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Thief
Jan 28, 2011

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indefinite delays are forgivable so long as something is actually in the works imo.

coming from games like Day Z and PUBG i really couldn't care less so long as they are treating this like its their actual jobs. as it stands the combat and looting in this game is fun which is the core reason i even play it all. the economy will always be either broken or exploited and tbh its best to ignore it unless you are offloading items in bulk to free up space in your stash


Skull Knight posted:

What about the player scavs - do we still get better geared scav runs? That part was needed, IMO.

I still think it should've been no cooldown scav runs, player scavs / scavs can spawn in more frequently (five min. intervals?), and up the number of player scavs / scavs spawned in.

no cooldown would be cool but if "scav" is supposed to be short for scavenger then gearing them up totally defeats the purpose imo. i like the randomization element to them but the trade-off to playing babbymode should be that anyone using them is naturally dissuaded from engaging in PvP combat and instead is forced to scurry from rathole to rathole while trying to steal enough cheese to get by.

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Akion
May 7, 2006
Grimey Drawer
Goon Scav Gang Ambushes will always be fun, though.

hagie
Apr 6, 2004

All sensitivity has long ago atrophied
There was a post on a ETF FB group that Nikita posted in Eroctik’s channel that the update was in 2 hours.


This was over 2 hours ago.

LuciferMorningstar
Aug 12, 2012

VIDEO GAME MODIFICATION IS TOTALLY THE SAME THING AS A FEMALE'S BODY AND CLONING SAID MODIFICATION IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS RAPE, GUYS!!!!!!!

hagie posted:

There was a post on a ETF FB group that Nikita posted in Eroctik’s channel that the update was in 2 hours.


This was over 2 hours ago.

Fake news

MaxPowers
Dec 29, 2004
I have a box of buttcoins and forts from going in with a hatchet and a dream on factory. I wonder what happens if you get a group of like 5 hatchetlings. Does that mean theres only 1 spawn? Can 5 hatchetmans kill a fort before his 60 round drum destroys all of us????????????? these are the real questions to be asked. Not when is the wipe, why is everyone so rich, or even when will the net code not be terrible????????????????????

Akion
May 7, 2006
Grimey Drawer
I've always advocated for 5-man Fort+Fast+Hatchet gangs on factory.

Or a 5-man squad with noting but Grenades. Lots and lots of Grenades.

hagie
Apr 6, 2004

All sensitivity has long ago atrophied
Calling it now: the cries of people whining because they got killed by a hatchling while waiting on the bullet reload timer

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe
It's weird that there's no revolvers in Tarkov; give me a top break model 3 in 44 Russian.

jizzy sillage
Aug 13, 2006

Chiappa Rhinos are being worked on, so that's neat.

edit: https://forum.escapefromtarkov.com/topic/6710-chiappa-rhino-the-final-model-of-the-weapon/

Final model completed October 2016, lol. I guess other guns gained priority.

LuciferMorningstar
Aug 12, 2012

VIDEO GAME MODIFICATION IS TOTALLY THE SAME THING AS A FEMALE'S BODY AND CLONING SAID MODIFICATION IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS RAPE, GUYS!!!!!!!

jizzy sillage posted:

Chiappa Rhinos are being worked on, so that's neat.

edit: https://forum.escapefromtarkov.com/topic/6710-chiappa-rhino-the-final-model-of-the-weapon/

Final model completed October 2016, lol. I guess other guns gained priority.

I saw some speculation that BSG hasn't implemented a reload system for weapons that don't use magazines. People who think this say this is why we don't have some weapons we know are modeled but aren't yet in-game. I don't know if that's an even remotely compelling theory, though.

jizzy sillage
Aug 13, 2006

It actually is, a bit, in that it may take 100 coding hours to code a 'mag goes in gun, gun fires from mag, mag is reloaded' system, and another 100 hours to code a 'mag stays in gun, gun is loaded from loose rounds or clips, gun fires from internal mag' system, but then it will take another 100 coding hours to make sure that both systems work independently bug free, and another 100 hours to make sure there's no accidental overlap and they work bug free together.

