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Watching the first episode of Magical Girl Site now, and wow, this is pretty tryhard. I burst out laughing when this exchange happened: Heroine: Every day, all I think about is dying. Bystander: Isn't it a little early for this? Yes, I know it's not intended that way (the heroine's line is internal monologue and the bystander is probably talking about the train schedule), but I couldn't help but parse it as a Signal from Fred, some part of the writer's brain wondering if they were going too dark too early in the show. Even Magical Girl Raising Project had enough restraint not to have the protagonist nearly get raped in the first episode, or make literally everyone we see her interact with before becoming a magical girl be monstrously cruel to her just for kicks, or have the magical girls bleed from the eyes when they used their powers. More sample dialogue: Heroine: Please, don't hit me in the stomach. I won't be able to get my period... Older brother: Why the hell would I care what happens to your body? Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Apr 7, 2018 |
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Apr 7, 2018 01:23
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Sharkopath posted:Sounds bad.
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Apr 7, 2018 01:26
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It's kind of weird how bad Madoka clones seem like they all go turbo-violent and hosed up when Madoka itself really didn't have all that much physical violence in it. And even a good chunk of what violence it did have was framed pretty indirectly.
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Apr 7, 2018 01:38
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i don't think most of these are aiming to be madoka tbh, they're just mashing up magical girl tropes with survival/apocalypse stuff
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Apr 7, 2018 01:41
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the directors understand that ultraviolence is extremely cool
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Apr 7, 2018 01:41
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Spiritus Nox posted:It's kind of weird how bad Madoka clones seem like they all go turbo-violent and hosed up when Madoka itself really didn't have all that much physical violence in it. And even a good chunk of what violence it did have was framed pretty indirectly. Magical Girl Raising Project, at least, was clearly riffing on stuff like Dangan Ronpa (and by extension Battle Royale, etc.) as much as on Madoka. I'm not sure what Magical Girl Site's excuse is.
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Apr 7, 2018 01:42
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every edgy magical girl thing is madoka including when all the sailor scouts die in whatever part of sailor moon that is
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Apr 7, 2018 01:47
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Silver2195 posted:Watching the first episode of Magical Girl Site now, and wow, this is pretty tryhard. I burst out laughing when this exchange happened: This sounds loving dire.
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Apr 7, 2018 01:48
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Nanoha and Symphogear are probably the most successful late night Magical Girl series besides Madoka and they aren't dark but nobody seems to want to chase those series
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eh, both those series have shades of it at least, though with symphogear it's mostly the start of S1.
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Apr 7, 2018 01:55
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DisDisDis posted:every edgy magical girl thing is madoka including when all the sailor scouts die in whatever part of sailor moon that is when's the hanging piss part of SM
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Apr 7, 2018 01:56
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Motto posted:eh, both those series have shades of it at least, though with symphogear it's mostly the start of S1. ...Doesn't Nanoha predate Madoka by quite a bit?
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Apr 7, 2018 01:58
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Motto posted:when's the hanging piss part of SM I'll never watch it so I'll never know
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Spiritus Nox posted:...Doesn't Nanoha predate Madoka by quite a bit? Yeah it's early 00s but I meant having dark/edgy bits. It starts with abusive mom and the most recent one has "child brutalizes other gradeschoolers" as a scene.
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Apr 7, 2018 02:02
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DisDisDis posted:I'll never watch it so I'll never know Classic dis
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Apr 7, 2018 02:02
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It's very rare for violent media to acknowledge that people pisss and poo poo themselves when they die so I applaud whatever show you're referencing there
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Apr 7, 2018 02:05
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DisDisDis posted:It's very rare for violent media to acknowledge that people pisss and poo poo themselves when they die so I applaud whatever show you're referencing there It's Magical Girl Raising Project. Edit: I just learned that Magical Girl Site is actually a spinoff of Magical Girl Apocalypse/Magical Girl of the End - that series that used to get posted a lot in the convince-to-read-a-manga-with-one-image thread. Huh. Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 02:17 on Apr 7, 2018 |
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Apr 7, 2018 02:06
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Motto posted:Yeah it's early 00s but I meant having dark/edgy bits. It starts with abusive mom and the most recent one has "child brutalizes other gradeschoolers" as a scene. Tbf symphogear sorta had the same abusive mom angle with Chris and Fine, though not as extreme I guess.
