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Samuringa
Mar 27, 2017

Best advice I was ever given?

"Ticker, you'll be a lot happier once you stop caring about the opinions of a culture that is beneath you."

I learned my worth, learned the places and people that matter.

Opened my eyes.
I liked Bioshock 2 better than 1 :(

I also liked Tooie better than Kazooie :(

It's me, BadOpinionMan.

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Raxivace
Sep 9, 2014

BioShock 2 had legit better gameplay than BioShock 1 though so that's not some indefensible opinion.

Tooie over Kazooie though? I can't agree with that.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.


I thought most people liked Bioshock 2 over 1?

Raxivace
Sep 9, 2014

Anyways Banjo Pilot was the second best Banjo game.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

raditts posted:

I thought most people liked Bioshock 2 over 1?

Bioshock 1 has a better story, Bioshock 2 has better gameplay, it's a fairly even trade

Raxivace
Sep 9, 2014

The love for Minerva's Den is the real puzzle to me though. Its so drat bland.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


I thought most people held up Minerva’s Den as the pinnacle of that series.

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

I bought The Alliance Alive because people were saying it's actually good and well I'm only a couple of hours in but I'm having a great time so I'm looking forward to playing more of it this week. It's low budg as hell but it's cute and charming, and I love SaGa gameplay. Also the soundtrack is kind of unusual but really good. The world map has this nice PSO sounding track and they do the smart thing of letting it play uninterrupted through battles, I really appreciate it.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

glam rock hamhock posted:

Phil Fish was a good game creator that said stupid things and gamers got mad but like to a stupid degree like they tend to and eventually he got sick of being told to kill himself every time he posted anything, so he dropped out of making games and posting online and then people got mad at him for that.

No one got mad at him, he was just relentlessly made fun of for being a huge dork. Canceling Fez 2 and getting out of making games was hilarious and he got mocked even more for being a thin skinned little turd.

Nasgate
Jun 7, 2011

Rarity posted:

Bioshock 1 has a better story, Bioshock 2 has better gameplay, it's a fairly even trade

Ehhhhhh. I think it's more appropriate to say 1 has the least bad story.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

glam rock hamhock posted:

Phil Fish was a good game creator that said stupid things and gamers got mad but like to a stupid degree like they tend to and eventually he got sick of being told to kill himself every time he posted anything, so he dropped out of making games and posting online and then people got mad at him for that.

I think more people were just laughing at how he was being a big ole babby

FEZ is still an okay game

Olive!
Mar 16, 2015

It's not a ghost, but probably a 'living corpse'. The 'living dead' with a hell of a lot of bloodlust...
Yeah what kind of wimpy crybaby can't handle death threats, c'mon lmao

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

He was pretty good at telling people to die himself

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


I have no idea who Phil Fish or what Fez is

al-azad
May 28, 2009



Was Fez twee?

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused
Bioshock 1 was one of my favorite games as a kid but I thought the sequel looked like pointless pandering so I didn't buy it. It was probably the first instance where I thought to myself "hey that story was pretty tight and contained...why do we need a sequel?".

Years later I look back on its existence a lot more favorably because hey its not loving Infinite! :negative:

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

Congratulations The One Concern!!!

You're addicted to Ivory!!

and...oh my...could you please...
oh my...

Grimey Drawer
Its always weird to me when people understate how loving vile the internet can be to those it decides it doesn't like. No one on the internet gets a hate following that is just made up of people joshing them for being dumb or whiney. Phil Fish was a guy mainly known for being disliked. Of course he had nothing but a constant stream of the worst the internet has to offer, which is pretty bad. You also have to remember he argued against and was in the crosshairs of gamer gate so he got to deal with those wonderful people too

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




I beat orochi in okami hd and ive seen a lot of people recommend i quit now like theres another 20 hrs of gameplay that is bad? Is that true? I liked it so far

Olive!
Mar 16, 2015

It's not a ghost, but probably a 'living corpse'. The 'living dead' with a hell of a lot of bloodlust...