It's the obvious answer as to why the standard SKS with an internal magazine and loaded from stripper clips or individual rounds is not available, or bolt action rifles with internal magazines are not available, or revolvers.

Lever actions can use the same code as pump action shotguns.

edit: oh poo poo, no they can't - pumpies in Tarkov use a bastardisation of the magazine system, which is why you have to load the tube separately from the gun when you're in your stash.

jizzy sillage fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Apr 6, 2018

LuciferMorningstar
Aug 12, 2012

VIDEO GAME MODIFICATION IS TOTALLY THE SAME THING AS A FEMALE'S BODY AND CLONING SAID MODIFICATION IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS RAPE, GUYS!!!!!!!

jizzy sillage posted:

Lever actions can use the same code as pump action shotguns.

edit: oh poo poo, no they can't - pumpies in Tarkov use a bastardisation of the magazine system, which is why you have to load the tube separately from the gun when you're in your stash.

See, I wasn't sure if they could just choose to also apply a similar system to all other non-magazine-fed weapons. For example, a revolver's cylinder would act like the pump action magazines do now. I mean, they probably could make it work that way, but kind of like you mentioned, it'd be silly for them to devote time to a workaround they plan to later make obsolete.

taels
Oct 19, 2012

K:CID:X
if that was true then what about reloading the MP133/MP153? same sort of manual reload mechanic
fakeedit: beaten

mellowjournalism
Jul 31, 2004

helllooo
lol no it is not the coding. it is the animations

Thief
Jan 28, 2011

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jizzy sillage posted:

It's the obvious answer as to why the standard SKS with an internal magazine and loaded from stripper clips or individual rounds is not available, or bolt action rifles with internal magazines are not available, or revolvers.

how long until we can load stripper clips manually by using our mousewheel or something to slide the bullets in

oh and of course an emergency abort function in case someone starts shooting which drops the half used clip onto the ground with a random chance of random bullets falling off it and rolling around.

mellowjournalism posted:

lol no it is not the coding. it is the animations

and if you don't repeatedly practice this in your spare time your character will fumble around and jam his gun within 30s of being shot at with an animation that eventually wipes the sweat off their brow after getting their gun to work again

mellowjournalism
Jul 31, 2004

helllooo
give me metro goggle-wipe button or give me death

Sokani
Jul 20, 2006



Bison

Thief posted:

how long until we can load stripper clips manually by using our mousewheel or something to slide the bullets in

Game won't be complete until Surgeon Simulator controls are fully ported.

Zipperelli.
Apr 3, 2011



Nap Ghost
I unironically expect a suture kit in the near future for "heavy bleeding" that takes like a full minute to apply.

working mom
Jul 8, 2015

Zipperelli. posted:

I unironically expect a suture kit in the near future for "heavy bleeding" that takes like a full minute to apply.

Stapleguns don't take that long but it'd be a neat idea either way

VulgarandStupid
Aug 5, 2003
I AM, AND ALWAYS WILL BE, UNFUCKABLE AND A TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT TO EVERYONE. DAE WANNA CUM PLAY WITH ME!?




Hopefully they add a quick time event for closing your wounds. Something like Operation, but the more hurt you are the worse you shake.

LuciferMorningstar
Aug 12, 2012

VIDEO GAME MODIFICATION IS TOTALLY THE SAME THING AS A FEMALE'S BODY AND CLONING SAID MODIFICATION IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS RAPE, GUYS!!!!!!!
List of gear coming with new patch was posted. Lots of stuff. Cosmetics, helmets, med and ammo cases...

Skull Knight
Aug 2, 2013

Sexy bad choices
Lipstick Apathy
Here it is:

---

Video of Some of the New Items here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edEJNCJRxxc

Dear escapers,

We are excited to present to you detailed list of equipment of patch 0.8.0.

