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HEY GUNS posted:they're like that about prussia as well though Then I guess it was just about being beaten in a war in which Austria-Hungary did its very best to let Prussia walk all over the other states, which lead to stuff like the Hanoveran army wandering into a trap with zero help from their "allies" down south
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Mr Enderby posted:What if the Romans had dragons? what if every army with dragoons instead had exactly that many dragons
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Cessna posted:Protip: Try not to get piked in the spine. this is why you should also have a pike. A pike society is a polite society.
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feedmegin posted:I mean, they did handle the Russians in the Crimean War only like 10 years earlier. Well I am pretty sure any Industrial western European nation army could handle the Crimean era Russian army. It was not in a very good place.
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SeanBeansShako posted:Well I am pretty sure any Industrial western European nation army could handle the Crimean era Russian army. It was not in a very good place.
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Jeb Bush 2012 posted:what if every army with dragoons instead had exactly that many dragons Foraging becomes even more destructive.
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HEY GUNS posted:except, apparently, the british The British nor French army weren't exactly top notch but at least they were using modern firearms.
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HEY GUNS posted:they're like that about prussia as well though HEY GUNS posted:you;re a bavarian, is what you are We're contrarian, Catholic alcoholics who like to fight, okay? Deal with it. Comrade Gorbash posted:It's a sort of "yes but" situation. O word, I think I understand what you mean better now. Thanks! (From your first post I thought you meant that the independent princeships wanted to be part of Germany without context and I was like ?????? My bad for mis-reading."
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Ensign Expendable posted:Nope, it was a T-35. Yup. I kinda proved myself wrong when I did the research. I thought that the T-35 had basically been sitting outside, abandoned and building up rust. If it was still in use as a trainer for a good while and receiving maintenance during that time then that makes a lot more sense. Especially if it was stored with some care. It's really loving awesome that thing can/will still run today.
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Xiahou Dun posted:O word, I think I understand what you mean better now. Thanks!
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HEY GUNS posted:except, apparently, the british "WOT?! FEED OUR OWN SOLDIERS!?! God, you lot is lazy, parasitical on the taxes of honest Britons."
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HEY GUNS posted:except, apparently, the british We won? It wasn't the Charge of the Light Brigade and that's it. The big scandals were logistics and medical care which was all on us not Russia.
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feedmegin posted:We won? bro, when russian soldiers take so much pity on you they start throwing bread at your soldiers over the lines you may have hosed up edit: everyone needs to read this. This is about the difference between received wisdom and archival research. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/04/04/world/middleeast/isis-documents-mosul-iraq.html HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Apr 5, 2018 |
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All sides the Crimean War were laughably bad and each took their turn starving in mud/ruins and was the death of pre-Industrial warfare. It was a bitter slog that was cut short due to Industrial warfare, diplomacy and war weariness all taking a proper part in finishing it.
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Mr Enderby posted:What if the Romans had dragons? An event that came to be known only as ‘the Doom’ laid waste to the
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HEY GUNS posted:this is what happens when you get piked in the spine 17th century acupuncture was rough
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HEY GUNS posted:edit: everyone needs to read this. This is about the difference between received wisdom and archival research. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/04/04/world/middleeast/isis-documents-mosul-iraq.html This is fascinating. It reminds me of the time I read ISIS' propaganda magazine for a grad school course on international terrorism. They had articles about agriculture policy and irrigation, right next to gory pictures of dead Kurds and articles about crusades and making explosives. Fake edit: Does anyone know any English-language sources where I can read about the Imjin War?
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Kangxi posted:This is fascinating. It reminds me of the time I read ISIS' propaganda magazine for a grad school course on international terrorism. They had articles about agriculture policy and irrigation, right next to gory pictures of dead Kurds and articles about crusades and making explosives. There was a goon who did a great podcast on it called topics in Korean history. If podcasts aren't your bag you might try and see if he has his references down. Otherwise than one dude who always posts about Korean history can probably help you.
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13th KRRC War Diary, 5th Apr 1918 posted:At 5 a.m. the 63rd Brigade and an Australian Brigade attacked the enemy and successfully broke up an enemy attack which was about to be launched and captured 140 Boche including 4 Officers. Appendix B:-
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Mr Enderby posted:FFS, I don't even mind a bit of counterfactual history, but let's try a different point in history for a change. there's a trash book series about 'what if boney had dragons' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temeraire_(series)
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chitoryu12 posted:Post your picture coward.
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SeanBeansShako posted:All sides the Crimean War were laughably bad and each took their turn starving in mud/ruins and was the death of pre-Industrial warfare. It was a bitter slog that was cut short due to Industrial warfare, diplomacy and war weariness all taking a proper part in finishing it. OK, please tell me if I'm talking nonsense here because this isn't a subject I know much about, but I get the impression that the Crimean War was a massive lesson every Western nation could have learned from, and they all failed to do so.
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There were reforms brought about due to the Crimean War. Most significantly, the British Army underwent drastic changes in the Cardwell and Childers reforms that took place from 1868 and 1881.
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Mr Enderby posted:OK, please tell me if I'm talking nonsense here because this isn't a subject I know much about, but I get the impression that the Crimean War was a massive lesson every Western nation could have learned from, and they all failed to do so. See above for the British Army. Also, the US Army learned a few things from said war too. Oh, and advances in both battlefield surgery and siege warfare too. This was the first conflict that used trains and the telegraph now.
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SeanBeansShako posted:See above for the British Army. Also, the US Army learned a few things from said war too. Oh, and advances in both battlefield surgery and siege warfare too. This was the first conflict that used trains and the telegraph now. Also Alexis Soyer, who I really hope one of you 19th century nerds will do an effortpost on because he is fascinating.