Real hurthling! posted:

I beat orochi in okami hd and ive seen a lot of people recommend i quit now like theres another 20 hrs of gameplay that is bad? Is that true? I liked it so far

If you feel like playing the game, play the game. Then, if you don't like playing the game any more, stop playing the game.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

lets hang out posted:

He was pretty good at telling people to die himself

yea i would have a lot more sympathy for him if he didn't dish it out too

goes around comes around etc

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

Real hurthling! posted:

I beat orochi in okami hd and ive seen a lot of people recommend i quit now like theres another 20 hrs of gameplay that is bad? Is that true? I liked it so far

those people are dumbs, if you liked Okami so far and want some more then you'll like the rest too

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

al-azad posted:

Was Fez twee?
very

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



It is acutely embarrassing that "gaming culture" has created the most vile and extreme ways of harrassing and attacking people short of actually murdering them and which would be more easily seen as terrorism or hate crimes if they weren't about excruciatingly dumb poo poo. Like the geniuses who came up with swatting people

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




Really Pants posted:

those people are dumbs, if you liked Okami so far and want some more then you'll like the rest too

Good

Raxivace
Sep 9, 2014

precision posted:

yea i would have a lot more sympathy for him if he didn't dish it out too

goes around comes around etc
Even in Indie Game: The Movie he doesn't exactly come off as the best of dudes.

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

Congratulations The One Concern!!!

You're addicted to Ivory!!

and...oh my...could you please...
oh my...

Grimey Drawer

Real hurthling! posted:

I beat orochi in okami hd and ive seen a lot of people recommend i quit now like theres another 20 hrs of gameplay that is bad? Is that true? I liked it so far

The rest of the game is just as good, it's just some people get impatient because holy poo poo is it a long game

al-azad
May 28, 2009



glam rock hamhock posted:

Its always weird to me when people understate how loving vile the internet can be to those it decides it doesn't like. No one on the internet gets a hate following that is just made up of people joshing them for being dumb or whiney. Phil Fish was a guy mainly known for being disliked. Of course he had nothing but a constant stream of the worst the internet has to offer, which is pretty bad. You also have to remember he argued against and was in the crosshairs of gamer gate so he got to deal with those wonderful people too

I didn't like the guy based entirely on his public personality but when that British PC games journalist guy (can't be bothered to remember his name) publicly called him out on GameTrailers that was definitely a punching down moment. Fish wasn't a millionaire punching bag Molyneux or Cage, he was just some spaz from Canada.

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

the most twee thing about fez is in your first loop finding the cool sophisticated city full of people speaking an incomprehensible language, then cycling and learning their ancient language and discovering all the secrets of the world, bestowing boons, and ready to take your place among the residents of the city of the gods. and then you start talking to them and you realize they've all just been calling you a stupid hick the whole time

Help Im Alive
Nov 8, 2009

It's named after one of the twee-est hats

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

"Gaming culture" is weird since it's been a mainstream pop culture thing since its inception, and the largest market is overwhelmingly typical adults playing some phone puzzle game or something, but online people think it's a secret club based in the meritocracy of how good you are at dark souls or w/e.

Liver Disaster
Mar 31, 2012

no more tears

This person may be a shithead, but shitheads hate him, so he's probably actually cool and good.

Jay Rust
Sep 27, 2011

Why are we talking about Phil Fish?

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice

Motto posted:

"Gaming culture" is weird since it's been a mainstream pop culture thing since its inception, and the largest market is overwhelmingly typical adults playing some phone puzzle game or something, but online people think it's a secret club based in the meritocracy of how good you are at dark souls or w/e.

Gaming is both an activity ("I play games") and an identity ("I am a gamer"). Once it's an identity it's vulnerable to tribalism and gatekeeping the way any other identity is.

codenameFANGIO
May 4, 2012

What are you even booing here?

Jay Rust posted:

Why are we talking about Phil Fish?

I want to play Fez 2

Jay Rust
Sep 27, 2011

The dark age ending of Deus Ex was the good ending

Accordion Man
Nov 7, 2012


Buglord

Jay Rust posted:

The dark age ending of Deus Ex was the good ending
No, HELIOS was. It's even the title of the game.

Jay Rust
Sep 27, 2011

Yeah but... imagine a world without twitter

Accordion Man
Nov 7, 2012


Buglord
I'd rather have the benevolent god AI that insures we don't kill ourselves out of our own stupidity and malice. The Dark Age ending won't change anything in the long run.

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


On the one hand, no twitter

On the other hand, no pornhub

:thunk:

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I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Jay Rust posted:

Yeah but... imagine a world without twitter

The world would be so much better.

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