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I've been ignoring Canadian politics since moving to the US, but it's amazing to check in and see that the federal Conservatives might very well take power in the next election. As if the decade under Harper wasn't enough to banish them for a generation. I dislike the Liberals but at least they implemented a carbon tax and it would be a shame if that were repealed.cowofwar posted:Those 30% of people don’t even know what climate change is. My perspective has gotten warped living amongst reactionaries, I read that same poll and thought that's pretty great. Only 30%! Also for reference in one of the interviews as part of the interminable US visa process the questioner asked about my prior NDP party membership, and specifically wanted to know if they were Communists or sponsored terrorism. I said no, but I did wonder whether I was about to be outed as a secret socialist.
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infernal machines posted:I can't speak to Calgary, but in Toronto they did something similar because it basically matched our existing public smoking/drinking bylaws. They treat pot as both, of course. Yeah, that's probably the same rationale behind ours. It's very, very stupid, though.
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Apr 6, 2018 14:43
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Same in Winnipeg - only place you can smoke it is at home. It's hosed up. I don't even think you can grow it here.
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Apr 6, 2018 14:43
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Hahaha and you all thought the Liberals would gently caress things up. Wrong! Our stupid municipalities will gently caress things up at the behest of a bunch of moralizing busybodies!
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Apr 6, 2018 14:46
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Dougie Hashpipe is skipping a debate organized by the Black community in Toronto After saying nobody has done more for the Black community than him. Except for Ribber. He's really going full TRUMP and bringing up his dead brother as much as possible.
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Apr 6, 2018 14:53
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lmao if you guys think pot is going to be legal by July 1st
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Apr 6, 2018 14:55
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MA-Horus posted:
And you know he's got a "But they did the same thing with Layton" in his back pocket too
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Apr 6, 2018 14:56
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Thanks to that National Post data thing I now know what the BC Advocational Party is
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Apr 6, 2018 15:04
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LOOK OUT BC TECH SECTOR WINNIPEG IS GAINING STEAM https://twitter.com/glowacky/status/982273484230291456
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Apr 6, 2018 16:20
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Oh yay Ubisoft. What this city definitely needs is a gaming company that seems to release either games everyone hates or games only mouth breathers love. Except Beyond Good & Evil that was legit a good game.
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Apr 6, 2018 16:25
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I'm sure they'll employ countless tens of people, who will all work more unpaid overtime than normal people work in a regular week, justify it 'because that's the way tech is, brah!' while voting conservative because MAH TAXES.
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Apr 6, 2018 16:28
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I'll play Devil's advocate that a lot of people don't want to smell that dank weed walking around town.
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Apr 6, 2018 16:55
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Wistful of Dollars posted:I'll play Devil's advocate that a lot of people don't want to smell that dank weed walking around town. i don't want to smell car exhaust
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Apr 6, 2018 17:05
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Wistful of Dollars posted:I'll play Devil's advocate that a lot of people don't want to smell that dank weed walking around town. Hell I’ll go further and say I wish they’d do that for cigarettes too
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Apr 6, 2018 17:05
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I know in Ontario on top of a public places ban, there's some pushing to ban it from rental units both inside and on balconies since it can still end up getting into other units. I can understand wanting to limit it from public places but it also seems absurd and unsafe to basically expect people to go to designated location to get high. Imagine if you were only allowed to drink at a bar.
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Apr 6, 2018 17:19
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MA-Horus posted:Dougie Hashpipe is skipping a debate organized by the Black community in Toronto It's actually organized by a former OLP staffer and just named the Black Community Provincial Leaders Debate.
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Apr 6, 2018 17:20
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Oxyclean posted:I know in Ontario on top of a public places ban, there's some pushing to ban it from rental units both inside and on balconies since it can still end up getting into other units. I can understand wanting to limit it from public places but it also seems absurd and unsafe to basically expect people to go to designated location to get high. Imagine if you were only allowed to drink at a bar. Oh noooooo you might smell a weeeeeeed
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Apr 6, 2018 17:21
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For a while I lived in an apartment building next to a pair of weedlords (who I think were actually dealing, considering the occasional guy knocking on the door for loving ever and the one time the cops were waiting in the stairwell for someone to approach the door) and not being able to have my windows open all summer long without smelling that poo poo kinda sucked.