Equipment:
Ski hat with eye slits
Cold Fear Infrared Balaklava
Ghost Balaklava
UX PRO Hat
Fleece tactical hat
Cowboy hat
RayBench Hipster Reserve Glasses
Dundukk Sport sunglasses
Round glasses
Police cap
EMERCOM Cap
BEAR Cap
USEC Cap
Shemagh
Sordin MSA Supreme PRO-X/L Active headphones
Bags:
Tactical shoulder bag 3x2
VKBO army duffel bag 4x2
SSO Attack 2 Raid Backpack 5x7
Tactical Vests:
ANA Tactical M2 Armor plated vest
Wartech Chest Rig MK3 TV-104 Tactical chest rig
Body armor:
BNTI Gzhel-K Body Armor
MF-UNTAR Body Armor
Helmets:
ZSH-1-2M helmet in plain and black cover
Armored visor for ZSH-1-2M helmet
Altyn helmet
Armored visor for Altyn helmet
SSSh-94 SPHERA-S helmet
Tarkov UN Force helmet
6B47 Helmet in a camouflage cover
Weapon modifications:
M1A Socom 16 Mount
Nightforce 34mm Mount for installation of sights with Multimount
Nightforce ATACR 7-35x56 Scope
Nightforce 34mm Mount for sights installation
B-3 twin mount
Rotor 43 5.56x45 Muzzle brake
Rotor 43 .366TKM Muzzle brake
Rotor 43 7.62x39 Muzzle brake
Rotor 43 9x19 Muzzle brake
Fab Defense GL Shock Stock
Spike tactical dynacomp 7.62x39 AK Muzzle brake
Strike industries TRAX 2 Foregrip
Strike industries Bride Rail
Strike industries keymod 6 inch Rail
Strike industries keymod 4 inch Rail
Strike industries TRAX 1 Foregrip
Glock 9x19 Moto Cut slide
B&T rail for MP5
XRSU47SU Tactical Foregrip for AKS-74U
Aluminum foregrip for MP5 (TL-99)
10-round PMAG GEN M3 10 5.56x45 NATO STANAG magazine
30-round PMAG GEN M3 30 5.56x45 NATO STANAG magazine
30-round Pmag 30 AK74 GEN M3 5.45x39 magazine for AK and compatibles
30-round SR3M.130 9x39 magazine for SR3M
10-shell SAI-02 12x76 magazine for SOK-12 and compatibles
Cases:
Ammo case
Medicine case
Weapons:
Springfield Armory M1A 7.62x51
Remington 870
APS
APB
AKS-74N
AKMSN

Capri Sun Tzu
Oct 24, 2017

by Reene

Orv posted:

Do not currently buy this game.

It has the best shooting and movement feel I have ever seen in a shooter, and when you have a good match it's like nothing else. But it is non-functional from a networking and bug perspective around half the time right now, and is not currently worth your money.

Game looks up my alley, has development progressed enough since this post (Oct 2017) to warrant trying out?

MY INEVITABLE DEBT
Apr 21, 2011
I am lonely and spend most of my time on 4Chan talking about the superiority of BBC porn.

Capri Sun Tzu posted:

Game looks up my alley, has development progressed enough since this post (Oct 2017) to warrant trying out?

having not played it since roughly then, no

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

Capri Sun Tzu posted:

Game looks up my alley, has development progressed enough since this post (Oct 2017) to warrant trying out?

Servers have their ups and downs but I feel that post was a bit over the top on the issues most people experience

Many of the goons in the tarkov discord have hundreds of hours in game, and that's after taking away the down time for bugs or laggy servers

Zipperelli.
Apr 3, 2011



Nap Ghost

Capri Sun Tzu posted:

Game looks up my alley, has development progressed enough since this post (Oct 2017) to warrant trying out?

Honestly, for the price of the standard edition, you'd more than get your money's worth with EFT. You just have to have good inventory management skills, because you get the smallest stash size. Not an issue with weapon cases and item cases though, once you can get your hands on them.

Faffel
Dec 31, 2008

A bouncy little mouse!