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HEY GUNS posted:i'm on the left, other goon System Metternich is on the right Nice Pike
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So does that Bering Strait bridge assume normalized relations with the US or global communism triumphant https://mobile.twitter.com/EternalBolshie/status/981876232391397376
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Donate it to the Holocaust Memorial Museum.
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Kangxi posted:Fake edit: Does anyone know any English-language sources where I can read about the Imjin War? Of the comprehensive overviews, none of them are especially great. There's three major ones, which are Samuel Hawley's The Imjin War, Kenneth Swope's A Dragon's Head and a Serpent's Tail, and Stephen Turnbull's Samurai Invasion. Of those I'd recommend Samuel Hawley's the most, it's pretty comprehensive and has the broadest point of view, but it was written as a passion project by a non-academic and has a bit of a Korea bias. It's not bad though as long as you keep that in mind. Swope's was written almost as a direct answer to Hawley's, like, he wrote a scathing Amazon review and makes snide comments in his footnotes and everything, but (apparently, I dunno Chinese history so well but I've read) reads Ming sources pretty uncritically and makes a bunch of flat out errors, and consequently also has more than a bit of a Ming bias which is kind of ironic considering he actually is an academic. Stephen Turnbull's 2002 edition is apparently fine although it's an Osprey book, and mostly going into the military side of things, so take that as you will--I haven't actually read it properly myself. If you wanna look at the armies involved and so on more than background it might be the best pick though. one that I'd actually uncritically recommend is JaHyun Kim-Haboush's The Great East Asian War and the Birth of the Korean Nation, but it has a much more narrow focus, since it's focusing on her theory of the emergence of a proto-nationalism in Korea because of the wars. Over the course of the book it goes over the broad strokes of the war though, and it's all on Jstor if you have access to that.
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ChubbyChecker posted:there's a trash book series about 'what if boney had dragons' is it good, i am extremely about this potentially edit: ugh it's about the loving rosbifs and also it's navy stuff, zut alors KYOON GRIFFEY JR fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Apr 6, 2018 |
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HEY GUNS posted:edit: everyone needs to read this. This is about the difference between received wisdom and archival research. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/04/04/world/middleeast/isis-documents-mosul-iraq.html Now this got me curious. Can anyone recommend any books about the reconstruction of post-war Germany in WW2? I'm interested in the details about how you go from a pile of rubble and a significant fraction of the population of a given town dead to a normal, functioning economy again. Books about post-war reconstruction in any of the countries involved in WW2 would be good, actually, I just picked Germany because I figured that the more specific the subject the more likely to find a book that goes into the amount of detail I'm interested in. Edit: KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:is it good, i am extremely about this potentially It's mostly about how the author really, really wishes that she had a noble, innocent, good-hearted yet powerful dragon as her true bestest friend, and also the British government is hilariously and sometimes pointlessly evil. Also it suffers somewhat from the premise that dragons exist and are used in warfare, but the history of Europe continues exactly the same until Napoleon, which is where everything starts going bananas. I mean, I still finished the series but I'd have a hard time calling it good, really. Edit Edit: It does have a super anti-imperialist ending, though, if that matters to you. Tomn fucked around with this message at 03:00 on Apr 6, 2018 |
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Mr Enderby posted:OK, please tell me if I'm talking nonsense here because this isn't a subject I know much about, but I get the impression that the Crimean War was a massive lesson every Western nation could have learned from, and they all failed to do so. on balance if someone says "nobody learned from this war even though they should" they are wrong and lying people learn a lot of lessons from wars and apply them in the next war. sometimes, some of them are even the right ones!
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HEY GUNS posted:eventually God that is so my jam. I loving live for figuring out how administrators make the day to day running of ideologically driven regimes happen. The bit about neighbors petitioning to confiscate lands of people who followed the wrong religion has a really Götz Aly vibe.
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Tomn posted:Now this got me curious. Can anyone recommend any books about the reconstruction of post-war Germany in WW2? I'm interested in the details about how you go from a pile of rubble and a significant fraction of the population of a given town dead to a normal, functioning economy again. Quoting to remind myself to respond to this tomorrow. Post war reconstruction was about 90 percent of my dissertation so I’ve got a bit of a reading list on it.
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Cyrano4747 posted:The bit about neighbors petitioning to confiscate lands of people who followed the wrong religion has a really Götz Aly vibe.
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Platystemon posted:People have been fantasising about using time travel to kill Hitler since before the real Hitler’s death. There's a good short story about this https://www.tor.com/2011/08/31/wikihistory/ Desmond Warzel posted:International Association of Time Travelers: Members’ Forum
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Grumio posted:There's a good short story about this "Okay, Time Director, I know you sent me back in time to kill baby Hitler, but I killed Woodrow Wilson by accident." "Who the hell is baby Hitler?
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Phanatic posted:"Okay, Time Director, I know you sent me back in time to kill baby Hitler, but I killed Woodrow Wilson by accident." You find a young bavarian dispatch runner on the battlefield. You, a member of the king's royal rifle corps, have your gun drawn and aimed at his chest. Do you kill Hitler?
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ChubbyChecker posted:there's a trash book series about 'what if boney had dragons' Tomn posted:It's mostly about how the author really, really wishes that she had a noble, innocent, good-hearted yet powerful dragon as her true bestest friend, and also the British government is hilariously and sometimes pointlessly evil. Also it suffers somewhat from the premise that dragons exist and are used in warfare, but the history of Europe continues exactly the same until Napoleon, which is where everything starts going bananas. I have read a good chunk of that series and didn't even recognize the series name until your description Tomn. It's...well if you want a fun story if a but young-adult-ish. However in comparison it makes Flint's Belisarius series look like hard, hard fiction and that had telekinetic space whales from the future giving the Byzantine Empire guns, steam power, radio, etc.
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