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Rand Brittain posted:Oh, heh, I just realized. The cutting of Bunny’s string means that her Decryption is going to fail. Hm. And if that’s true, healing the Great Minds becomes possible. But is it wise?
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Rand Brittain posted:Oh, heh, I just realized. The cutting of Bunny’s string means that her Decryption is going to fail. Presumably all units have their string cut when dying, though? I don't see why Bunny's s- oh right hers was completely unraveled.
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Kyte posted:Presumably all units have their string cut when dying, though? I don't see why Bunny's s- oh right hers was completely unraveled. Link up between Wanda, Maggie, and Ace? Wanda must decrypt, but the strings need to be rewoven, so maggie does it with her knowledge of gstrings and hstrings. Unfortunately they can't recreate the original body, they need to put it into a new vessel. So bunny is transferred to her unfinished doll (or the Maggie doll who desperately wants to be real but knows she isnt) by Ace, with the help of Maggie and her experience of realdolls. Bunny comes back, but no longer a real unit, but as a living, thinking doll, completing the reverse signamancy of Bunny Velvetino (Velveteen Rabbit).
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Ooh, nice catch. In retrospect it's neat to see what all the talk about strings, dolls, and suchlike that nearly everybody's been going on about all chapter was leading up to all along. (Assuming we aren't just making up epileptic trees.)
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Donkringel posted:Link up between Wanda, Maggie, and Ace? Not Ace, Bill. He has experience with it, after all, and it makes for a neat redemption story.
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Hob_Gadling posted:Not Ace, Bill. He has experience with it, after all, and it makes for a neat redemption story. That would be horrifying and I think the fans would turn on Baldur. Teaming up with a rapist and having him resurrect one of his victims with the help of one of his other victims? Sweet jesus. Balder already got enough flack from Parson and the Archons. Bill needs to croak and stay croaked. Caesar was already thinking about disbanding him, now with his latest shenanigans he has gone into the irredeemable category in my mind.
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Oh yes, it'll be horrible. This one will not have a happy ending, it's all but guaranteed. We have Dr. Frankenstein, Dracula and the Iron Lady stuck in a room. It has to end in tears. Just because it's possible, what if it's not Wanda in the linkup either? Bill, Maggie and Charlie would make a real powerhouse of a team. Maybe they could cheat death! Or cheat someone to death, anyway.
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Hob_Gadling posted:Oh yes, it'll be horrible. This one will not have a happy ending, it's all but guaranteed. We have Dr. Frankenstein, Dracula and the Iron Lady stuck in a room. It has to end in tears. Also there is a clown. Although I'm still betting on this chapter ending in a miracle.
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Dr. Frankenstein, Dracula, the Iron Lady and the Joker. Kinda funny given the original Signamancy of Gobwin Knob was a villainous faction (and may still be). IIRC, some of Stanley's imagery evokes Stalin, and the popular image of Napoleon. The whole Signamancy thing still interests me a bit. It shows some continuity with factions, given the Italian-American inspired modern Transylvito still has some gothic-esque similarities with the Aztec-esque Huehue (possibly Pillar Men inspired) while it's hard to say where Jed fits in, and Shirley is a more generic weathered ancient feminine idol.
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Hm, this also explains the dolls that Maxwell made. They were dolls that tried to be a man, or a lion, and got their data about what that meant from Maxwell, and lost it when he died.
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Oh, that is a positive note for no more mobile ads. Those sometimes really ticked me off. Glad Mine4erf is producing results, despite backlash.
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Donkringel posted:Oh, that is a positive note for no more mobile ads. Those sometimes really ticked me off. Glad Mine4erf is producing results, despite backlash. I hated visiting the site on my phone. I got one of those "YOUR PHONE IS INFECTED WITH 213 VIRUSES!!!" ads at least half the time.
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Well, that's about what we were expecting. And ew, he's got a picture of Vanna in there. Hm, what effect will it have on Caesar's captivity if Bill is croaked by a Charlescomm unit?
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Rand Brittain posted:Well, that's about what we were expecting. And ew, he's got a picture of Vanna in there. Caeser will be free I'm assuming. Also, that couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. gently caress Bill.