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I don't know if it was commerically successful but Witchblade was a pretty good at 'edgy' Magical Girl. Symphogear is pretty dark at the beginning of S1, but not grim. I think the first episode of Symphogear is really effective writing. It's way, way darker than the rest of the series, but that darkness has a real point. It establishes real, personal stakes for each of the main characters and outlines their relationships right off the bat. The traumas that Hibiki, Tsubasa, and Chris have suffered deeply inform their characters. You only need a little glimpse to understand, and the show (mostly) doesn't linger on the traumas themselves, but how the characters respond to and move past them. It's a very silly show where things happen just because they're cool, often, but it's never pointlessly cruel for the sake of visual impact, and I really appreciate that. TLDR: surprise, surprise, I really like Symphogear.
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It annoys me a lot that in the new LoGH they constantly refer to the space navy and fleets as the army and armies. The original didn't do that, did it? How can you get that wrong???
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Yeah that's the difference between Nanoha/Symphogear and Site/Raising Project. They have dark moments but they are there for the cast to overcome and grow much like in Sailor Moon or Precure. Site and Raising Project use dark moments to dunk on the cast constantly
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I couldn't make it through a whole episode of GBF or magical girl ore so that's everything I was interested in this season down. I heard there was a space opera show with tons of male nudity this season which sounds like my thing but I hated the original LOGH so much I doubt I can get into the new one even if it's horny.
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Apr 7, 2018 02:24
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Watch the show about men punching each other
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DisDisDis posted:I couldn't make it through a whole episode of GBF or magical girl ore so that's everything I was interested in this season down. it was space battleship tiramisu, which has poo poo production values and the jokes are awful, but yeah there's several minute of full male nudity
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Motto posted:Watch the show about men punching each other It looks like a very well made thing that doesn't interest me at all. Maybe if I was still trying to box, but well
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Apr 7, 2018 03:03
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Any of the recent batch of anime on Netflix worth watching? Except devilman, saw it.
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the only series that has really tried to ape madoka/ riff on the dark magical girl poo poo effectively was yuuki yuna which had the novel idea of balancing the trauma with manga time kirara style boring moe garbage which made it really powerful. haven't watched the new series yet tho
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DisDisDis posted:It's very rare for violent media to acknowledge that people pisss and poo poo themselves when they die so I applaud whatever show you're referencing there Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron Blooded Orphans? (I understand that is not what is being referenced, but it did have a scene with that. Iron Blooded Orphans is a good show where very horrible things happen all the time. Also, where most of the cast has limited access to shirts.)
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DisDisDis posted:It looks like a very well made thing that doesn't interest me at all. Maybe if I was still trying to box, but well Now that I know Dis is weak and has not the heart of a fighter I can bully relentlessly.
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Rinkles posted:Any of the recent batch of anime on Netflix worth watching? Except devilman, saw it. B: The Beginning, and there's been plenty of praise for AICO but it kinda bored me deffo skip Sword Gai
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ive stood around some street brawls but i was really afraid of getting beatu p so i mostly didnt hit anybody
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dogsicle posted:B: The Beginning, and there's been plenty of praise for AICO but it kinda bored me sword gay, lmfao
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DisDisDis posted:ive stood around some street brawls but i was really afraid of getting beatu p so i mostly didnt hit anybody I'm gonna pick you up and carry you around and all you'll be able to do is wiggle impotently.
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dogsicle posted:B: The Beginning, and there's been plenty of praise for AICO but it kinda bored me I attempted to get through the first episode of AICO twice, tried both dubs, but it proved challenging some good animation, though
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i'm gonna overcome the tyrrany of combat sports people by inventing the firearm
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Homura and Sickle posted:the only series that has really tried to ape madoka/ riff on the dark magical girl poo poo effectively was yuuki yuna which had the novel idea of balancing the trauma with manga time kirara style boring moe garbage which made it really powerful. haven't watched the new series yet tho Yeah, you can't just have all suffering all the time or it just feels pointless, and well-made shows understand that need for balance and provide it in one way or another. Like, no matter what happens to her, Madoka's parents remain fundamentally good people who want what's best for her throughout the series, and that's important.
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Homura and Sickle posted:the only series that has really tried to ape madoka/ riff on the dark magical girl poo poo effectively was yuuki yuna which had the novel idea of balancing the trauma with manga time kirara style boring moe garbage which made it really powerful. haven't watched the new series yet tho Second series doubles down on suffering and Nationalism and really is worse because of it
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AICO had one of those dubs that I found really funny because of how bad it was. It felt like something from the 90s with it, and that was a little bit of a novelty. Couldn't finish it once I reached halfway though. So far I've seen Lupin, Gegege no Kitaro, LoGH, and Megalo Box and they're all pretty fun for their own reasons, except LoGH. I enjoyed it, but it felt lacking in comparison to the original. Looks to be a fun season so far and I'm hoping Crunchyroll get around to releasing Hinamatsuri soon.
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