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Apr 6, 2018 17:21
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Wistful of Dollars posted:I'll play Devil's advocate that a lot of people don't want to smell that dank weed walking around town. I don’t want to smell it, but I recognize that it’s not my right to be free of all annoyances in a public space. Why are people so loving fragile? Yes, it smells bad. loving deal with it; you’ll be okay if you’re briefly annoyed!
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Apr 6, 2018 17:22
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It's an intoxicant, I don't really see an issue with no allowing it to be consumed in public places. You are allowed to start chugging a beer while walking down the sidewalk why should a joint be different? If it's really that much of a burden I'm sure the laws will loosen up over the next 10 years on where/when you can consume pot.
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Apr 6, 2018 17:27
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EvilJoven posted:For a while I lived in an apartment building next to a pair of weedlords (who I think were actually dealing, considering the occasional guy knocking on the door for loving ever and the one time the cops were waiting in the stairwell for someone to approach the door) and not being able to have my windows open all summer long without smelling that poo poo kinda sucked. I can't imagine that's pleasant but it seems like a pretty big hazard to basically tell everyone wants to get high to commute to and fro, or to do stupid poo poo to try to hide the fact they're doing it. PT6A posted:I don’t want to smell it, but I recognize that it’s not my right to be free of all annoyances in a public space. Why are people so loving fragile? Yes, it smells bad. loving deal with it; you’ll be okay if you’re briefly annoyed! There's already pretty significant rules on where you can smoke cigarettes (ie not close to any building entrance) - I don't understand why smoking weed can't fall under the same restrictions.
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DariusLikewise posted:It's an intoxicant, I don't really see an issue with no allowing it to be consumed in public places. You are allowed to start chugging a beer while walking down the sidewalk why should a joint be different? If it's really that much of a burden I'm sure the laws will loosen up over the next 10 years on where/when you can consume pot. That’s a bad restriction too, and it only exists so the police can harass homeless people and addicts. If it were about solving an actual problem, it would be a violation that could only be added on to another charge like drunk and disorderly.
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Apr 6, 2018 17:31
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Smokers are petty selfish vandals and I hope widespread marijuana adoption leads to a backlash against any form of smoking in public, including tobacco. Ruin your own air.
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Apr 6, 2018 17:32
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MA-Horus posted:Dougie Hashpipe is skipping a debate organized by the Black community in Toronto How do you skip the wildest part of that statement, where he says, after being asked what specifically he'd done for black youth, said he took a bunch of black kids from Toronto to his cottage in Muskoka because they've never seen a lake. For those without a map handy, Toronto is on a lake
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Apr 6, 2018 17:35
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Nocturtle posted:Smokers are petty selfish vandals and I hope widespread marijuana adoption leads to a backlash against any form of smoking in public, including tobacco. Ruin your own air. I think the problem is when nothing is seen as "your own air." How do you feel about vaping? There's a lot of stigma around it but it seems considerably less of a problem for everyone else - but from what I understand it tends to get lumped under the same rules.
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Smokers are terrible people and the laws segregating and restricting them to the most inconvenient and annoying places is good and cool. Pot should fall under that exact same category. No smoking anything in parks, anywhere near doorways, patios, etc etc. e: Parks are for loving only.
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CLAM DOWN posted:
And dogs. But don't combine the two.
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I appreciate vapers are pumping out marginally less carcinogenic compounds, but city air is bad enough and their contribution is not welcome. Plus the idea is to make a marijuana public smoking ban cast as wide a net as possible to cover anything that might even plausibly allow the inhalation of THC, so as to effectively make all forms of smoking in public illegal. People can get a nicotine patch if they're desperate. Related I really enjoyed the smoker's whining in this article about a tobacco ban in a Montreal suburb: CBC posted:Since smoking in public places is allowed in Canada, Bonnie Feigenbaum, a former town councillor, questioned if the restriction is just.