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I REALLY wanted to see what happened with Bill. I was excited. I didn't REALLY mean that the action should switch to FAQ right at the crescendo of Translyvito. But here we are. At least Templeton is neat. More straightforwars then any other tower. So it looks like everyone gets a totem tower. That leaves Jetstone and King Dickie left then to get them, right? Am i missing out on ANY OTHER SIDE WE COULD POSSIBLY SWITCH TO TO FIND OUT THEIR PUN NAMED TOTEM TOWER?!
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Looks like more hints towards the theory that the Temples are a revival of a very old Erfworld mechanic that's been dormant until now.
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A lot have been named but probably nothing still existing. Sooo... that should be it for tower raising action unless they want to do a montage. Then I could see him doing every last frickin' one. Cause world building. I'm about 90% certain that the other big 'hush hush' secret that the Thinkamancers had was the Temples (and perhaps who suppressed them).
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Geocities Homepage King posted:I hated visiting the site on my phone. I got one of those "YOUR PHONE IS INFECTED WITH 213 VIRUSES!!!" ads at least half the time. some of those bastards are in Something Awful's rotation for me 
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GreyjoyBastard posted:some of those bastards are in Something Awful's rotation for me Do you use a browser or the Awful App? I've never seen one using the Awful App.
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Inescapable Duck posted:Also, I get the feeling that a lot of people people have been 'cheating' Efworld for a very, very long time. Charlie's likely not even anywhere near the first. Parson is just the first to be open about it. Nice av.
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my dad posted:Nice av. Thanks. I'm quite fond of it. Oh you mean the other guy.
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Well now I feel like a massive dick for giving him poo poo 
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gently caress dude I really hope robs wife doesn’t die. That is my only erfworld related hope right now
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Yeah uh... missed comics kinda make sense when your wife's basically dying from liver cancer.
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Yup. Feel like a dick too.
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You shouldn't. They didn't even know until Easter. Before that it was just Balder being Balder. I think it'll probably be healthy for him to get his head out of Erfworld some. Not the way I'd hoped he'd be forced into dealing with his obsession, though.
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gently caress. I mean we didn't know and he didn't offer up reasons but it does make sense now. Even before they knew she was dealing with the symptoms which makes a shitton more sense. I do hope that she makes a quick and full recovery and will give zero crap about missed updates until then.
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http://archives.erfworld.com/Book%203/316 I wonder how will the Erfworld Billing System collect on that massive back payment.
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Kyte posted:http://archives.erfworld.com/Book%203/316 It would seem that this little mother does indeed have sharp claws.
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Kyte posted:http://archives.erfworld.com/Book%203/316 Same way it's been trying to all this time? Attempting to kill him.
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I mean if there was gonna be blowback for Charlies portal exploit It seems like it should have happened a long time ago. But then the Temples only recently came back online as it were, and maybe reporting this sorta stuff is part of their job. But if that's the case why were they ever dormant in first place and what does the power bill for years(?) of running a super fortress even look like? That remark about the enviroment seems a bit ominous and the Source handles a lot more then just a portal. What happens if you cut power to a side?
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Caidin posted:why were they ever dormant in first place and what does the power bill for years(?) of running a super fortress even look like? Either they shut off automatically after a certain number of turns, or they couldn't be rebuilt after they were captured by opposing sides.
