.

youtube has comments.

YouTube's live service let's you do the same and the few times I've stumbled into it it's been filled with idiots spamming racial slurs and swastikas.

muckswirler
Oct 22, 2008

Endless Mike posted:

watch my asmr overwatch twitch stream

Do you hang dong or get ur norks out?

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



muckswirler posted:

Do you hang dong or get ur norks out?

you'll have to watch to find out. click my donate link!

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

Endless Mike posted:

you'll have to watch to find out. click my donate link!*

*money needed for boob/penis job

Cat Face Joe
Feb 20, 2005

goth vegan crossfit mom who vapes



President Beep posted:

*money needed for boob/penis job

need these boobs penis'd up pronto

ShinsoBEAM!
Nov 6, 2008

"Even if this body of mine is turned to dust, I will defend my country."

TerminalRaptor posted:

YouTube's live service let's you do the same and the few times I've stumbled into it it's been filled with idiots spamming racial slurs and swastikas.

live chat was a mistake

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

President Beep posted:

*money needed for boob/penis job

stretch goals for my new dilznick

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

ShinsoBEAM! posted:

live chat was a mistake

this has been true since the dawn of the internet, all the worst poo poo started on irc

crabrock
Aug 2, 2002

I

AM

MAGNIFICENT






i actually need a penis reduction

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

President Beep posted:

joking aside, that must’ve been absolutely terrifying

yeah, she was really shaken up, said she just keeps hearing the click as the woman chambered a round

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


eschaton posted:

yeah, she was really shaken up, said she just keeps hearing the click as the woman chambered a round

she should be talking with a ptsd specialist asap.

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

becoming a movie star or a musician involves getting out of your mom's basement and interacting with other people

youtube stardom is the dream of ultimate self-involvement: you do it all yourself, without anybody else, and somehow you get money and fame for this


same problem with basement dwellers

watching weirdo conspiracy poo poo on youtube is a great way to not have any of your ideas challenged in public

most of the "interacting with other people" that happens in Hollywood is hardly healthy interaction

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

interacting with letters on a screen in your mom's basement isn't the same as social interaction

(now we are weirdly on topic, because this is the central lie underpinning facebook and insta and so on)

and email and Usenet and

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Shifty Pony posted:

she should be talking with a ptsd specialist asap.

she will be

she gets to spend today talking to the feds

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

becoming a movie star or a musician involves getting out of your mom's basement and interacting with other people

youtube stardom is the dream of ultimate self-involvement: you do it all yourself, without anybody else, and somehow you get money and fame for this

eh it depends on what your channel is about, there's a lot of ~youtube stars~ that film themselves out and doing poo poo and interacting with people, a lot of them have friends on, idk it's not inherently insular to a lot of people

JawnV6
Jul 4, 2004

So hot ...

none of this was the doxing that vice used as justification to cut off her entire brand

Squeezy Farm
Jun 16, 2009

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

becoming a movie star or a musician involves getting out of your mom's basement and interacting with other people

youtube stardom is the dream of ultimate self-involvement: you do it all yourself, without anybody else, and somehow you get money and fame for this


same problem with basement dwellers

watching weirdo conspiracy poo poo on youtube is a great way to not have any of your ideas challenged in public

you're a crotchety old man and this generation is going to leave you in the dust despite your advanced knowledge of programming languages and cherry mx blue switches hth

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

Squeezy Farm posted:

you're a crotchety old man and this generation is going to leave you in the dust despite your advanced knowledge of programming languages and cherry mx blue switches hth

not if they keep getting kneecapped by the whims of a huge faceless corporation

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
peeps my age are worse programmers than 30-40yo's. anyone older is also a worse programmer

there was a 10-15 year golden age when they gave computers to little kids but you also needed to use a commandline to do poo poo with any computer

JawnV6
Jul 4, 2004

So hot ...
dont worry, we're gonna task the 30-40yo's with building a visual programming environment, which will solve all of

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

haveblue posted:

not if they keep getting kneecapped by the whims of a huge faceless corporation

beats getting kneecapped because you wouldn't suck a producer's dick

the internet isn't very good at simulating that part of the showbiz experience yet

ShinsoBEAM!
Nov 6, 2008

"Even if this body of mine is turned to dust, I will defend my country."

JawnV6 posted:

dont worry, we're gonna task the 30-40yo's with building a visual programming environment, which will solve all of

gives a whole new meaning to spaghetti code

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

ShinsoBEAM! posted:

gives a whole new meaning to spaghetti code

muckswirler
Oct 22, 2008



Max/MSP is great for this poo poo lol

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe

I should see if I can dig up any of the old labview stuff a friend sent me

i'm sure we have some nightmares at my workplace too

crabrock
Aug 2, 2002

I

AM

MAGNIFICENT






my code is easy to visualize because it's a straight line because i don't believe in functions, arrays, objects, or anything other than if/else statements

akadajet
Sep 14, 2003

crabrock posted:

my code is easy to visualize because it's a straight line because i don't believe in functions, arrays, objects, or anything other than if/else statements

https://github.com/xoreaxeaxeax/movfuscator

Plank Walker
Aug 11, 2005
my code is easy to visualize because it's poo poo

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



crabrock posted:

my code is easy to visualize because it's a straight line because i don't believe in functions, arrays, objects, or anything other than if/else statements

how is platform masters coming along

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

hobbesmaster posted:

twitch and youtube are a bit different as far as the social aspect goes. on twitch the streamer interacts with you in real time (possibly delayed) and a community can form through the people in the chat. you can also join a party with the streamer or what not.

youtube has comments.

TerminalRaptor posted:

YouTube's live service let's you do the same and the few times I've stumbled into it it's been filled with idiots spamming racial slurs and swastikas.

Twitch has chat moderators and that goes a looooooooong way to keeping a community healthy.

I regularly watch a couple pubg streamers and they are some of the nicest streamers on the site and the community is reflected in that.

YouTube is just god awful

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

JawnV6 posted:

dont worry, we're gonna task the 30-40yo's with building a visual programming environment, which will solve all of

seriouspost: i have a friend who has severe dyslexia who can't use anything except those loving flowchart visual programming bullshit things and she's basically writing an entire videogame in one (that I plan on kinda, coming in behind her and rewriting chunks of it in raw code before it's released) and she's been able to do some really impressive, complex poo poo with it so far that she'd never be able to do any other way :shrug:

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Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

ate all the Oreos posted:

seriouspost: i have a friend who has severe dyslexia who can't use anything except those loving flowchart visual programming bullshit things and she's basically writing an entire videogame in one (that I plan on kinda, coming in behind her and rewriting chunks of it in raw code before it's released) and she's been able to do some really impressive, complex poo poo with it so far that she'd never be able to do any other way :shrug:
legit curious how she'd dig Hypercard.

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