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Apr 6, 2018 18:09
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Ima LOL if by the time pot is legalized, the federal provincial and municipal laws all culminate in only being allowed to buy it from and use it in facilities that are owned by the ruling class, at extremely high prices. I mean it'll be a sad LOL, but a LOL none the less.
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Apr 6, 2018 18:12
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PT6A posted:That’s a bad restriction too, and it only exists so the police can harass homeless people and addicts. Normal Brain: Public Drinking laws only exist so police can harass homeless people and addicts Exploding Brain: Police only exist to harass homeless people and addicts Galaxy Brain: Laws are a social construct and not a universal rule, exceptions can be made to protect the most vulnerable in society,
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flashy_mcflash posted:How do you skip the wildest part of that statement, where he says, after being asked what specifically he'd done for black youth, said he took a bunch of black kids from Toronto to his cottage in Muskoka because they've never seen a lake. My God. Toronto has truly been blessed by not one, but two perfect idiots named FORD.
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Of course Doug Ford doesn't know Toronto is on a lake. That would imply that he's actually gone into the actual city and/or ventured further south than the QEW.
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Nocturtle posted:I appreciate vapers are pumping out marginally less carcinogenic compounds, but city air is bad enough and their contribution is not welcome. Plus the idea is to make a marijuana public smoking ban cast as wide a net as possible to cover anything that might even plausibly allow the inhalation of THC, so as to effectively make all forms of smoking in public illegal. People can get a nicotine patch if they're desperate. Hot takes like these are ruining our city air.
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EvilJoven posted:Ima LOL if by the time pot is legalized, the federal provincial and municipal laws all culminate in only being allowed to buy it from and use it in facilities that are owned by the ruling class, at extremely high prices. And yes I'd be happy if people who absolutely need to smoke are forced to do so in Beer Store-like facilities that mercilessly price gouge. I'd absolutely vote for that.
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CLAM DOWN posted:Smokers are terrible people and the laws segregating and restricting them to the most inconvenient and annoying places is good and cool. Pot should fall under that exact same category. No smoking anything in parks, anywhere near doorways, patios, etc etc. It's this. It's not like there aren't alternative methods for marijuana consumption.
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Nocturtle posted:Smokers are petty selfish vandals and I hope widespread marijuana adoption leads to a backlash against any form of smoking in public, including tobacco. Ruin your own air. This makes sense to me, my dad's a smoker and while he's far more considerate (only after years of telling him to cut it out, but I digress) now than he was in the past, it's still a disgusting habit that ruins spaces around him that other people have to use. I vape a ton of weed but a)I do it in my own space where I'm not bothering anybody and b) I have no problem being told to go outside to do it in public Of course they'll probably just make a bunch of laws that they can use to harass poor people and minorities but I mean in theory this poo poo shouldn't be complex
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Tighclops posted:This makes sense to me, my dad's a smoker and while he's far more considerate (only after years of telling him to cut it out, but I digress) now than he was in the past, it's still a disgusting habit that ruins spaces around him that other people have to use. I vape a ton of weed but a)I do it in my own space where I'm not bothering anybody and b) I have no problem being told to go outside to do it in public You have no problem with being told to go outside? Well, pity that all the new bylaws forbid it outside, then! I think there’s room for reasonable restriction but this goes too far. There is no problem with smoking outside away from doors and air intakes. That’s a completely acceptable compromise.
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EvilJoven posted:Of course Doug Ford doesn't know Toronto is on a lake. That would imply that he's actually gone into the actual city and/or ventured further south than the QEW. "Only a downtown latte-sipping, bike riding elitist would notice the gigantic, unmissable body of water on the southern edge of the city"
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flashy_mcflash posted:How do you skip the wildest part of that statement, where he says, after being asked what specifically he'd done for black youth, said he took a bunch of black kids from Toronto to his cottage in Muskoka because they've never seen a lake. I mean I am not Canadian but even I know that...the lake is named for the state where the city is ffs
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DarkCrawler posted:I mean I am not Canadian but even I know that...the lake is named for the state where the city is ffs "the state" gj not-canadian
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