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Or the consequences could have been happening all along without anyone noticing, or realising what was causing it, given the nod to 'pollution'. Isn't Charlie's territory mountainous wastes? Though I'm not sure on the details, I was under the impression it was strongly 'north' on the Erf map, possibly equivalent to the polar regions. Though maybe it's like that in return for being extremely defensible mountainous terrain, and iirc he deliberately keeps city sites near Charlescomm undeveloped to deter invaders. Shirley turning everything off might just be doing it to see what, if anything, changes when the power siphoning stops. Charlie's deliberately been cheating the game by acting like something completely different from a 'side', specifically a corporation (a crooked corporation, of course); not engaging in the politics and wars of the outside world, but instead relying on providing services to anyone who can pay, appearing to be almost a NPC. (also, the telecommunications monopoly turning out to have been spying on everyone has aged depressingly well) In a way, this has crippled Charlie as his entire side and livelihood relies on the Arkendish and his tower in his single city. He's cheated his way into an unusual gameplay style, and while he has made his city a fortress, it's cripplingly overspecialised leaving him little room for backup plans- or someone to bail him out- when poo poo goes wrong. Even a well-meaning, powerful ally he can't control can cause havoc simply because his paranoia has led him to be totally unable to trust anyone he can't directly control. I figured a while ago that Parson, apparently being fated to kill Charlie, may eventually get a closer look at what Charlie looks like and who he is, and end up considering it a mercy kill. (interestingly, being morbidly obese, unhealthy and having nothing left in his life but things fed through wires might make Parson think uncomfortably of how he might have ended up if he'd remained in Stupidworld) Ghost Leviathan fucked around with this message at 10:04 on Apr 11, 2018 |
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Caidin posted:I mean if there was gonna be blowback for Charlies portal exploit It seems like it should have happened a long time ago. But then the Temples only recently came back online as it were, and maybe reporting this sorta stuff is part of their job. But if that's the case why were they ever dormant in first place and what does the power bill for years(?) of running a super fortress even look like? When Shirley talked about Jed's juice usage, her example of something that used a lot of juice was "building cities". But as far as we knew up to now, building cities doesn't cost juice. A Dirtamancer could certainly spend juice on improving a city, or on making the city construction process more efficient, but the basic act of "building a city" is Natural Moneymancy which doesn't require any unit to spend any juice. The ruler orders "build a city", Schmuckers vanish from the treasury, and a city magically appears, all without anyone having to cast. It was magic, as everything in Erfworld is, but it was a Natural magic inherent to the world and its workings, and therefore didn't cost anyone any juice...or so we thought. The way Shirley's talking, as well as Jed's offer to pay it back, implies that those natural magics are accomplished by taking juice from the Source. It further implies that Natural Moneymancy doesn't work by directly converting Schmuckers into magic, it works by giving the Schmuckers to the Source and then taking an equivalent amount of free juice from the Source. It implies that many other natural magics, such as the portals, are sustained by the Source's infinite juice rather than just being free. Lastly, it implies that the payment is not necessarily required or inherent in the money-for-juice exchange, and that the temples do it out of mutual agreement or some sense of fairness. Obviously, that has all sorts of potentially horrific implications for Charlescomm. How many of those essential side transactions are routed through the side's capital tower? Well, we know that the treasury is located in the capital and can't be moved except by converting it to gems. We know from Jed's tale that units' upkeep strings are connected to the capital. We know from Big Think's golem lessons that nonliving units such as golems consume juice rather than food, and that their upkeep provides the juice necessary to keep them running. Charlie could be in quite a bit of trouble now. We don't know enough to make any sense of what the consequences of all this juice theft would be, beyond disapproval from the other towers. But with all this talk of "stuff that seemed to be free magic actually took stole juice from the world", well, the temples aren't the only things that have been doing rule-breaking stuff for free. What about the Arkentools? Stanley could use the Arkenhammer to shoot Shockamancy, even though he doesn't have any juice to spend on it. Wanda used the Arkenpliers to create the only units in Erfworld that don't charge their side daily upkeep. That all seemed to be free, but we've just learned that there's no such thing as free poo poo: everything that isn't paid for by Schmuckers or caster juice is paid for by stealing the necessary resources straight from the mysterious Source. We've also learned that the Temples hate that. Right now, that's mostly burning Charlie...but once he's gone, is Gobwin Knob next?
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ninjewtsu posted:Is it actually said anywhere that parson is fated to kill charlie, or is that just presumed to be why charlie wants parson gone so bad? It's pretty much stated in Book 2, and in Book 3, when Wanda argues that Parson is fated to kill Charlie, he asks if he has to shoot him, Marie is just "You don't have to use a gun. But you are going to kill him.
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More specifically, she says as long as Parson is responsible for Charlie's death it counts. This was to rebuke Wanda's dogmatic approach to prophecies, which made her stop Lilith from taking the shot in the single best opportunity to do so because she thought it had to be Parson dealing the killing blow.
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