Rich standard edition boy in the last two wipes here. Friends bought EoD and I had no issue keeping up with them in amounts of absurd gear available. Really the lower stash size probably encouraged me to run more high end kits and get better with them

bacon flaps
Mar 1, 2005

every day im hustlin

Faffel posted:

Rich standard edition boy in the last two wipes here. Friends bought EoD and I had no issue keeping up with them in amounts of absurd gear available. Really the lower stash size probably encouraged me to run more high end kits and get better with them

This. The standard edition is perfectly fine for enjoying what makes this game fun. I am an EoD idiot child myself but plan to liquidate my stash after this next wipe and just go from scratch, saving the money for ammo/meds/magazines if necessary. Going in with little and coming out with a lot, then proceeding to lose it all again, is really fun, even if you're as bad as me.

Peepers
Mar 11, 2005

Well, I'm a ghost. I scare people. It's all very important, I assure you.


My only standard edition gripe is the container, and it's pretty tedious trying to snipe the occasional beta or gamma box that comes up on Fence.

LuciferMorningstar
Aug 12, 2012

VIDEO GAME MODIFICATION IS TOTALLY THE SAME THING AS A FEMALE'S BODY AND CLONING SAID MODIFICATION IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS RAPE, GUYS!!!!!!!
I wrote too many words about playing this game. Link here. Most of the non-opinion stuff should be reasonably accurate and I think I've appropriately identified stuff the patch may change.

aniviron
Sep 11, 2014


Mr. Peepers posted:

My only standard edition gripe is the container, and it's pretty tedious trying to snipe the occasional beta or gamma box that comes up on Fence.

Gotta agree on this count. The alpha container is pretty miserable.

bacon flaps
Mar 1, 2005

every day im hustlin

Mr. Peepers posted:

My only standard edition gripe is the container, and it's pretty tedious trying to snipe the occasional beta or gamma box that comes up on Fence.

You can just get a EoD friend to give you theirs, and then they can reset, if it really matters. (it does, gamma box owns)

hagie
Apr 6, 2004

All sensitivity has long ago atrophied
Favorite “hardcore trial” streamer comment:

“Standard stash isn’t that bad once you get weapon and item cases”

mellowjournalism
Jul 31, 2004

helllooo
This poo poo is 100% psychological. USD takes 1x1 gridspace, get over it and melt your garbage

Gammas are nice when you're learning the game but the entire thing is a non-issue when you can hop into discord and just get them thrown at you

LuciferMorningstar posted:

I wrote too many words about playing this game. Link here.

Someone put this in the OPPPPPP

Zipperelli.
Apr 3, 2011



Nap Ghost
Also, I know myself and a few other goons regularly give away our Gamma container after the wipe, then wipe again to get it back.

Also, with that being said, when the wipe hits, I'll give mine away again.

Akion
May 7, 2006
Grimey Drawer

mellowjournalism posted:

This poo poo is 100% psychological. USD takes 1x1 gridspace, get over it and melt your garbage

Gammas are nice when you're learning the game but the entire thing is a non-issue when you can hop into discord and just get them thrown at you


Someone put this in the OPPPPPP

Done.

I'm in and out of this thread so when useful stuff like this comes up or the OP becomes outdated it's best if someone PM's me.

Thief
Jan 28, 2011

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Zipperelli. posted:

Also, I know myself and a few other goons regularly give away our Gamma container after the wipe, then wipe again to get it back.

Also, with that being said, when the wipe hits, I'll give mine away again.

i used to wipe on cooldown so there are probably a lot of those things floating around the factory hatchlings

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

Klean is streaming himself going over the promo video for the patch, it seems really weird to me.

Why doesn't he just ask for a special copy of the game he can show off all the new stuff in offline mode

Instead of pausing and unpausing a YouTube video to point out the new items

Last King
Sep 29, 2007

In corporate R'lyeh, Cthulhu works you.

Fun Shoe

Blue On Blue posted:

Klean is streaming himself going over the promo video for the patch, it seems really weird to me.

Why doesn't he just ask for a special copy of the game he can show off all the new stuff in offline mode

Instead of pausing and unpausing a YouTube video to point out the new items

this is a kid who's getting more and more desperate, trying to stay e-relevant etc.

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MaxPowers
Dec 29, 2004
The lower and lower player count makes me sad. When even your friends wont play because of hackers and impending wipe :(

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